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  1. Heywood123

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    its clear that the American government has lost its ability to function even on a basic level. I myself am neither a rebublican or a democrat. The two parties bickering has basically gridlocked the country. The most ironic part is they both want basically the same thing. So as a spectator I put forth the question. Can the social change that the country so desperately needs ever be achieved?

    You all know what I mean when I say social change. im talking about a country that doesnt persecute its own citizens. A country where an honest person can survive and provide for thier family without breaking thier backs. A country that doesnt lie and cheat. A country that puts the well being of each and every citizen first.

    Its clear that we as a country will either rise or demise. The way I see it is a change is coming one way or another You can feel, it like it or not. So is the country going to burn down and rise like a pheonix from the ashes. Or will the country unite and join twentyfirst century?
     
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  2. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    As older folks die off and the brain washed younger ones become a majority we will move to the left---

    40 years from now those same people will wonder what the hell they did....
     
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    to be direct. its not going to happen. history provex that. the current situation proves that. you just have to find your own way in the mess
    like everyone now and before us.
     
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  4. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    Here are the people that want control of the new left....



    How can ANTIFA be that stupid? Waving around a Communist flag. Then get stomped by Texas Police...lol
    Seriously these kids are straight up retarded. They must be the dumbest motherfuckers ever to be brainwashed like this. They are literally waving around a communist flag at a protest. Have they ever read a history book?

    Have they ever seen what happens to people in a Communist Country that protest??? Maybe not, they don't usually allow cameras in communist country's. Who the fuck fights to have a type of government that allows no freedom, dictates what job you will have, kills or imprisons you if you protest, and complete restricts freedom of information. What they fuck are they going to do if they actually got Communism and get trigged by not having any freedoms.....lol
     
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      Have they never heard of “Don’t mess with Texas “? :hilarious:
       
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  5. msman

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    As the younger people mature and have to make their own living their thoughts and beliefs will change.
     
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  6. msman

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    A country has to persecute some of it's citizens to remain a free country with laws. Right now a honest person can make a living and provide for their family if they get the education needed and are willing to do the work. The more education and willingness to work a person is the easier the job will be. Those who do not prepare for their future will not have a great one.
    Our country does not lie and cheat. The life long politicians we keep electing do the lying and cheating. If we elect honest people that will actually work for the people we will not have as many problems with them lying and cheating the people.
    The well being of each and every citizen is another thing that the life long politicians do not give a damn about.

    The people in the U.S. have let politicians brain wash them into believing a certain political party is the answer to every question. The only thing any political party has done in many years is exactly the same as the other political party then blame everything on the other party. The people should learn any political party is not going to make the U.S. better. They are too busy making themselves better off at the expense of the citizens.

    As long as people think there is a difference in any political party we will continue the slide downwards. When people start electing politicians for what they have done, how honest they are, and how much they care about the citizens we will see a change for the good.
    That is not likely to happen as people think a D or an R in front of a name really means something.
     
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  7. Heywood123

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    I've had to make my own living for many many years and my thoughts and beliefs have only strengthened. So I don't know about that. Oh and I haven't matured either in fact I acted a lot more grown up when I was a teenager.
     
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    2. msman
      One thing we do not know if we agree on is what you consider a success and what I consider a success.
      School is supposed to confuse you. It is supposed to make you think. The more you can think the better you will be able to adapt.
       
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      Success is staying above ground. Adaptability requires knowledge. Confusion is a lack there of. If your still confused and your thoughts and ideas haven't formed than maybe you should go back to school. If at first you don't succeed try and try agian.
       
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      Success is more than staying above the ground. Any animal can stay above the ground for some time. Living is not being a success.
      How are you going to get the knowledge to adapt if you do not get an education?
      "Confusion is a lack there of." is not a complete sentence which you would have know if you would have stayed in school.
      If your thoughts and ideas have completely formed by the time you got out of kindergarten there was no need for you to go any farther in school. It wouldn't have helped. A person needs an open mind to learn. There are too many who think they already know all of the answers when they do not even know what the questions are.
       
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      Well then please enlighten me. What is success? And by the way I did stay in school.
      grammar and spelling aren't my strong points.
       
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      My opinion of success is for a member of a family to be in better shape financially than their parents, provide a living for their family, and raise a family that will be in better shape that they were. Also raising a family that is proud of their country and willing to fight for their country. Raise a family that obeys the laws and cares for their fellow man.
      It isn't necessary to always use the correct grammar or spell every word correctly. It has more to do with what is inside a person.
       
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  8. Heywood123

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    I don't get what the masks are all about
     
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      I dont get what they are trying to do at all....

      masks just make them look like thugs to me...
       
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  9. Distant Lover

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    There is not such thing as brain washing. Even during the Korean War, when the term was coined, it did not happen. What does happen is that people you disagree with present more compelling political messages than you do.

    When young people think of socialism they do not think of tanks and missiles on parade in Moscow. They think of Scandinavia and how well things work over there.
     
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      People think of what ever it takes to cover up the bullshit other people can easily see.
       
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  10. Milik_the_Red

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    Whether the right or left wins the future will depend on which one sheds their blinders of idiology and presents the people with a real plan the masses can accept.

    The right will have to shed its mean-spirited sense of detachment. Expecting everyone to be completely self sufficient sounds wonderful- if you happen to have the chance - but far too many simply don’t. In the future, automaton and our overall lack of dynamic economic growth will cause even greater need for social services. The right will have to stop acting as if the poor don’t exist or they will be slaugherd by them at the ballot box.

    The left will have to stop treating any American who doesn’t buy their program like they were stupid. The elitism Hillary displayed is killing the left in middle America and making it impossible for their message to be heard. They will need to do more than offer pennies to the poor. They will need to find ways to pay for their programs if they want them to be accepted. They can’t win by offering a free lunch when the people are so very aware that it isn’t free at all. No, they need more than big ideas. They need a real plan to make them work.

    Both sides are intent on controlling society in their own way and this keeps driving a wedge into their perspective voting blocks. Whether it is forcing social change down the throats of the people without care for what they think, or trying to force a religious agenda on those same voters, both will ultimately fail. The side that wins will adopt a Libertarian ideal and respect each individuals rights without coercion or insult. They will let discussion and reason determine each issue and stop trying to legislate it without the support of the people

    The side that first realizes this is the side that will carry the future...
     
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  11. RetiredOF

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    America has always had social change. Fifty years ago black kids went to their schools and whites went to theirs. Most businesses were white customers only. Baseball had only started to let black players compete. Voting was intimidation and often murder. KKK ruled the South. Northern states were little better. Yes we have a long ways to go but we have come far.
     
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    Started with John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. Not likely to change.
     
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  13. slutwolf

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    I don't see any likelihood of change any time soon.
    To much disunity ,
    to much bickering over nonsense and bullshit ,
    no matter who's in power , more than half the country always is unhappy and complaining ,
    and to many politicians looking after their own best interests more than the country's.

    Like all major powers , their time passes , and if they don't wake up and smell the flowers soon enough , it's past before they know they've lost it.

    America hasn't woken up to the facts of the 21st century , and that the ways of the 20th don't cut the mustard any more.

    You only have power for as long as you hold respect ,
    and realise the situation of the day and adapt to it.
    America shows no sign of that ,
    domestically or internationally.

    At the moment it seems your heading towards more isolationism , while still trying belligerence , and neither will produce happy outcomes.

    Just my opinion ,
    and history's lessons.
     
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      That sounds like a problem with the left. Right leaning, moderates, and independent people don't have that problem and always talk about policy. Libertarians too, but they're still a bit unhinged and not serious. Fucking John McAfee lmao!!
       
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  14. ace's n 8's

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    Interesting....Has this country's government has not lost its ablity to govern.

    Not at all, actually this is how it's supposed to govern, elected representatives of the people are put in place to do the peoples work.

    Furthermore, why does this country require social change? Social change is not required, in order to achieve your ''social change'', our entiore form of government will be required to be alterd from what it was intially set up....''promoting individualism''...''rule of law''

    Ok....persecute?..

    Who is being 'persecuted'?, I say no one, why do I say that?, to be persecuted, that person first needs to feel that he/she is a victim of society, in all honesty, they are only a victim if they so choose to be a victim, leading back to the ''promoting individualism'' phrase that I used previously.

    In this country, an honest person can do all that you want....''survive and provide for thier family without breaking thier backs''....just as soon as they realize, that they live in a free country that provides them an opportunity to ''survive and provide for thier family without breaking thier backs'', with hard work, as they are capable of reaping the fruits of their labor.

    People lie...people cheat, that will never stop....as for a country putting their citizens first, well, this country was created for that very reason, that's why this country provided it's people with ''individual rights''.

    ''Snow flakes''....be damned.
     
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  15. MarsLovesVenus

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    There already was social change in America. As it was happening, people said, "Fuck these fucking little crybaby bitch made snowflake ass motherfuckers fucking up everything fun about being an adult and making Ivy League universities look like a fucking daycare facility for pansy ass whiny bitch ass kids" and voted against the Democrats in 2010 and topped it off by voting for Trump in 2016.

    So much for "tolerance" and "acceptance" being preached by hypocrites LOL!!!!
     
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    Haywood and Racer...a fucking men brothas.......time will tell and im guessing (believe it or not) its going to get worse before better. The lies and he said/she said between the parties is out of control.......BOTH parties are at fault of course-

    But the thing that confuses me is Pumpkin and his staff never seem to be on the same page, off the cuff remarks being put out by Huckabee on a daily basis-i mean He is causing all this himself with the Tweets and his venting sessions (campaign rallys..fucking really?! Give that $ spent to the poor, veterans, soup kitchens, WHATEVER just stop with the Jekyl and Hyde bullshit-).
     
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  17. CS natureboy

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    Barack Obama created the biggest political and social divide in US history... This is the social change the left wanted....

    So be careful what you wish for, you just might get it....

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  18. Distant Lover

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    Barack Obama wanted to govern as a post racial president. He lost that chance when he said, "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin."

    Whenever there was a racial conflict, which is to say whenever a black criminal like Trayvon Martin was killed by a white man, President Obama took the side of the black criminal.

    When blacks feel confident they riot. They rioted during the administration of Lyndon Johnson. They stopped rioting when Richard Nixon was inaugurated. They rioted during the administration of Barack Obama. They stopped when Donald Trump was inaugurated.
     
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  19. Distant Lover

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    During the civil rights movement integrationists confidently predicted that when blacks were no longer discriminated against they would begin to behave and perform as well as whites. In other words, they would stop committing all those crimes and having all those illegitimate children for whites to support on welfare.

    What happened instead is that white behavior became as bad as black behavior. Black behavior became worse. What did not change was black academic performance. It is still inferior to that of whites and Orientals.
     
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