UN Investigator: Israel Performing Ethnic Cleansing

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/03/un-investigator-accuses-israel-of-ethnic-cleansing/

 

Israeli Attacks Kill Eight I Gaza

Victims include children and armed fighters, as raids continue in the Gaza Strip

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/2011322162920193682.html

 

Blast At Main Jerusalem Bus Station

CNN is reporting there's been some kind of blast or explosion at a main bus station in Jerusalem. There are no reports of deaths. And no determination of what kind of explosion it was. But of course terrorist attack would be the most likely cause. An expert on CNN says it was not a sucide bomber but some other kind of explosive device.

I'll be looking for further reports but this is breaking news on CNN now.

PS Here's the story from Al Jazeera.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/201132313166975300.html

 

So how's those direct peace talks going you might be wondering?

Thought it might be worth updating this one since Israel is being accused of conducting an air Strike in Port Sudan ........


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/04/20114713475225620.html

............ and it appears Israel and the Palestinians are ready to go to war again along the Gaza Border.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/04/20114613459633638.html

 

these terrorist palastiniens keep bombing us

 

On the other hand did anyone catch any of Israeli President Shimon Peres when he was visiting in the US this week.

I have to admit I was very impressed with I did see of him as someone intelligent, objective, realistic, with a reassuring sense of dry ironic humor.

Peres seemed to be the exact opposite of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. I really can't understand why Peres is not the leader who gets listened to.

 

I think it must be the other way around if its Hamas requesting a cease fire.

Hamas has requested a cease fire, Israel officials say

A security source says Israel is ready to escalate air strikes on Gaza if the barrage of rocket fire continues, although they are willing to wait and see if a Hamas ceasefire holds.



http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...ed-a-cease-fire-israel-officials-say-1.354971

And now here's something you don't hear everyday. In fact I've never heard it before and its supposed to be one of the biggest stumbling blocks to reaching a peaceful resolution.

WikiLeaks: Some Jewish Settlers Ready To Move For Money

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/wikileaks-some-jewish-set_n_846877.html

 

Al Jazeera is reporting that the Middle East uprisings, that have come to be called, the "Arab Spring" has reached the Palestinians in the occupied territories, when mass protests erupted on the 63rd Anniversary of Nakba (the creation of Israel).

Now, considering how many Palestinians have been killed in the past few weeks during clashes with the Israeli military I think it would be pretty hard to tell one protest from another In Palestine. But according to Al Jazeera the remarkable thing about these protests is they are being organized by Palestinian Youth's engaging in a relatively new form (at least for the Palestinians) of non-violent protests.

Here's a couple paragraphs that really caught my attention:

That is incredibly significant to me at least because it basically says the new youth movement is breaking away from both the Palestinian Authority, and Palestinian terrorists and starting their own non-violent movement. That would put Israel at a distinct and glaring disadvantage because Israel has always been able to hide their own terrorism, murder, and war crimes, behind the statements that they were simply meeting violence with violence.


But if the Palestinians renounce violence and terrorism (two key Israeli demands) and Israel continues to kill them I believe the world will be able to see who the real aggressor is and demand changes, including an independent state for the Palestinians.


http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/05/201151611522564602.html


In the meantime, however, the actual workings and actions between Israel and the Palestinians remain as contradictory and complex as ever because while the Israeli military and Palestinians are clashing in the streets and check-points the government of Israel is reversing a block they put on Palestinian funds and handing over $86 million in taxes.


Israel placed the block on the funds transfer after the all the different Palestinian groups signed a unity agreement which Israel said could result in the some of the money finding its way to Hamas.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/05/201151610649153885.html



None of this makes sense to me and I would think is actually a political payoff for the Palestinians killed yesterday by the Israeli Military but it does appear to me the protests yesterday has switched Israel from offense to defense. And it would be fascinating to me to see how Israel would deal with a non-violent protest movement on the part of the Palestinians.

 

i don't think so this would happen.. coz the people making money from this conflicts won't allow to do this..its that simple.. keep fighting guys and make a fool out of yourselves lol.. forget everything what you believe and believe what the ones says which is for their benefit..

 

Ugh

Sadly I agree with your obama loving ass.

Israel has no right to exist, other then us backing them up. They are a very disturbing people who think they have the right to things. I once heard a jewish man tell me "No, see, Israel is where we put our foot down" I wanted to tell him "you mean Israel is where America allows you to exist? If it wasn't for us your people would be decimated" but he is a nice guy I didn't want to hurt his feelings.

One day something horrible will happen there, it will spark up some controversy.

 

It already has, christianity and judaism.

 

Stumbler - I'd like to address the last paragraph in your last post:

Israel will, I fear, "...deal with a non-violent protest movement on the part of the Palestinians." in exactly the same way as they have always done: meeting peaceful resistance with violent exchange.

The world's media appear, by and large, to omit reporting on the deaths of Palestinians during peaceful protests.

Unfortunately, I can't see the "Arab Spring" being dealt with any different than any other protest in Palestine/Israel.

Even the BBC are jumping on the bandwagon. BBC radio 1 extra removed the words 'FREE PALESTINE' from Mic Righteous' 'Fire in the booth' song, which was replayed on April 30th.

Since when did 'Palestine' become a dirty word in what was previously regarded as one of the finest reporting institutions in the world?

Story here

Recording here

 

While I certainly agree and have stated many times that it was State of Israel that resorted to terrorism, murder, and war crimes to drive the Palestinians out, and have continued to do so ever since one reason they can get away with it is because some fool is always firing a rocket at them.

Take that away and you take away their only excuse.

And I would not underestimate this so called Arab Spring movement and what it might do to Israel and the Palestinians. Its basically the same age group driving the uprisings and I've never seen anything create more changes in the Middle East in a shorter period of time.

It does seem to be contagious and is directly or indirectly effecting every country in the Middle East. And I can understand why young Palestinians think they have more to lose than anyone else by allowing the same entrenched positions and people to dictate a stalemate.

Now, admittedly, I'll probably prove myself wrong on that point but its something I think is worth pondering and watching.

 

It doesn't appear Palestinian Protesters were treated much better by the Egyptian security forces and I'm actually really surprised about that. I'd have thought the "new" government would be a little more tolerant of protests.

Security forces fire on Cairo 'Nakba' rally

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/05/20115165445325517.html

 

What if the Israelis fire some of the rockets themselves? Just food for thought. I'm not making any allegations.

Though it would be insane, unthinkable and utterly disgusting, would it be impossible?

If you missed it the first time: I'm not making any allegations, just a thought!
I like the idea of cutting aid to both and letting them sort it out themselves. Makes sense.

 

Far from impossible I'm confident Israel has staged several false terrorist attacks and false reports to justify dropping cluster bombs on civilians. So a false rocket or mortar would be no trick at all for Israel.

 

President Obama and Binyamin Netanyahu Meet Today

I'll be watching the news channels all day to SEE how this meeting turns out. And what I mean by "see" is that since we can never believe what they say the only truth we might get is in their body language and any visible tension between Obama and Netanyahu.

But at least in my experience I've never seen a President of the US take on Israel the way President Obama did yesterday by not only endorsing an independent Palestinian State but also defining it by the 1967 borders.

That's fucking huge because Israel has grabbed a lot of land since 1967 and prospered greatly from their occupied territories and giving them up is something vehemently opposed by many in Netanyahu's party. So I'm betting Netanyahu is pissed and might even suspect the timing was partially pay back for some of the perceived slights Israel has given the US since Obama became president.

Of course, that all depends on if President Obama can walk the walk instead of just talk the talk, and that's a big IF because Israel has a great many very wealthy and influential friends in the US. In fact standing up to Israel or just failing to support them has been political suicide in the past.

But I notice a very strange quiet spreading over the land that makes me think President Obama has successfully called Netanyahu's and Israel's bluff. And that's the relative silence coming out of congress and especially the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers.

It used to be that if someone criticized Israel the Israeli lobby would have 1,000 lobbyists on the streets of Washington DC within 48 hours, and we would have news conferences called by a few dozen Senators and Congressmen praising and supporting Israel within days.

This could be seen as the biggest affront and threat to the wishes of Israel ever perpetuated by a US President and yet its the sounds of silence that are the loudest.

 

If the Arabs had accepted the UN Partition of 1947 the area would be at peace. The Arabs kept trying to destroy Israel. They kept paying the price for their aggression.

The Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and the Sinai Peninsula were the legitimate spoils of a just war. Immediately after the Six Day War the non Christian Arabs should have been expelled, and the conquered land should have been formally annexed. Egypt should have been told that the next time they start a war with Israel they would lose control of the Suez Canal

Few people in the United States would have cared. We were too busy celebrating the splendid Israeli victory. :excited:

 

Just a minor clarification. It ain't 1947 anymore.

 

I haven't see or heard anything new in the stalled Israel/Palestine peace negotiations but on the other hand I also haven't heard about tens of thousands of protesters taking to the streets in Israel either.

Especially when it doesn't have anything to do with the peace negotiations or any other conflict.

This looks more like the Arab Spring kinds of protest where crowds estimated at near or above 100,000 are protesting for social justice; in Israel.

Tens of thousands protest cost of living in Israel

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/31/tens-of-thousands-protest-cost-of-living-in-israel/