.......and January 5th.......



Thinskin

 

Reconnaissance tours inc.



Thinskin

 

Not even close to proving any kind of fraud. You try and introduce this in court as evidence and let's see what happens!

 

Love how the "committee" keeps beating that idea that deplorable representatives, in a conspiracy with President Trump, gave "secret" tours to conspirators of the capital only one day before January 6th.
They can't explain why one would need a tour of the capital if the plan was insurrection.
They don't explain why a tour, given knowing every inch of the capital is under 24/7 surveillance, was necessary when a quick google search comes up with the actual blue prints of the capital and every other building of import. Including stairwells. And pictures.


They won't explain why they refuse to release all of the surveillance video for the capital, preferring instead to keep it secret. For now, you know.
They won't explain why, if this was an insurrection, there was no plan for anything beyond stealing Nancy Antoinettes beer out of her office refrigerator.

Shooter knows why. Cause they got nothing else. The FBI/DOJ already have arrested and indicted almost everyone involved in January 6, and they have no evidence ....... zero ........... zip ............ nada ............. of a conspiracy involving the Trump administration. But they know mid terms approach and between Biden/Harris, the economy, the border, foreign relations, the debt and their failure to accomplish a single significant goal of the biden bunch, midterms could well signal the end of the despicable party as it is currently structured.

Nancy, if she'd been smart about it, would have taken the retirement she said she was going to and not run again. Cause Shooter suspects that when the deplorables take Congress, robbers still standing, like Pelosi, will be investigated, indicted, and convicted.

 

IF the dems win? will there be a insurrection? Biden and his follows have to be kicked out!

 

@pauldz
Do you really expect the despicables to retain majorities in the house and senate?
Wishful thinking, or is the fix in?

 

Turns out, despicables are optimists
who knew?

 

worse inflation in 40 years, so much damage in so little time, lol.

 

All the deplorables running for office only need to ask;
"are you better off today than you were 2 years ago?"
Worked for Reagan when he beat Carter, eh?

 

This is something that is becoming more obvious all the time. Everyone around Trump was telling him what he was doing was wrong and illegal. Yet not one of them had the courage to tell that to the American people. Treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans could have avoided the deadly insurrection and attempted coup right after the election if they had stepped forward and told the American people there was no election fraud and President Biden was duly elected.

But instead they just cowered in silence while Trump ran his seven point plan to ill tally overthrow the election and make himself dictator for life. Making all of them accessories to treason.

Pence could have prevented Jan. 6, but his presidential ambitions got in the way: Lawrence O’Donnell

Bob Brigham
June 16, 2022



Mike Pence, photo by Gage Skidmore.


MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell harshly criticized Mike Pence for waiting so long to publicly announce he would not go along with Donald Trump's attempted coup.

O'Donnell discussed his perspective with Rachel Maddow during the handoff between their shows

"Good evening, Rachel," O'Donnell said. "We're gonna have Rep Adam Schiff (D-CA) joining us."

"He's a member of the committee and based on what you are saying a few minutes ago, I'm gonna ask him, if their investigation, talking to the Pence staff, did anyone explain to the committee why the day before Jan. 6, when Donald Trump put out a statement saying Mike Pence and I completely agree that Mike Pence has the authority to reject electors, why didn't Mike Pence immediately put out a statement saying, no this is my position?"

"Why did he wait until the next day, when the attack on the Capitol was already underway? O'Donnell wondered.

"Yes," Maddow replied. "I mean, he could've said 'I want everyone in America, including those who are coming to Washington tomorrow to support me and the president, I want everybody to be under no illusions. I do not have the power to throw out the election results, nor does any individual American as our forefathers said. and we look forward to seeing you tomorrow, and MAGA forever, but I'm not gonna do that."

O'Donnell suspects Pence did not issue such a statement due to his 2024 presidential campaign aspirations.

"On Dec. 19, Donald Trump summoned his troops to Washington for a rally on Jan. 6. That would have been a very good day for the vice president of the United States to announce that nothing can change the Electoral College count on Jan. 6," he explained. "Could've made that announcement on the day Donald Trump made the announcement that it will be a rally on Jan. 6, but Mike Pence decided not to tell Donald Trump, and Trump voters the truth, because Mike Pence was still clinging to the dream that someday, those Trump voters would be voting for Mike Pence for president."

"And so, he didn't want to be the bearer of bad news to see future voters," O'Donnell concluded.

Watch below or at this link.



https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-jan-6-2657522738/

 

Clinton was not convicted, as part of his plea deal, no charges were ever filed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imp...11, Clinton was impeached by,article, 221–212)

And don't whine about Wikipedia, prove me wrong with facts, not opinions.

 

So, clinton agrees to give up his law license and pay a $90,000 fine to end the investigation that was going to get him convicted of perjury and obstruction.

You raise a distinction without a difference.

And your comment is uncalled for. Shooter has used wikipedia before and if memory serves you bitched about it.

No matter. Bills "I did not have sex with that woman" was lie enough for America, don't you agree?

 

Didn't that get donated to the Smithsonian?
Part of the "clinton blue period" collection?

 

yeah bill got the blues after that, lol.

 

Capitol Police Chief Debunks Key Accusation that Democrats Made Against Republicans Regarding Jan. 6

The Capitol Police debunked a serious accusation that Democrats have lodged against House Republicans.

Democrats have repeatedly claimed that Republican lawmakers led “reconnaissance” tours through the United States Capitol Complex the day before the incident on Jan. 6, 2021. Republicans, however, deny that such tours took place.

The House committee investigating Jan. 6 has not released any evidence corroborating the shocking accusations.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), a target of the accusation, has admitted to providing a tour to constituents the day before Jan. 6. However, Loudermilk said last month the group never entered the Capitol itself, but toured parts of the office complex instead.

Capitol Police Chief J. Thomas Manger wrote a letter on Monday confirming there is no evidence that Loudermilk gave a “reconnaissance” tour.

According to Manger, video surveillance showed that Loudermilk hosted a group of 12 people, which eventually grew to 15 people, at the Rayburn House Office Building on Jan. 5. The group also traveled in the basements under the Capitol complex, traversing areas under the Cannon House Office Building and Longworth House Office Building.

“There is no evidence that Representative Loudermilk entered the U.S. Capitol with this group on January 5, 2021,” Manger declared. “We train our officers on being alert for people conducting surveillance or reconnaissance, and we do not consider any of the activities we observed as suspicious.

“At no time did the group appear in any tunnels that would have led them to the U.S. Capitol,” he explained. “In addition, the tunnels leading to the U.S. Capitol were posted with USCP officers and admittance to the U.S. Capitol without a Member of Congress was not permitted on January 5, 2021.”



The House Jan. 6 committee pushed back against Manger’s statement, releasing video footage on Wednesday of the group in the tunnels under the Capitol complex.

The video, however, does not show any person from the tour enter the U.S. Capitol. Still, the committee, writing in a letter Wednesday, implicitly suggested the group was guilty of wrongdoing because “individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists, including hallways, staircases, and security checkpoints.”

The committee also claimed one member of the tour was present for the Jan. 6 incident, but they have not provided evidence that man entered the Capitol.

Loudermilk responded to the letter and new video by accusing the House committee of dragging out already-debunked accusations.

The Capitol Police already put this false accusation to bed, yet the Committee is undermining the Capitol Police and doubling down on their smear campaign, releasing so-called evidence of a tour of the House Office Buildings, which I have already publicly addressed,” Loudermilk said, CNN reported.

“As Capitol Police confirmed, nothing about this visit with constituents was suspicious. The pictures show children holding bags from the House gift shop, which was open to visitors, and taking pictures of the Rayburn train,” he explained. “This false narrative that the Committee and Democrats continue to push, that Republicans, including myself, led reconnaissance tours is verifiably false. No where that I went with the visitors in the House Office Buildings on January 5th were breached on January 6th; and, to my knowledge, no one in that group was criminally charged in relation to January 6th.”

 

Tell us again, how the Nancy Antoinette star chamber isn't a political circus.....
January 6 committee releases footage of alleged reconnaissance tour - Washington Times
The House Jan. 6 Committee on Wednesday released surveillance footage of the man taking photographs of “hallways, tunnels, and staircases within the Capitol complex,” as part of what they say was a tour of the Capitol complex hosted by Rep. Barry Loudermilk on Jan. 5, 2021.

The video, which the committee posted on YouTube, also includes footage of a man they said was part of the tour among the mob outside of the Capitol during the riot the following day.

The committee says the man was part of an alleged reconnaissance tour of approximately ten individuals they say were led by Mr. Loudermilk, Georgia Republican.

“That group stayed for several hours, despite the complex being closed to the public on that day,” Committee Chairman Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi Democrat, said in a statement accompanying the release of the video.

“Individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists, including hallways, staircases, and security checkpoints,” he said.

Capitol Police say 'there is no evidence' of reconnaissance tour by GOP lawmaker before January 6 - CNNPolitics
(CNN)US Capitol Police have concluded after reviewing security footage that "there is no evidence" GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk led a reconnaissance tour with Trump supporters trying to learn more about the Capitol complex the day before the deadly January 6 insurrection.

The House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, raised the issue publicly in a letter last month asking Loudermilk to explain the purpose of his January 5 meeting with a group of constituents. Days after the attack, some Democrats began accusing Republicans of providing tours to individuals who later went on to storm the Capitol.
"There is no evidence that Representative Loudermilk entered the U.S. Capitol with this group on January 5, 2021," Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger wrote in a letter on Monday to Rep. Rodney Davis, the top Republican on the House Administration Committee. "We train our officers on being alert for people conducting surveillance or reconnaissance, and we do not consider any of the activities we observed as suspicious."
The Capitol Police review was done at the urging of Davis. The police review of security video from January 5, 2021, comes after the House select committee raised concerns about Loudermilk hosting visitors in his office that day and requested that he voluntarily answer questions.
Manger said the video shows Loudermilk with "a group of approximately 12 people which later grew to 15 people" walking through the Capitol office buildings on January 5. It also states that the group of visitors did not "appear in any tunnels that would lead them to the US Capitol."
House Republicans suggested they may release video they believe exonerates Loudermilk of any insinuation that he led a so-called "reconnaissance" tour the night before the January 6 riot.
The House select committee declined to comment on Manger's letter.

 

Watch: CNN Analyst Gets Into It With Don Lemon Over Whether Trump Should be Tried: ‘Don, You’re Wrong!’



CNN analyst Phil Mudd duked it out Thursday night with Don Lemon over whether or not former President Donald Trump should be tried for conspiracy charges in relation to Jan. 6.

Trump’s former attorney, John Eastman, allegedly told White House lawyer Eric Herschmann he didn’t care if challenging the election results could lead to violence.

Lemon asked Mudd whether he thought Trump knew the election wasn’t stolen but still chose to allegedly “accept violence.”

“Is it clear to you that Trump was also willing to accept violence to stay in power?” Lemon asked.


“Heck no,” Mudd responded. “There’s two questions here. There’s a question of whether I think the president did the right thing. No. There’s a question of what I think the Department of Justice will do.”


Mudd said it would be a bad idea for the Justice Department to go after Trump with conspiracy charges, which he noted is difficult to prove.


“If you don’t win that case at the back end … you’re perceived to be someone who is pursuing Donald Trump because you have partisan political interest,” Mudd said, to which Lemon said that Jan. 6 committee witnesses testified Trump’s inner circle told the president he lost the election.

“The president’s going to say ‘my advisers told me I won. I thought I won, that wasn’t a conspiracy,’” Mudd said.

That’s when the two began bickering.

Watch:

 

January 6 hearing: Mark Meadows said he knew Mike Pence stopping certification was illegal
Joel Burgess, Asheville Citizen Times
Mon, June 20, 2022 at 3:00 AM·6 min read






ASHEVILLE - Mark Meadows, former President Donald Trump's chief of staff and former Western North Carolina congressman, said he knew it was illegal for Vice President Mike Pence to stop the election certification, despite the president pushing Pence to do so and inflaming a mob that chanted for the vice president's death.

That was according to the special Jan. 6 congressional committee's third day of testimony June 16 that yielded new information on Meadows' role before and during the insurrection.

Speaking under oath in prerecorded video, former Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short said Meadows understood Pence's role was only ceremonial, though Meadows had shifted positions multiple times.



"I think Mark had told so many people so many different things," Short said.

Meadows Chief of Staff Ben Williamson, also appearing in prerecorded video, said Meadows went to talk to Trump shortly before the president's tweet that led to rioters calling for Pence's lynching.

Western Carolina University political science professor Todd Collins said Meadows' actions could have been an attempt to navigate between hardline conspiracy theorists and Republicans calling for an end to false election fraud claims and the illegal plot to stop the certification.

"He may have been 'reading the room' about how to react or perhaps weighing every option to stay in power," Collins said.

Williamson, who still serves as Meadows spokesperson, responded to June 17 emailed Citizen Times questions, saying he and Meadows declined to comment. Questions included whether Meadows would change his mind and testify before the committee whose next hearing is June 21 and what he said to the president shortly before Trump's inflammatory tweet.

Meadows was elected in 2012 to the 11th District seat covering most of WNC and part of Asheville. He resigned in 2020 to work as Trump's top aide. During and after the 2020 election, he frequently raised the prospect of voter fraud, casting doubt on Joe Biden's win. But Meadows is now facing a North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation election fraud probe after records showed him voting using the address of a Macon County mobile home where he appears never to have stayed.


After the formation of the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack, Meadows turned over thousands of texts but later stopped cooperating and declined to testify. The House voted to hold him in contempt of Congress, but the Justice Department declined to prosecute.

Still, the texts and testimony have put him at the center of the investigation. At the June 16 hearing, Short was asked whether Meadows supported Trump's plan — deemed illegal by prominent conservative and former federal appeals court judge Michael Luttig — to overturn the election by having Pence either reject electors from states that voted for Biden or delay the certification so recounts could be done despite no evidence of problems.


White House official Dan Scavino, right, and White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, left, walk toward Marine One with President Donald Trump on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington on Tuesday, Sept. 22, 2020.
Here is an excerpt:

Committee staffer: "You've been clear repeatedly with Mr. Meadows, about you and the Vice President having a different view about his authority on January 6."

Short: "I believe I had."

Staffer: "Did Mr. Meadows ever explicitly or tacitly agree with you or say 'Yeah, that makes sense,' or 'OK'?"

Short: "I believe that Mark did agree."

Staffer: "What makes you say that?"

Short: "I believe that's what he told me. But as I mentioned, I think Mark had told so many people so many different things that it was not something that I would necessarily accept as 'OK. Well, that means that's resolved.'"

Staffer: "Tell me more about what he told you on this topic."

Short: "I think it was that, you know, the vice president doesn't have any broader role. And I think he was understanding that."

Staffer: "So despite the fact that he may have said other things to the President or others, to you he said he understands that the vice president has no role."

Short: "Yes."

Staffer: "Did he say that you to several times?"

Short: "A couple of times."

Staffer: "Before January 6?"

Short: "Yes."


But even though Trump's chief of staff said he knew the plan was illegal, Trump continued to call on Pence to act, doing so in speeches, tweets and in phone calls, according to hearing testimony.

On Jan. 6, aides and the president's family gathered in the White House where they watched as Trump's supporters fought with police and breached the Capitol.

Williamson, in his testimony, said he and other top advisers decided someone should get the president to calm the situation. He sent a text to his boss Meadows reading "Would recommend POTUS put out a tweet about respecting the police over at the Capitol — getting a little hairy over there"


A video of Ben Williamson, right, former top aide to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows answering questions under oath from the Jan. 6 special House committee.
Williamson said he then went to Meadows and repeated verbally what he said in the text.

"To my recollection he immediately got up and left his office," he said, with Meadows walking toward where the president was in the Oval Office.

But as it became apparent to Trump that Pence would not interfere with the certification, he did not send a calming message. Instead at 2:24 p.m. he tweeted “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what was necessary."

Rioters inside and outside the Capitol surged forward according to evidence from the hearings, saying Pence had betrayed them and chanting "hang Mike Pence." A makeshift gallows had been erected nearby.

The Secret Service rushed Pence away from his Senate office coming within 40 feet of rioters before arriving at an underground location, information from the hearings showed.


A text message sent Jan. 6, 2021, to White House Chief of staff Mark Meadows from his top aide Ben Williamson.
A bipartisan Senate report found seven people died in connection with the attack, including Capitol Police Officer Brian Sitnick, who died of strokes after battling the mob, and rioter Ashli Babbitt, shot by police while trying to breach the House chamber.

Collins, the WCU professor, said in the third and prior hearings, a picture of Meadows has developed "as the central point of contact for those outside the White House to try and get messages to President Trump, particularly in the text messages that were released.

"Some of these were encouragement/ideas to fight the election results, others were voices of moderation, while still others implore Meadows to take measures to quell the Jan 6 rioters."

Meadows' brief responses to those texts, revealed by the committee, suggests he may have been "reading the room," Collins said, and trying to play both sides.


As for whether the hearings had revealed any evidence of criminal action by Meadows, Collins said what has been shown so far did not provide "smoking gun," though there were more committee proceedings to come and recent stories about the former chief destroying documents following a meeting with GOP Rep Scott Perry of Pennsylvania weeks after Election Day 2020.

"He may have likely suspected what was going to happen during the march on the Capitol, but that may not be enough for a criminal conviction," Collins said. "If more evidence comes out about Meadows allegedly burning government documents, however, that could lead to some issues of destruction of evidence/public documents, which may more likely led to some serious consequences."

Joel Burgess has lived in WNC for more than 20 years, covering politics, government and other news. He's written award-winning stories on topics ranging from gerrymandering to police use of force. Got a tip? Contact Burgess at jburgess@citizentimes.com, 828-713-1095 or on Twitter @AVLreporter. Please help support this type of journalism with a subscription to the Citizen Times.

This article originally appeared on Asheville Citizen Times: January 6 hearing: Meadows said Pence stopping certification illegal



https://www.yahoo.com/news/january-6-hearing-mark-meadows-090059587.html

 

Which advisor? I'm sure we could call them to the stand to corroborate his claim.

Plus, you add to that Trump still thinks he won.