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  1. stumbler

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    Now this just gained a few tons in the past couple hours.

    Democrats Say Trump’s Lawyers Just Made A Great Case — For Calling Witnesses and Documents
    “They made the case this morning for why documents and witnesses are absolutely necessary to resolve this.”

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/trump-impeachment-trial-witnesses-defense-lawyers

    John Bolton’s manuscript confirms Trump’s bribery of Ukraine: report
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/john-boltons-manuscript-confirms-trumps-bribery-of-ukraine-report/


    John Bolton went to Bill Barr with concerns about Giuliani’s ‘shadow foreign policy’ in Ukraine: report
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/jo...anis-shadow-foreign-policy-in-ukraine-report/

    Mike Pompeo called Trump’s Ukraine claims nonsense — and thought Rudy Giuliani was corrupt: Bolton
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mi...and-thought-rudy-giuliani-was-corrupt-bolton/
     
  2. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Report: Bolton says Trump tied Ukraine funds to Biden probe


    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump told his national security adviser he wanted to maintain a freeze on military assistance to Ukraine until it aided political investigations into his Democratic rivals, according to a report in The New York Times on Sunday.

    The newspaper said John Bolton's description of his exchange with Trump appears in drafts of his forthcoming book. The revelation challenges the defense offered up by Trump and his attorneys in his Senate impeachment trial and raises the stakes as the chamber decided this week whether to seek sworn testimony from Bolton and other witnesses.

    Bolton, who acrimoniously left the White House a day before Trump ultimately released the Ukraine aid on Sept. 11, has already told lawmakers that he is willing to testify, despite the president's order barring aides from cooperating in the probe.

    The White House did not respond to a request for comment Sunday night. Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who has played a prominent role in the Ukraine affair, replied to a request for comment with a text: “I used to like and respect John and tell people they were wrong about how irresponsible he was. I was wrong.”

    Democrats need at least four Republicans to vote with them to seek witness testimony. Those prospects looked unlikely in recent days and it's unclear if the new revelations about Bolton's book will sway any GOP senators.

    Democrats quickly sought to ramp up the pressure on their Republican counterparts.

    “John Bolton has the evidence,” tweeted Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. “It’s up to four Senate Republicans to ensure that John Bolton, Mick Mulvaney, and the others with direct knowledge of President Trump’s actions testify in the Senate trial.”

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had no immediate comment, according to his office.

    The Associated Press has not confirmed the content of Bolton's draft book. A person familiar with the matter told the AP the book had been submitted to the White House for pre-publication review, which is standard for the work of former officials with security clearances. The person insisted on anonymity to discuss the sensitive subject.

    The book's publisher, Simon & Schuster, declined to comment.

    Sarah Tinsley, an adviser to Bolton, said: “The ambassador's manuscript was transmitted to the White House in hard copy several weeks ago for pre-publication review by the NSC. The ambassador has not passed the draft manuscript to anyone else. Period.”

    Bolton attorney Charles J. Cooper said in a statement that the pre-publication review process had been “corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript.”

    Democrats accuse Trump of abuse of power in withholding the military assistance to Ukraine to push that country to mount investigations into Democrats, including former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, who served on the board of a Ukraine gas company, Burisma, while his father was in office.

    On Saturday, the president's attorneys said during their opening day of defense arguments that there was no evidence that Trump made the military aid contingent on the country announcing an investigation into Biden.

    The Times also reported that Bolton says he told Attorney General William Barr that he was mentioned by Trump on his July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. A Justice Department official on Sunday disputed Bolton’s account that he had told Barr about the president’s call with Zelenskiy but did say that Bolton had called Barr to raise concerns about Giuliani’s shadow diplomacy efforts.

    Trump on Wednesday told reporters in Davos, Switzerland, that he didn't want Bolton to testify before the Senate.

    “The problem with John is it’s a national security problem," Trump said. “He knows some of my thoughts. He knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader and it’s not very positive and then I have to deal on behalf of the country?”

    He added: “It's going to be very hard. It's going to make the job very hard.”
     
  3. stumbler

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    And this is the reason I refuse to let my critics desuade me from using RAWSTORY as my primary source claiming its rank, rabidly partisan, worst headlines in the world, left wing propaganda site.

    Democratic senator says she gets more ‘disheartened’ every day hearing GOP deny evidence and witnesses

    *From there to there is some just god damned excellent rank, rabidly partisan, left wing propaganda. They just out did themselves this time. The worst possible mistake is in the lead. But if you look at not just the length of the article but the length of the quotes Sen. Debbie Stabenow, who's actually a Democrat gets a chance to get the message out. And lays out the game plan for where they are headed. It does what propaganda is supposed to do. Inspire and give you hope. And there's nothing false in it. And no real danger of posting the game plan here because you guys won't read it.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/de...-day-hearing-gop-deny-evidence-and-witnesses/
     
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  4. stumbler

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    And this is the reason I refuse to let my critics dissuade me from using RAWSTORY as my primary source charging it is a rank, rabidly partisan, worst headlines in the world, left wing propaganda site.

    Democratic senator says she gets more ‘disheartened’ every day hearing GOP deny evidence and witnesses

    *From there to there* is some just god damned excellent rank, rabidly partisan, left wing propaganda. They just out did themselves this time. The worst possible mistake is in the lead. But if you look at not just the length of the article but the length of the quotes Sen. Debbie Stabenow, who's actually a Democrat, gets a chance to get the message out. And lays out the game plan for where they are headed. It does what propaganda is supposed to do. Inspire and gives you hope. Dealing to our strong suits, And there's nothing false in it. And no real danger of posting the game plan here because you guys won't read it. And I'm not going to highlight it for you.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/de...-day-hearing-gop-deny-evidence-and-witnesses/
     
  5. Sanity_is_Relative

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    GOP senator: ‘Hopefully’ Trump will learn lessons from impeachment
    By Connor O’Brien
    [​IMG]January 26, 2020, 12:08 PM CST



    Republican Sen. Mike Braun on Sunday said he hopes the impeachment process will “be instructive” for President Donald Trump’s conduct if he’s acquitted by the Senate.

    In an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Braun was grilled by host Chuck Todd on how Trump will react to beating articles of impeachment, which is seen as a near certainty in a Republican-controlled Senate.

    "This president, as you know, he's going to take acquittal and think, 'I can keep doing this,'" Todd said.

    "No, I don't think that," Braun replied. "Hopefully it'll be instructive."

    "I think he'll put two and two together," the Indiana Republican added. "In this case, he was taken to the carpet."

    Trump’s impeachment trial on charges that he abused of power by withholding military aid from Ukraine to pressure its government to investigate his political rivals and obstructed Congress could wind down as soon as this week should the Senate rebuffs Democratic calls for new witnesses, which would require at least four Republicans to break ranks.

    Braun added that House Democratic impeachment managers, who ended their presentation Friday, “put together a broad, comprehensive case” but criticized it as “circumstantial in nature.”

    Asked if he thinks Trump regrets what he did, Braun answered: "I think he’ll be instructed by what has occurred here and certainly any individual would want to avoid whatever might need to be modified to go through this again because the threat has already been out there that we might find something else to impeach on, which I think is a mistake because I think we need to get back to what most Americans are interested in: the agenda.”
     
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  6. ace's n 8's

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    Love us some 'Executive Privileges' dont we?

    Trump tells Bolton, (his former National SECURITY Advisor) that he can not testify, aint that a damn shame.

    Seems the House leftists should have done a more thorough job and took more time to gather a political case against Trump...but NOPE... they didn't have the time.

    Shame...

    Taken out the very link that you have provided, in the 3rd paragraph, that you so conveniently excluded...

    I cant believe that a fellow of your intellect and magnitude would throw such credence into a rather familiar political tactic by the state-run leftist media.

    You embarrassed me.
     
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  7. ace's n 8's

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    Bolton's manuscript leaks as memoir pre-orders begin on Amazon; Trump fires back

    Trump fired back on Twitter on Sunday to refute Bolton's claims, saying he "NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens." Trump went on to accuse Bolton of trying to "sell a book," noting that Bolton did not complain publicly or privately about the aid holdup "at the time of his very public termination."

    Unlike this political hit piece...

    .Report: Bolton says Trump tied Ukraine funds to Biden probe
    ZEKE MILLER and ERIC TUCKER.

    Several named sources claim that it was a publicity stunt, similar to the same greedy tactics that Comey used, using the same agent and leaking to the same reporters.

    Bolton's team declined to "speculate" to Fox News as to how a description of his manuscript might have leaked to the Times. Additionally, Bolton's representatives made clear he was not denying the Times' claim concerning the Ukraine aid holdup and the possible investigation of the Bidens.

    The term ''possible'' is not a term used to confirm an investigation into political rivals.
     
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  8. OlDogger

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    @ace's n 8's :
    Taken out the very link that you have provided, in the 3rd paragraph, that you so conveniently excluded...

    I cant believe that a fellow of your intellect and magnitude would throw such credence into a rather familiar political tactic by the state-run leftist media.

    You embarrassed me.
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    You're referring to this, just below the headline and lead detailing paragraphs ? upload_2020-1-27_6-29-54.png
    Below that was a rehash of commentary we've heard about or read before.. What occurs in the next few days will determine the absolute validity of this report, either way. I see no subterfuge or disinformation in placing this before our eyeballs and senses.
     
  9. stumbler

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    Yeah John Bolton has a sense of humor that said "I'm out for blood."

    John Bolton’s Book Named ‘Room Where It Happened,’ After ‘Hamilton’ Anthem of Corruption

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-...-after-hamilton-anthem-of-corruption?ref=home
     
  10. deleted user 555 768

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    Rah, Rah, Zis boom bah, this will get Trump Rah, Rah, Rah.
     
  11. stumbler

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    To understand the true significance of this you first have to know just how worthless MAGA Haberman is. She may submit her stories to the New York Times but they might as well be WH press releases. Because she just writes down what her "sources" tell her without ever checking to see if its true or nor. So what Trump, people in the WH, and now Republicans use MAGA Haberman for is to "leak" to her to get the story they want out. And in this case Republicans in the Senate are running to Haberman to make sure Trump and the WH know just how fucking pissed off they are at them and they feel like Trump and the WH set them up. Which they did. They have had Bolton's book for more than a month. Know Bolton says he was an eyewitness to Trump's crimes and they still went with the lie no one can say Trump told them he was withholding the aid to Ukraine until they announce the investigations he wants to try and frame Biden. Te Republicans in the Senate have crawled out on a limb a mile long to help push that narrative and it just got cut off. And consequently their plan to rush the trial through and acquit Trump by the end of the week is now blown to shit. And they now have to consider saving themselves.

    GOP senators privately demanding to know why White House set them up to take the fall over Bolton: report

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/go...-them-up-to-take-the-fall-over-bolton-report/
     
  12. Truthful 1

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    All this shit Has become so boring to me I don’t even watch TV listen to the radio or pay attention to stumbles anymore
     
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      Oh wait a second I never did pay any attention to stumbles I forgot
       
      Truthful 1, Jan 27, 2020
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      @Truthful 1, you could learn quite a lot from reading stumbler's copy and paste jobs, and original compositions written by the Master of Facts. :smug:

      Those written compositions would require you to look up a few words in a dictionary, but that would benefit you too. :smuggrin:
       
      Distant Lover, Jan 28, 2020
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      I’ll pass I made it this far without reading and writing
       
      Truthful 1, Jan 28, 2020
  13. stumbler

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    Just an obvious laughable lie because you are constantly commenting on both the impeachment and me. Which of course is what you are getting paid to do. Your only mission is to try and spread hate and discontent and misdirection. Straight out of the Russian intelligence playbook and the same thing we have been seeing since 2015 at least. Which actually just goes to prove how weak Putin and Russia really are. They can't even come up with a new approach that is not just fucking obvious even with their asset in the White House helping them.
     
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      No buddy Are used to watch this shit 24 hours a day I’ve cut way back. Only stopping in to fuck with you lol Because your stupidity is beyond compare. And I have no fear that Donald Trump will be the next president because of stupid people exactly like you. There you go stumbles .
       
      Truthful 1, Jan 27, 2020
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    Another thing that's actually kind of funny is to watch all the WH and Hill reporters because they are just breathless and keep crashing into studios to report even the tiniest little detail or even facial expressions and body language in some cases. And that is because as of yesterday and last night things had turned downright boring. All their sources were telling them fuck any witnesses we are going to acquit Trump before the Super Bowl. But now all their sources are in so many words are telling them "No, things have changed. We kept standing up screaming for proof which was our best rat fucking trick. And then that fucking Bolton provided the proof. So now we're fucked."
     
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      What the fuck are you trying to say lolYou speak worse than me that’s pretty fucking bad . I like it
       
      Truthful 1, Jan 27, 2020
  15. thinskin

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    More highbrow contribution to the debate!

    Thinskin
     
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      I liked it, ...remember, I have a penchant for a laugh
       
      deleted user 555 768, Jan 27, 2020
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    Watching right now and here it comes.....the Trump defense will admit everything and say it is not impeachable!

    The WH had the Bolton manuscript for weeks and said nothing making GOP senators look foolish!

    Thinskin
     
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    Starr just severely spanked the lot of them - all of the corrupt, slimy Dems, not just the lying, crooked ringleaders, but to last treacherous cheats who voted for this bullshit impeachment, should have as much red on their faces as, figuratively, they do on their butts... but they won't, as there's not a shred of honor or dignity among them.
     
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      Starr was very erudite but he did not say the democrats were corrupt he said they were mistaken.....we shall see!

      ts
       
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      Read it again - Nowhere did I state or infer that Starr said anything of the kind. I identified the group of 'spankees' and gave them appropriate adjectives and modifiers.

      PS: Mistaken, my ass...
       
      latecomer91364, Jan 27, 2020
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      Moronic you think I cannot read Clarise's post where she used the word corrupt and inferred further!

      I suppose if you were a man of good fortune you would not be in search of a wife?

      ts
       
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      Hahaha - you are apparently an idiot who is unacquainted with reading comprehension. Corrupt was MY word, not Starr's dumbass, but if you were incapable of understanding that the first two times, I doubt you have the brain power to understand it now.

      Like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid."
       
      latecomer91364, Jan 28, 2020
  18. OlDogger

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    I perceived the Soleimani execution as a lure to suave the ego of Bolton, since it's now known that the WH knew before: what was in the transcript..
     
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      Nice side-step but 6 comments now so I am not buying it!

      Circumstantial I grant you but nevertheless!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Jan 27, 2020
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      You originated the sidestep, I'm not selling anything but your sure tryin to buy something
       
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      @shy guy : I was asking OlDogger obviously
      Been away since last post.. What was curious to me was why Bolton ran the manuscript (except for national security) by the WH. WH's incidental review for NS made it cleat that they needed to bring Bolton's affections out from the cold. By reports that the Iraqi PM told Trump about Solemani's upcoming diplomatic feelers w/the Saudis, would have given the WH/Trump the opportunity they hoped would warm Bolton to them again..
      [Never thought that Soleimani was so immanently dangerous (w/o the supposed knowing about the 'peace feelers') to have him killed rather than captured for a bargaining chip].
       
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      Cant believe that Trump would take out Solimini and risk what could happen wth iran, the mid East, Russia, thats a BIG gamble, to make nice with Bolton, and with democrat investigating everything, dont think Trump would risk it....too much could go wrong
       
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      Don't know how old you are..
      After Nov. 22, 1963-Anything is possible.
      W/Trump it's even easier to believe b/c he unabashedly brags of having any mutually ethical rules in his transactionalism..
       
      OlDogger, Jan 28, 2020
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    I was watching Starr, he was explaining how the constitution works in regard to impeachment, its precedent, definition, history, application, also said there are no crimes in the impeachment article.

    Seems every time the democrats speak its with emotion and drama, so far Republicans are calm, even toned, talking about law, and whether anything Democrats accuse Trump of is actually impeachable.
     
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    Yeah, having that manuscript hanging the White House for a month or so is a real problem. Someone has to be committing perjury somewhere along the line for Trump's attorneys to stand in the well of the Senate and tell proven lies.

    Trump’s legal team is subject to ‘criminal perjury charges’ in light of John Bolton’s revelations: whistleblower’s attorney

    *And there is Trump's confession.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/tr...-boltons-revelations-whistleblowers-attorney/