Another 3rd grade response.

 

Well be sure to wake us when there are actual charges brought.

But until then

 

I don't think politics should be discussed here. Especially US politics.

 

And when people discuss politics it gets out of control.
I find it so strange that there is a political forum on this site.

 

And yet here you are in the politics section. Why is that? What are you doing here? And why ar3e you spewing straight up Putin/Russian false propaganda on this thread?

https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/secr...in-election-to-help-trump-win.448644/page-320

I find you and your objections strange since we have been discussing politics on this forum since it was first crated more than 17 years ago.

 

‘Conspiring with Putin’: Democratic congressman brings the hammer down on Jim Jordan

David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement
February 27, 2024 11:24AM ET



Congressman Jim Jordan at CPAC 2023. (Shutterstock.com)




U.S. Rep. Daniel Goldman (D-NY) is going after Jim Jordan, alleging the House Republican Judiciary Chair is "conspiring" with Russian President Vladimir Putin after posting a lengthy 2477 word diatribe that includes the thoroughly debunked "Burisma" claims even after the source of those claims, now-indicted former FBI source Alexander Smirnov, acknowledged it was propaganda fed to him from Kremlin officials.

"There are too many false statements in this fiction novel to address here, but it’s shocking that @Jim_Jordan continues to promote the Burisma hoax even after he learned that it was falsely peddled by Putin," charged Congressman Goldman, an attorney and former federal prosecutor.

"Jordan is now conspiring with Putin to interfere in the Nov election," Goldman alleged.

As NCRM reported last week, legal experts have been warning House Republicans if they continue to assert what Special Counsel David Weiss stated in a court document are false claims, including that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden each took $5 million bribes, they could be subject to conspiracy charges.

READ MORE: ‘How Extremism Is Normalized’: Schlapp Furious as Critics Slam CPAC Over Report of Nazis

The U.S. Dept. of Justice “must investigate whether and when Grassley, Comer or Jordan knew that Smirnov was spreading Russian disinformation,” Congressman Goldman, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney who prosecuted mobsters and Russian organized crime, declared Wednesday. “But now that it’s public, Comer and Jordan clearly will be conspiring with Putin to interfere in the election if they continue with this bogus impeachment.”

It's not only Goldman.

Last week well-known former federal prosecutor of 30 years, Glenn Kirschner, also warned Republicans.

“I think the big question now is, what will the Republican members of Congress do now that they know that these are lies that they have been peddling as ably-assisted by Fox News? Will they continue to peddle those lies?” he told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, “I heard Congressman Daniel Goldman on this network earlier this evening, saying something that I am in agreement with. He said that if members of Congress now continue to peddle knowing lies that are a product of Russian propaganda and disinformation, they should be criminally investigated for being part and parcel of a conspiracy to defraud the United States and to interfere in our elections.”

Attorney Maurice Ross on Friday wrote: "Joe Biden and Hunter Biden should sue Comer, Jordan and Grassley for defamation. The Speech and Debate Clause should not immunize willful slander. Further, the FBI and Justice Department should prosecute them for conspiracy with Russia to engage in treason."

Last week Congressman Goldman appeared on MSNBC to discuss how Republicans promoting Russian disinformation might be criminally exposed.

Watch below or at this link.





https://www.rawstory.com/conspiring...ressman-brings-the-hammer-down-on-jim-jordan/

 

@Iluvpuppies
So you've met the american hater (aka stumbler)
You'll find that he's long on useless propaganda slogans, short on reliable facts.
If you don't want to discuss politics, that's your choice, just ignore the politics sub forum in general discussion.
Very simple and easy to do.
That way, you're happy, american hater is less unhappy, and the rest of us don't give a damn.

 

I have no clue what you are talking about.
I will be honest I despise American politics. And it is because of the hostility especially from the left. People like you.
I'm not American. I am Canadian. Politics here were never too hostile until Trudeau became Prime Minister. There was no far left or far right. There is now and the country has never been more divided. The woke culture is dividing the country. The same thing is happening in the US, UK, Australia and most of mainland Europe.
I regret posting in this forum. I saw an alert from this forum and opened it. I couldn't help but put in my 2 cents. Shouldn't have.
I did ask a question in which no person has replied. Who here joined this message board for the politics?
The answer is no one.
Please do not respond to me again. I will be blocking you.

 

Well, its about what we can expect from a canadian, eh?

 

House Democrat Schools Republicans On 'The Real White House Crime Family'
Ben Blanchet
Updated Fri, March 1, 2024 at 9:04 AM MST·2 min read
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Rep. Robert Garcia (D-Calif.) on Thursday dismissed House Republicans who have “tried and tried and tried and failed” to smear President Joe Biden ― especially when, Garcia said, the Trumps are “the real White House crime family.”

Garcia criticized GOP lawmakers for their “political stunt” and “joke” impeachment inquiry against the president just one day after Hunter Biden’s closed-door deposition on his business dealings, which he said his father was not engaged in.

Garcia –– who said Republicans have “zero evidence” tying Hunter Biden to any such dealings with his father –– delivered a message to GOP lawmakers as he spoke on the House floor next to a picture of Jared Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, who both served as advisers in the Trump administration.

“I want to remind everyone about the real White House crime family,” Garcia said of Kushner, former President Donald Trump’s son-in-law.

He continued: “Why did Saudi Arabia give Jared Kushner $2 billion –– billion with a B –– just months after he left the Trump White House? And why did the Saudis spend hundreds of thousands of dollars at Trump properties while he was still the president?”

Garcia has previously commented on the Saudi-backed private equity fund that gave $2 billion to Kushner’s investment firm six months after he left the White House.

He continued: “We also know that Jared Kushner used his cushy White House job to secure a $100 billion arms deal for Saudi Arabia, and did other favors as well. Now some members of the majority actually agree that this was unethical. And in fact a few weeks ago, Jared Kushner was asked by a reporter about his grift. He responded, ‘Are we still really doing this?’ Yes, Jared, we are still really doing this.”


Hunter Biden, during his deposition, also flipped questions about his business ventures to Republicans to ask them about Donald Trump’s son-in-law.

“When Jared Kushner flies over to Saudi Arabia, picks up $2 billion, comes back, and puts it in his pocket, OK, and he is running for president of the United States, you guys have any problem with that?” the president’s son said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-democrat-schools-republicans-real-121217793.html

 

Highlights from the transcript of Hunter Biden’s closed-door interview with House Republicans
Jeremy Herb, Melanie Zanona, Annie Grayer and Marshall Cohen, CNN
Thu, February 29, 2024 at 5:46 PM MST·8 min read
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leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom" data-wf-reset-every="90">Hunter Biden unequivocally denied that his father was ever involved in his business dealings or took any government actions on his behalf during a roughly six-hour deposition Wednesday where President Joe Biden’s son frequently clashed with the Republicans questioning him.

House Republicans’ impeachment inquiry is built upon the still-unproven notion that Joe Biden abused his powers as vice president to enrich himself and his family, through Hunter Biden’s vast overseas business portfolio.

Hunter Biden accused Republicans of embracing conspiracy theories to target his father, while needling them for failing to investigate another family member of a president – Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner – for his foreign business dealings.


“All I know is this: My father was never involved in any of my business, ever,” Hunter Biden said, according to a transcript of the interview released Thursday evening. “Never received a cent from anybody or never benefited in any way. Never took any actions on behalf in any way. And I can absolutely, 100% state, that is not just in my case but in every family member’s case.”

House Oversight Chairman James Comer, a Kentucky Republican, has said that the next step in the GOP impeachment inquiry – which is facing a heavy dose of skepticism from some corners of the House GOP conference – will be a public hearing with Hunter Biden. Wednesday’s transcript offered a potential preview of how contentious such a hearing would be.

Here are key takeaways from Hunter Biden’s deposition:

Hunter Biden says he was ‘drunk and probably high’ when he name-dropped father in WhatsApp message to Chinese associate
Hunter Biden testified that he was “out of my mind” and “drunk and probably high” when he sent a WhatsApp message to a Chinese associate in 2017 stating that he was “sitting here with my father.”

Hunter Biden told lawmakers during his closed-door deposition Wednesday that his father was not actually sitting next to him, even as he insisted he had no recollection of sending the message in the first place.

“My father was not sitting next to me. My father had no awareness. My father had no awareness of the business that I was doing. My father never benefited from any of the business that I was doing,” Hunter Biden said, according to the interview transcript.

Hunter Biden also noted the message was sent to the wrong recipient – to someone who shares the same name last “Zhao” and was not connected to the CEFC – which Hunter said “is the best indication of how out of my mind I was at this moment in time.”

The WhatsApp message, in which Hunter Biden name drops his father as he demanded payment, has been the subject of heavy scrutiny by GOP investigators.

The comment came during yet another combative exchange between Hunter Biden and House Republicans, with the president’s son calling their questions “ridiculous” and lawmakers accusing him of “filibustering.”

Hunter challenged GOP to prove that he sent money to his father
During a heated moment in his deposition, Hunter Biden challenged GOP lawmakers to prove that he sent money to his father other than a small car loan repayment.

“I appreciate the job that you have. I truly do. I appreciate the job that you all have. But I am telling you this: is that if you can show me where any money that I’ve ever had went to my father, other than, for instance, the repayment of the $1,300 for a loan for a truck – OK?” Hunter Biden said.

The quip was sparked by a comment from an unidentified questioner, according to the transcript, who accused Hunter of having “ripped off your business partner.”

Hunter Biden was referring to a repaid car loan that Republicans previously claimed could have been evidence of payments from overseas business dealings flowing from Hunter up to his father.

Asked about a 2017 email from a business associate suggesting that Joe Biden, then a private citizen, should have a financial stake in a business agreement – that Hunter Biden should hold money “for the big guy” – Hunter Biden said that was “pie in the sky.”

“All I know is that what was executed in the agreement, and the agreement didn’t have anything to do with my father,” Hunter Biden said.

Hunter Biden said he never crossed ‘very bright lines’ of asking dad to help his business partners
Under sympathetic questioning from House Democrats, Hunter Biden explained how he separates his business activities from his relationship with his father, who became a senator when he was 2 years old.

“It’s just a natural family relationship. I was a professional adult, and I had my business, and my dad had his business,” Hunter Biden said.

“There was one thing that we – that I was fully aware of my entire life, is that my dad was an official of the United States government, and there were very bright lines that I abided to and that I was very, very cognizant of,” he continued. “And I made certain that I never engaged with my father in asking him to do anything on my behalf or on behalf of any client of mine.”

However, there are indications that Hunter Biden did blur these lines at times. There isn’t evidence supporting the GOP claims that Joe Biden was in business with his father, or that he abused his government positions to enrich his family. But there are a few examples where Hunter Biden introduced business partners to his father, or when he invoked his father’s name to close potential deals.

Hunter Biden pressed GOP to investigate Jared Kushner and Saudi Arabia
Hunter Biden pushed back on Republican questions about the money he received from Chinese businesses by pointing to the $2 billion Saudi Arabia invested in a private equity firm created by Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.

“The question being asked, that you’re stating, is that my father said that I never received any money from China, the government of China. Unlike Jared Kushner, I’ve never received money from a foreign government,” Hunter Biden said in response to a question from Republican staff.

He knocked Republicans later in the interview for not investigating the money Kushner’s firm received after he left the White House in 2021.

“When Jared Kushner flies over to Saudi Arabia, picks up $2 billion, comes back, and puts it in his pocket, OK, and (Trump) is running for President of the United States, you guys have any problem with that?”

“The clock has stopped,” interjected Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican.

“No, the clock has not stopped. Do you guys have any problem with that? I’m asking. It’s unbelievable to me,” Hunter Biden responded.

Gaetz and Hunter Biden clash over Hunter’s drug use
Gaetz and Hunter Biden engaged in a tense exchange over Hunter Biden’s drug use after the Florida Republican asked the president’s son, “Were you on drugs when you were on the Burisma board?”

“Mr. Gaetz, look me in the eye. You really think that’s appropriate to ask me?” Hunter responded.

“Absolutely,” Gaetz shot back.

“Of all the people sitting around this table, do you think that’s appropriate to ask me?” Hunter pressed. Hunter did not explain why he was pushing back.

“Yeah. Are you going to answer it?” Gaetz asked again.

After some back and forth with Hunter Biden’s attorney, Abbe Lowell, who had said that was outside the scope and relevance of the impeachment inquiry, Hunter Biden said: “I will answer it this way: I have been absolutely transparent about my drug use. Again, I spoke to you all earlier this morning about that. I’m sorry; I’m an addict. I was an addict. I have been in recovery for over 4-and-a-half years now, Mr. Gaetz. I work really, really hard at it. Let me answer. I work really hard at it, under an enormous amount of pressure.”

Hunter continued: “Was I an addict? Yes, I was an addict. What does that have to do with whether or not you’re going to go forward with an impeachment of my father other than to simply try to embarrass me?”

Hunter Biden slams GOP for recycling debunked claim about Ukrainian prosecutor
Hunter Biden forcefully pushed back on Republicans after they brought up a long-debunked claim that Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired to protect his son’s lucrative business dealings in the country.

“That’s the exact opposite of the truth,” Hunter Biden said.

He walked through the true version of events that has become familiar to fact-checkers since 2019: Despite the GOP claims, the prosecutor Victor Shokin was not investigating Burisma at the time. Joe Biden did push for Shokin’s ouster, but that was consistent with bipartisan US policy and the policy of European nations too. And getting Shokin fired would’ve increased, not decreased, scrutiny of Burisma.

Hunter Biden pinned the resurgence of the false narrative on Alexander Smirnov, a longtime FBI agent who was indicted earlier this month on charges of lying to authorities. The Justice Department says Smirnov fabricated a story about the Bidens taking massive bribes from Burisma to get Shokin fired.

“The most important point that I’d like to add and for once and for all here is that we can all agree is that there is not a single person other than Alexander Smirnov who says that Shokin, that Shokin was fired because I was on the board of Burisma,” Hunter Biden told the committees. “It’s literally the exact opposite, and that has been a fact now since it was first claimed. It is a fact. I’m telling you. It is a fact.”

He testified that he never spoke to his father about Shokin.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/highlights-transcript-hunter-biden-closed-004640014.html

 

Whataboutism is not a defense for the crime of corruption or fraud.
Says so right there in the book.

 

Nor is crying about political witch hunts, eh

 

Hunter Biden addressed numerous allegations under questioning from lawmakers, transcript shows
LAUREN PELLER, MIKE LEVINE, MARIAM KHAN, JOHN PARKINSON and LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN
Thu, February 29, 2024 at 7:09 PM MST·5 min read
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A measured and defiant leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom" data-wf-reset-every="90">Hunter Biden provided context for a litany of allegations he faced during six hours with Republican lawmakers Wednesday, according to a transcript released Thursday of the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees' closed-door proceeding as part of their impeachment inquiry into his father, President Joe Biden.

The deposition appeared to include no major bombshells as Hunter Biden repeatedly invoked his struggles with drug and alcohol addiction -- telling the committee he was "embarrassed" by some of his conduct at the time -- while not once invoking his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination.

The GOP-led committees have yet to present firm evidence linking President Biden to his family's business arrangements.

MORE: Defiant Hunter Biden testifies behind closed doors in GOP impeachment inquiry

In explaining his putting his father on speakerphone in the presence of business associates, Hunter Biden said that he always answers the phone when his dad calls -- which he said is often -- citing the multiple family tragedies that the Bidens have endured over the years.

"My dad calls me like I'm sure a lot of your parents do, or a lot of you do with your children, and if I'm with people that are friends of mine, I'll have him say hi," Hunter Biden said. "It is nothing nefarious, literally."

Devon Archer, a former business partner of Hunter Biden's who is another witness in the probe, said earlier that he witnessed Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone 20 times during their 10-year relationship.

"So that means, over the course of 10 years, twice a year, my dad would call me," Hunter Biden said, "and I would be in the middle of a dinner, and I always answer his call. I always answer his call, based upon my life's experience."


PHOTO: Hunter Biden, son of President Joe Biden, leaves after a closed door interview as part of the Republican-led House of Representatives impeachment inquiry at the O'Neill House Office Building, in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 28, 2024. (Michael Reynolds/EPA via Shutterstock)
"You understand my relationship with my family," he said. "When my dad was 29 years old, he woke up one day, went to work, and got a phone call and lost his wife and his daughter. And, in that same accident, he also lost almost my brother and myself. And then, when I was 46 years old, my 47-year-old brother died."

"And in our family, when you have a call from -- I call him or he calls me or I call one of my -- his grandkids or one of my children, you always pick up the phone. It's something that we always do," he said.

Other topics that Hunter Biden addressed included:

The 'big guy' email
When asked about a 2017 email from one of his business associates proposing that Joe Biden accept a share of profits from a prospective deal with a Chinese energy firm -- the infamous "10 held by H for the big guy" email -- Hunter Biden said the person who sent it, James Gilliar, had no basis for the suggestion.

"I truly don't know what the hell that James was talking about," Hunter Biden said.

The college recommendation
Asked about a college recommendation letter his father penned for the son of his Chinese business associate, Jonathan Li, Hunter Biden acknowledged that it happened -- but explained that "there was a rule in my family."

"My dad was often asked to write recommendations for hundreds of people that -- I'm sure over the course of the last 50 years," he said. "But the rule was that, if you were going to ask, that they had to be close friends; you had to know them well."

"And I knew both Jonathan, and I knew his son, who was applying to universities here in the United States," Hunter Biden said.

Jared Kushner
Hunter Biden at one point brought up former President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, regarding Kushner's own foreign business dealings in an attempt to draw a contrast with the scrutiny he's received from the committee.

"Unlike Jared Kushner, I've never received money from a foreign government," he said.

Money for his father
Hunter Biden also reiterated that none of his money went to his father. He said he only sent money to his uncle James Biden and Hallie Biden -- but not his dad.

"But it's all my money, and it's none to my dad," he said. "But I am telling you this: is that if you can show me where any money that I've ever had went to my father, other than, for instance, the repayment of the $1,300 for a loan for a truck -- OK?" he said.

The Beijing meeting
Asked about a 2014 trip he took on Air Force Two to Beijing -- during which he reportedly introduced his father to Li -- Hunter Biden claimed it was not a meeting, but a rope-line event.

"When we returned from an event to the hotel, there was a rope line, and Jonathan Li was in the lobby of the hotel where I was going to meet him for coffee. In that line I introduced my dad to Jonathan Li and a friend of his, and they shook hands and I believe probably took a photograph," Hunter Biden said.

"And then my father went up to his room, and I went to have coffee with Jonathan Li," he said.

On Wednesday, during the early stages of Hunter Biden's closed-door interview, GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz made an appearance before the press and said it is "a mirage to believe" the younger Biden was engaged in legitimate business overseas.

In a statement released Thursday following the release of the transcript, Rep. Jamie Raskin, the Oversight Committee's ranking Democrat, said, "Hunter Biden’s testimony debunked and demolished -- once more -- all the false claims and conspiracy theories that make up this hopeless impeachment inquiry."

"It’s time to fold up the circus tent and send all the jugglers, clowns, and elephants home," Raskin said.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hunter-biden-addressed-numerous-allegations-020956221.html

 

Sanitize your idol while skewering those not in lockstep with your world view.
Basic american hating tactic.
Facts are irrelevant.
Truth can be manipulated.

Bout cover it, american haters?

 

https://forum.xnxx.com/attachments/...3/?temp_hash=19d29f994f536434a5f1d0775451bf2c

Caught this off another forum.
Jason Gallantis was a biden partner and testifies to their business dealings.

His testimony puts lie to Joe bidens claim that he never discussed business with hunter, never discussed international business with hunter never did business with hunter

Again, a cover up will always, but always carry 10 times the blowback of the original sin

 

Rep. Eric Swalwell Spots Sign GOP’s Biden Impeachment Inquiry Is Truly A Fail
Josephine Harvey
Updated Mon, March 4, 2024 at 6:47 AM MST·2 min read
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Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) spotted a sign that Republicans’ impeachment inquiry of President leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom" data-wf-reset-every="90">Joe Biden might be dead in the water.

“That’s all she wrote, folks. Even crazy Tomi Lahren thinks this thing is over,” he tweeted, sharing a clip of the right-wing commentator on Fox News.

“As somebody who does believe there’s plenty of evidence here, I think that this has failed optically for Republicans,” Lahren, a contributor to the network, told “MediaBuzz” host Howard Kurtz on Sunday of the impeachment probe.

“They’ve done good work ... but optically, it does make it seem as though they’re beating up on someone with addiction issues,” she added, referring to the intense focus on the president’s son, Hunter Biden.

She encouraged Republicans to focus on the election instead.

“This impeachment inquiry, unfortunately, is falling flat with a lot of viewers and voters,” she said.

Swalwell wasn’t the only one to spot the pivot. Ian Sams, a White House spokesperson, also shared the clip, writing: “When you’ve lost Tomi Lahren…”



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That’s all she wrote folks. Even crazy Tomi Lahren thinks this thing is over.









Acyn
@Acyn
Lahren: I think the impeachment inquiry has failed optically for Republicans. I would encourage Republicans to focus on the election.. This inquiry unfortunately, is falling flat with a lot of viewers.




7:43 PM · Mar 3, 2024




Despite what Lahren says she believes and the claims of Republicans leading the probe, GOP lawmakers have failed to produce any evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden after more than a year of investigating him and his family.

The investigation has unraveled in recent weeks, leaving its fate up in the air after one of Republicans’ key sources in the probe was charged with lying to the FBI about the Bidens.

Lahren and many other Fox News pundits have been advocates for the inquiry, leaning heavily into unsubstantiated Republican allegations in their coverage for months.

In July last year, Lahren told Fox News, “We’ve been literally tripping over evidence” against Joe Biden and said, “I think I speak for a lot of Americans when I say ‘Well, it’s about dang time’” to open an inquiry.

She added, “This is going to be big.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-eric-swalwell-spots-sign-123032778.html

 

They protest too loudly, do these despicables, about the upcoming biden impeachment.