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  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Because I am a Democrat it is easy for me to see Trump doing this. In 2016 he told ex factory workers with low wage jobs that he could get their factory jobs back with "better trade deals." The truth is that the value of factory production in the United States has been rising, while the number of factory jobs has been declining since 1980.

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    Factory jobs are being replaced by industrial robots. Assembly line work only paid good wages because of strong unions. It does not take any more skill to work on an assembly line than it does to work in a fast food restaurant. There is no valid economic reason to pay a factory worker a decent wage when industrial robots can do his job faster, better, and less expensively.

    A New Yorker cartoon I saw a while back captured the problem well. Two men are standing in an unemployment line. One says to the other, "Do you remember when we looked forward to the day when machines would do all the work? Can anyone remember why we thought we would still have jobs?"
     
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  3. deleted user 555 768

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    She's a heart beat from the big chair, ...bet she sticks pins in a little Joe Biden doll at midnight under a full moon, dancing naked in a forest
     
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      Exactly the same . Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 23, 2021
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      I make jokes about things, you snot and insult members
       
      deleted user 555 768, Mar 23, 2021
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      Why?
       
      deleted user 555 768, Mar 23, 2021
    5. aesopstails
      Apparently you don’t know the definition of "pertinent". Interesting (and cowardly) how your nasty remarks are "jokes", yet when I respond in kind, I’m "insulting". You’re a delusional hypocrite.
       
      aesopstails, May 1, 2021
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      Its a week later FFS, pull up your panties, snort up your snot and move on...the rest of the world has....and I said that in all seriousness....no jokes,
       
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  4. Distant Lover

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    APNews,
    August 11, 2020

    CLAIM: Kamala Harris, a U.S. senator and former Democratic presidential candidate from California, said on June 18 that once President Trump is no longer in office “and we have regained our rightful place in the White House,” his supporters will feel the “vengeance of a nation.”

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. This fabricated quote originated with a satirical article in 2019 and is now being shared out of context. There is no evidence Harris ever said this.

    THE FACTS: A quote from a satirical article posted on the website Bustatroll.org in August 2019 is making the rounds again — but this time, people are sharing it as true.

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    It is easy to test dubious quotes with an internet search. Nevertheless, I am afraid that there are many Democrats who do think this way. Those Democrats threaten the ability of the Democrat Party to regain the dominance it had from the elections of 1932 to 1964. Last November the Democrats did not win a mandate to fulfill a liberal wish list. The Democrats certainly did not win a mandate to go after those on a hit list. The Democrats have the very difficult challenge to convince most white working class Americans and most white middle class Americans that those Americans benefit more from Democrat policies than Republican policies. I emphasize white Americans, because the Democrats already have the support of most non white Americans.

    A white working class that is a staunch Republican constituency is a bizarre anomaly for which Democrat policies are responsible. When I ask a white blue collar Republican why he votes Republican, he does not tell me that progressive taxation punishes success. He does not tell me that strong labor unions force American manufacturers to move factory production to low wage countries. He tells me about crime, especially black crime. He, his friends, and his relatives have probably been victims of black criminals. He tells me what it was like attending a black majority public school. He tells me about jobs he did not get because of affirmative action.

    The Democrats need to win back most of the white working class and much of the formerly Solid South. They will not do that by pursuing identity politics. Race is the Democrat's weakest issue. It is the issue where Democrat policies have failed in ways that turned the United States into a Republican country.
     
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    Strip away all the rhetoric and division and classifying into groups and its really simple.
    despicables want a large, expensive, invasive government responsible for every aspect of our lives from cradle to grave. States would have minimal responsibility as would individuals.
    Deplorables want a small, inexpensive, uninvasive government responsible for national security and national concerns. The rest is the responsibility of the states, but in the end personal responsibility is paramount.
     
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  6. Distant Lover

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    Most Americans want the government to help them get through life, despite the vicissitudes of capitalism. This is why Republican efforts to pay for their tax cuts for the rich by cutting middle class entitlements always run into a solid wall of opposition. Much of this opposition comes from Republican voters.
     
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      Most Americans think the government is a big waste of money. They would rather the government stay out of their lives and do the job they are supposed to do and quit meddling into things they know nothing about.
       
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  7. shootersa

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    It is incorrect to say that "most Americans want the government to help them get through life .........."

    Most Americans do not want government interference in their lives. They want low taxes and minimal interference in their lives from the government, although of course they want whatever they can get from the government, their employer, and any rich relatives who happen to be around.

    This cannot be spun to say "most Americans want the government to help them get through life.........."
     
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  8. Distant Lover

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    Friday, March 16th, 2018

    Contact: Linda Benesch, lbenesch@socialsecurityworks.org

    New Polling on Social Security, Medicare, and Prescription Drug Prices
    Voters overwhelmingly support expanding Social Security and Medicare, as well as taking federal action to lower drug prices.

    (Washington, DC) — This week, Social Security Works released new data from Public Policy Polling that shows registered voters are far more likely to back candidates who support expanding Social Security, expanding Medicare, and taking federal action to lower prescription drug prices.

    • 84% of voters are more likely to back candidates who support taking federal action to lower prescription drug prices, vs. 11% who are less likely
    • 66% of voters are more likely to back candidates who support expanding and increasing Social Security benefits, vs. 18% who are less likely
    • 64% of voters are more likely to back candidates who support expanding Medicare, vs. 22% who are less likely
    https://socialsecurityworks.org/2018/03/16/new-polling-social-security/

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    According to a Gallup Survey taken April 2019 62% of Americans think upper income people are paying too little in taxes. 9% think they are paying too much.

    69% think corporations are paying too little. 6% think corporations are paying too much.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1714/taxes.aspx
     
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    This cannot be spun to say "most Americans want the government to help them get through life.........."
     
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  10. Distant Lover

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    Then why do most Americans support domestic spending programs that benefit them, paid for by progressive taxation?
     
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      Is that what you believe . More Americans voted for Biden ? Just w0ndering
       
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      Of course more Americans voted for Biden than for Trump.
       
      Distant Lover, Mar 22, 2021
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      That’s what you believe dog ?
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 22, 2021
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    If most Americans voted for Biden, it can be assumed they want domestic spending increased for more free stuff
     
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  12. Distant Lover

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    We want an economy that skews things in our direction. Since the Reagan administration this has not been the case.

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      I guess you don’t remember the seventies . Dog or you have never worked for a living
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 22, 2021
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      Ah. The old income disparity thingy. Another argument for government to step in and fix the problem. Course, there is no problem. No matter how much the 1% make, it does not prevent the 99% from making more money. The 1% are not taking theirs out of the mouths of the poor.

      And sure, Americans like Social Security (they and their employers pay for that) and Medicare (they and their employers pay for that) and Unemployment benefits (employers pay for that). Domestic programs like Social Security are NOT there to "help Americans get through life", in fact, if there was no government involvement in Social Security people would do far better economically with their retirement plans, and have far more flexibility on when and how much they take from the plan. Also, when one dies their Social Security reverts to the Government; a 100% estate tax! With no government involvement whatever is left over when we die would be part of our estate.
       
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  13. Distant Lover

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    Yes it can too. If one feels something strongly, like you and other XNXX reactionaries do, it is easy to overestimate the number of people who feel the same way. It is easy to underestimate the difficulty of converting others to one's persuasion. That is why I like polls. I realize that a lot of people do not share some of my opinions, but when they agree with me on an issue I like to point it out.

    The government grew to its present size in response to popular opinion. Every item in the domestic budget has a powerful constituency to protect it. The largest and most expensive domestic spending programs are the most popular.

    David Stockman was the Director of the Office of Management of Budget under Ronald Reagan from 1981 to 1985. After leaving the Reagan administration he wrote The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed. In this book he says in effect that Reagan's economic policy was a scam. It never was possible to cut taxes, raise defense spending, and balance the budget by 1983, as Reagan said it was, without cutting or eliminating domestic spending programs the vast majority of Americans, including at least a plurality of Republican voters, probably a majority, would insist on keeping. Among other things, it would have been necessary to make deep cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and military pensions, and to eliminate farm and business subsidies.

    Republican lies about the revenue building benefits of tax cuts for the rich are the reason why the national debt, as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) are the reason has grown from 32% at the end of the Carter administration in 1980 to 136% at the end of the Trump administration.

    https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287
     
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    Harris: Relief package passed to fund public policy programs

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    Kamala Harris acknowledged part of the $1.9 trillion stimulus package was aimed at passing social spending policies and not coronavirus relief.

    Harris made the comment during a trip to Connecticut on Friday, describing part of the package aimed at funding things like child care. Reports said Democrats pushed Joe Biden to put a priority on child poverty, leading them to add $120 billion in social spending to the package.

    Republicans have repeatedly blasted the package for unnecessary spending.

    “This was the intentional purpose of the American Rescue Plan, which was to look at child care, to look at our child care workers, to look at our children,” Harris stated. “We cannot in public policy subordinate them, as you know, is because, I guess they’re little people, little problems.”

    Top Republicans have pointed out less than 9 percent of the so-called rescue package is going toward COVID relief.

    Democrats are also reportedly pushing additional spending packages with a potential price tag of $3 trillion.

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    Taken from the leftists play book...it's all about the children...
     
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  17. shootersa

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    No matter.
    Despicables are in power now, so they'll spend it like they've got it.
    And when anyone says anything their reaction is "where were you when your man was running up the debt"?
    You know, without knowing where "we" were when "our" man was running up the debt.
    When you don't like the question, divert. Always.
    Shooter for one was bitching when Obama doubled the debt to $20 TRILLION.
    Shooter was bitching when Trump signed the first "stimulus" package.
    Shooter bitched, saying Trump promised the debt would be paid off in 8 years and after 3 he had increased it.
    Shooter bitches now that the despicables are spending like drunken sailors in town after 4 years at sea.

    So.
    WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DESPICABLES ON THE DEBT???!?!?!?
     
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    They dont care about the debt, why would they be concerned about the debt of this shithole country.

    There has been way too much social injustice for way too long...too much income inequality for way too long...too much poverty for way too long..

    It's up to the federal fucking government to equal out all injustices on a global level on the backs of the selfish tax payers of the Western civilization.
     
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