Walt Whitman, Song of Myself

 

Pure coincidence but about 40 years ago my best friend and I were feeding our horses one evening and he was all pissed off and depressed at life and I picked up a blade of grass and told him to knock that shit off because while we knew it fed our horses, not even the scientists knew what made it live or why and yet there we were allowed to stand on it. About 35 years later he told me that seemingly senseless shit kept him from killing himself that night and maybe even a couple other times. And wouldn’t you know it, that he’d throw that bullshit back in my face the night I was feeling the same way he was so many years before. I don’t think, however, that had anything to do with him spending 35 years trying to get out of the grass business. But that’s a whole other story.

 

abortion right or wrong

have you performed abortion and sat with the lady before and afterwards

right or wrong

talk to the lady , you will see all shades of regret, pain and relief

why govt should decide the fate of women

female feticide, i abohr /dont do and feel morally wrong

 

Well, I'm sure glad you cleared all that up for us.

 

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It's a personal decision.

 

(sigh............here we go)

I believe life begins at or so soon after conception that in terms of abortion, the basis of the Roe V Wade decision is flawed.

That aside, I believe we are each guaranteed one life and one death. We have the obligation to make the most of the time in between. It is wrong on any basis for anyone to interfere with the time in between.

I do not agree with abortion. An aborted life has done nothing that would justify it's termination.

But the law is clear; it's the mothers decision. So be it.

 

1) Is abortion morally wrong?

I am divided on this. I have always been squeamish about abortion.

2) Should abortion be controlled by the government?

No.

3) Should abortion be such a big issue in politics?
Any issue that arouses strong emotions should be a political issue.


I was opposed to Roe v. Wade until I read Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt & Stephen J. Dubner. This book attributed the decline in the crime rate after 1990 largely to the Roe decision. The argument is that the kind of females who are most likely to have abortions are the same kind who are most likely to have boy babies who grow up to become criminals. Now I am in favor of government financed abortions on demand with no questions asked.

 

If a woman is raped and gets pregnant, should she have the right to an abortion, or should she have to carry the child till it is born, then put it up for adoption?
Now thta we can tell what diseases and illness a foetus can have, if a woman is having a child who will be physically and mentally handicapped, blind and deaf...should she have the right to terminate?
my answer ro both is yes, therefore
Pro- Abortion.

 

Yes.
No.
No.

 

I am very new here but feel the need to put a timid toe into this possibly hot water.
As a summation to the original question, I support what has been written above.
As a female I do become somewhat irritated by the self righteous who simplistically say "if SHE didn't want to conceive she should NOT have allowed the act which caused it." Yeah. Right. Hey guys we females can get carried away by the excitement of the moment just as YOU do. And if it's so easy to use protection, why don't YOU put something firmly over the end of it? You do not HAVE to inject your sperm into her, but having done so it has to be the sole prerogative of the female to make any decision regardimng abortion. Men, you keep out of it you have done your bit.

My greatest sympathy goes out to the young teens; for 13 + girls, carried away on emotions and sensations they have never previously known and to become pregnant is deeply saddening. But I was very lucky and did not become pregnant although I could have done. The sheer relief at seeing my next period was the one factor that helpled educate me and enable ME to say "NO" VERY VERY FIRMLY. The early teens is a dangerous learning experience for girls.

Adult females "should know better and take precautions" men so smugly and arrogantly say ... but is it not true for them too? Men can be VERY persuasive at the critical moment prior to insertion, and very often we want it just as much as he does (well I do anyway LOL.)

I'm very impressed at the wisdom evident in so many of these posts. It's a terribly difficult question. My answer is simple: it is HER decision and her's alone, but hopefully with help, supprt and guidance by family, church or whoever she has confidence in.

 

Find myself having to agree. I always think that men shouldnt have that big a say in the matter.

 

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.
"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."
"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."
"You've both got it wrong," said the rabbi. "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."

 

1) Abortion is not morally wrong, however, I think it's in everyone's best interests to cut down on the need for abortions. That means birth control that effective, safe and cheap or free, and comprehensive, age appropriate sex education in public schools.

2) I believe in Roe v. Wade. I think an abortion is a decision to be made between a woman and her health care provider. I have mixed feelings about parental notification laws. A minor girl can get pregnant without her parents consent and while an abortion is an outpatient surgical procedure, carrying a pregnancy to term is more dangerous than an abortion.

I do not agree on the ban on so called "partial birth" abortions. In the first place these are quite rare. In the second place, there are fewer and fewer healthcare providers that will perform them, so they are effectively banned in many parts of the country. While the partial birth procedure is gruesome, it is the safest method to deliver a fetus after the first trimester. The mother can develop health problems that could prevent her from continuing the pregnancy and some birth defects are not recognized until after the first trimester.

3) Abortion itself should not be a big issue in politics. What should be big issues in politics are the reasons that abortions are needed - lack of sex education, lack of safe, effective, cheap birth control, and an economy that forces women to have abortions for no other reason than they simply cannot afford to have the child.

 

My opinion:

1.) Abortion as a method of birth control is morally wrong.

2.) Abortion as a procedure to protect the life of an at risk mother, is quite moral. Aborting a fetus because of rape/incest, is a bit of a dilemma for me, but I lean towards the moral justification of it.

3.) The method used to perform the abortion is a medical decision. Once the abortion is deemed to be necessary, the safety of the mother is paramount.

 

let women decide

I support the right of a woman to decide what to do with her body and if she wants an abortion that is her business not mine regardless, even if I am the father.
I have seen some figures on where abortion is very available and the number of abortions. Seems a place where birth control is very restricted and abortions are difficult to get is where you find the highest number per 1000 people. The Scandinavian countries have some of the lowest abortion rates. Check out the numbers in the Bible belt of America.
Forcing a woman to have a child because she got pregnant is a very mean and misguided punishment of the woman. How does making a child live in horrible circumstances just to teach the woman a lesion humane? That is the most mean and wicked thing can imagine and anyone thinking like that disgusts me. Just like a saying a raped woman has to carry the child. People that push that idea are wicked.
The anti abortion people in America should be labeled as terrorists and the supporters should be treated the same as people giving money to the Muslim charities that have funneled money to Al Qaida. The anti abortion people in America have killed doctors and other, bombed buildings and threatened biological warfare on the nation. That is being a terrorists.
I do not dislike your Jesus, I hate your Christians they are so unlike your Jesus.

 

seems the crazies are at it big time

South Dakota's GOP-controlled House is considering a bill that would make it legal to kill doctors who perform abortions, by expanding the definition of "justifiable homicide" to include killings to prevent harm to a fetus. Wow, it's getting scary out there.

Go GOP have to get out my 6 guns and start to hunt doctors now.

This place is getting sick and the crazies are running the institution.

 

it's the persons desision and that's my answer on it.

 

Doesn't bother me at all, best to have an abortion then have 2 fuck up broke ass parents raise a half ass retarded shit child...it just pisses me off this obamacare wants everyone else to pay for the ghetto bitches abortions...not goin to happen though.

 

Don't believe everything you hear on Glenn Beck. There has been a ban on federal funding for abortion for decades, and nothing contained in the health care reform bill changed that.