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  1. anon_de_plume

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    That shooter can say this with a straight face and only one shot of whiskey is beyond laughable... Especially on this thread.
     
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  2. shootersa

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    More "facts" not in evidence from the peanut gallery.
     
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  3. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Nice try, but the accusation is the GOP welcomes neo-Nazis, not that they don't know how horrible Nazis are. It's not that they don't know, it's they don't care.

    The harshest admonition a neo Nazi will get from a Republican is "Stand back and stand by."
     
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    Attaboy. Flaunt that stupid. You've earned it, you worked hard for it, and by GOD you have a right to be proud of it.
     
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    I think its a great thread about something we need to think about and address. The Nazis aren't the only ones. Its happened before and since. We in the US also have our own genocide of Native Americans in our history And there have been many other horrible and atrocious genocides all over the world since. But if we want to keep it from happening again the Nazis are the most well documented and easily understood.





    My father and father in law wee both World War II vets. And especially my father in law fought with General Patton from North Africa to the Battle of the Bulge. And I think both of them never really talked about it until much later in life. And I also knew many other World War II veterans who were about the same.

    But when I think about the greatest generation I think of D Day and those gates dropping on the landing boats and those men charging out of them in the face of German machine guns and the Germans had better guns. I have always marveled at the courage and dedication that took.. But that took on even greater meaning to me when I watched a documentary of D Day veterans and they were asked how many of you thought you would die. And they all did. In fact they said they believed that was universal. None of the men landing thought they would be one of the lucky ones. And they went anyway. That still humbles me as I write this. We can never really repay that sacrifice. And must honor it by not letting it happen again.
     
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      Have no data to back it up... but I'd be willing to bet that the type of person who would support the Nazi's would also not see a problem with how we treated Australian Aborigines... that is to say - treating them like cattle (which they were classed as until the late 1960s), rounding them up and massacring them, etc...
       
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  6. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    When ad hominem is all you have left, you've conceded.
     
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  7. CS natureboy

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    Hitler connections are attributed to Democrats

    Remind me how Donald Trump is like Hitler again? If you watch the liberal propaganda media, you’ll think that low unemployment, higher wages, tax cuts and supporting the NRA is exactly the type of agenda Adolf Hitler would have.

    However, if you watch real media and laugh at the propaganda due to having a brain, you would have seen the real Hitler comparison on CNN’s seven-hour comedy special about climate change. Socialist-almost-leaning-communist Bernie Sanders actually spoke of decreasing the population to curb climate change. Now it would have been just the ravings of an old man if not for the cheers of the audience. These people actually heard a proposal that came out of the mouth of Nazi Germany leader Adolf Hitler years ago from one of the Democrat party front runners, and they cheered.

    If you’d like another Hitler example, I give you Kamala Harris. She openly supports gun confiscation from law abiding citizens. Now who took guns away from German Jews? It was, again, Hitler.

    So I ask the left, why do you support former Nazi German polices? You want government protection in exchange for sacrificing your liberties. Have you not learned by now that is true fascism?
     
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    Some random opinion pieces? No wonder you didn't give any attribution of the source!
     
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    This is actually right out of the Nazi playbook of always lying and falsely accusing others of that they are actually guilty of themselves.


    But we can see the Nazi playbook in other ways as well. First crate the "others" that can be used to blame for fear hate and anger. And then take over education banning books and dictating what can and cannot be taught especially about the "others."

    Students Will Sue DeSantis for Rejection of AP African American Studies

    Three Advanced Placement (AP) students will file a lawsuit against the state of Florida and Gov. Ron DeSantis for rejecting a proposed AP course in African-American studies, according to famed civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump. “By rejecting the program, DeSantis has made it clear he wants to dictate whose story does and doesn’t belong,” Florida House Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell said at an event teasing the suit on Wednesday. Fedrick C. Ingram, a representative of the American Federation of Teachers, also said the governor should be ashamed for his administration claiming the curriculum lacked value. Uproar has exploded nationwide over the rejection of the course, which as The Daily Beast reported, appears to have stemmed from a predictable right-wing concern about the presence therein of critical race theory, an academic framework regarding systemic racism that is basically never taught in K-12 classes. Rep. Michele Rayener called the use of the academic theory as an excuse to deny the course a “dog whistle.”

    Read it at WESH 2


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stude...ap-african-american-studies?ref=home?ref=home
     
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    When all else fails, play the race card.
    cmon stumbler, you can do better than this.
    Where in @CS natureboy 's post did he even mention race?

    But if this is really the best you can do you should have had anon post it.
    At least we'd expect something this silly from him.
     
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  11. Distant Lover

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    I am a much better racist than CS natureboy. :smuggrin:
     
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      CS Natureboy is no racist.
      But you already knew that.
      Shooter would have mentioned you as a candidate for stumbler's post, but Stumbler doesn't like you.
      Plus, you're smart enough not to post such drivel.
       
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  12. Distant Lover

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    For four years it was illegal to own a copy of Mein Kampf in Austria. For seventy years after World War II Mein Kampf was out of print in Germany. Now is is back in print in Germany, and legal in Austria.

    I read Mein Kampf. It did not do me any harm. I had a high regard for the Jewish people before I read the book. I still do. Hitler never really explained his hatred for Jews. He simply expressed it.

    He wrote that one does not capture a large audience with the written word, but the spoken word. One should appeal to emotions and values the audience already has, and one should restrict one's message to a few simple points that one continues to repeat.

    I would not want Mein Kampf to make the New York Times Best Seller List. I would not want the book to be banned either.

    Mein Kampf explains the popularity of the radio messages of Father Coughlin in the United States during the 1930's, and the more recent popularity of Rush Limbaugh. Many of Limbaugh's assertions were lies, but they were lies angry white people wanted to believe.

    Hitler used the same methods in his speeches. He told millions of Germans that Germany had been winning World War I, but that German Jews stabbed Germany in the back by fomenting a nation wide strike that crippled the German war effort.
     
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  13. anon_de_plume

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    I had read somewhere that Hilter read a shit ton of Nietzsche and Richard Wagner (writing very anti-semitic screeds using a penname).
     
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    Look, I admit, at first glance, Trump doesn't hold a candle to Hitler. Trump rambles incoherently with incredibly poor English skills when he speaks to an audience, whereas Hitler had an almost hypnotic ability to work a crowd into a frenzy.

    But Trump and Hitler both used the idea of making their country great again as a way of engaging disenfranchised voters.

    Both Trump and Hitler spewed hate against scapegoats - Jews / Mexicans - as a way of unifying the ignorant masses.

    Both Trump and Hitler used the media to spread their propaganda.

    Both Trump and Hitler used religion despite neither being religious - Jews and Muslims beware.

    Trump is a narcissist who needs people to admire him, and Hitler was likely Autistic and wanted to be seen as a genius.
     
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  15. CS natureboy

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    The FBI and the Justice Department have been used to keep the Democrat party in power. That is exactly what the Gestapo did for Germany’s Nazi Party and what the KGB did for the Soviet Union’s Communist Party. If anyone is looking for a comparison to Nazism, there it is...

    The very crime Trump is accused of (collusion with Russia) was actually committed by the Democratic Party in paying for Christopher Steele to travel to Russia and collude with Russian operatives to produce a phony dossier...... Talk about hypocrisy....

    As for being a "narcissist" Obama and Hillary Clinton hold the top honors in that category.....:thumbsup:

    As for being a racists'? I can show you quotes from biden promoting segregation in public schools and his alliance with KKK member and fellow Democrat Robert Byrd...

    Do you have any evidence Trump has ever done anything like that?????
     
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      The links you have posted are nothing more than opinion articles by leftwing journalist....

      I can show you actual racists policies by biden, along with him preaching hate and distain for anyone who opposes his radical leftwing agenda.
       
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      Links? (Of course, by the same rules as you've just said - nothing right wing...)
       
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  16. Distant Lover

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    I have a copy of Mein Kampf, which I have read. Hitler never mentions Nietzsche. His only mention of Wagner is to a statue of Wagner.

    Hitler seems to have absorbed some of Nietzsche's idea second hand: he read people who had read Nietzsche.
     
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      Hitler claimed to be an avid reader. In addition to my copy of Mein Kampf, I have an anthology of his speeches, and a copy of Hitler's Table Talk: 1941 - 1944.

      Hitler's Table Talk consists of comments Hitler made to associates and foreign dignitaries. These were written down by a secretary with Hitler's permission.

      In Mein Kampf, Hitler's speeches, or Hitler's Table Talk Hitler rarely mentions great writers.

      By contrast, the writings of Karl Marx are studded with mentions of and quotes from great contributors to the Western intellectual tradition. Marx quotes them to agree with them, or to present reasoned disagreements.
       
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    On one of the documentaries I watched was an Auschwitz survive who survived because when he got to
    Auschwitz he was young and strong. And the Nazis had to have young strong men to carry the bodies out of the gas chambers. Because when you are killing 4,000 people a day that's a lot of bodies.

    And he said it was always the same. They would watch the people being marched into the gas chambers many of them praying. A short time later the screaming would start. Then when the screaming stopped they would have to run into the gas chamber and the bodies would be stacked like a cone from people trying to crawl over each other. And many times a parent trying to give their child one more breath. And untangling them and getting the bodies out was really hard work. And if you couldn't to it then you died.

    But he said he still hears those screams every night. And wondered why God couldn't.

    This is actually a pretty powerful photographic piece worth seeing but I don't dare go to far into it.


    Photos show the horrors of Auschwitz, the largest and deadliest Nazi concentration camp, 78 years after its liberation
    Natalie Colarossi,Lauren Frias
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    An aerial view of the Auschwitz II-Birkenau extermination camp on December 19, 2019 in Oswiecim, Poland.Christopher Furlong/Getty Images
    • It has been 78 years since the Soviet Army liberated Auschwitz, the largest Nazi concentration complex.

    • First established in 1940, Auschwitz had a concentration camp, large gas chambers, and crematoria.

    • More than 1.1 million people were murdered at Auschwitz, including nearly one million Jews.
    It was the greatest tragedy of the Holocaust. In just five years, over one million people were murdered at Auschwitz, the largest and deadliest Nazi concentration camp.

    Auschwitz was established in 1940 and located in the suburbs of Oswiecim, a Polish city the Germans annexed. Between 1940 and 1945, it grew to include three main camp centers and a slew of subcamps — each of which were used for forced labor, torture, and mass killing.

    An estimated 1.3 million people were deported to Auschwitz during its five-year operation, and approximately 1.1 million were killed.

    The terror of Auschwitz finally subsided on January 27, 1945, when the Soviet Army liberated the remaining 7,000 prisoners from the camps.

    On the 78th anniversary of this liberation, these photos exhibit the horror and history of Auschwitz.

    Auschwitz was established in 1940 in the suburbs of Oswiecim, Poland. During its first year, authorities cleared 15 square miles for the camp.

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    An aerial view of the Auschwitz II-Birkenau extermination camp on December 19, 2019 in Oswiecim, Poland.Christopher Furlong/Getty Images
    Source: The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

    Auschwitz I, the first camp to undergo construction, was initially created for three reasons: to imprison enemies, to use forced labor, and to kill certain groups of people.

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    The crematorium near gas chamber one at the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz I in Oswiecim, Poland, Sunday, Dec. 8, 2019.Markus Schreiber/AP
    Sources: The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Auschwitz‑Birkenau Memorial and State Museum

    Construction of the largest camp, Auschwitz II, also called Auschwitz-Birkenau, began in October 1941. Electrified barbed wire divided it into 10 different sections.

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    The remains of brick stone chimneys of prisoner barracks can be seen inside the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz Birkenau or Auschwitz II.Markus Schreiber/AP


    Auschwitz-Birkenau's different sections were for "women; men; a family camp for Roma (Gypsies) deported from Germany, Austria, and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia; and a family camp for Jewish families deported from the Theresienstadt ghetto," according to the Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-show-horrors-auschwitz-largest-220636485.html



     
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  18. silkythighs

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    I don't agree that Hitler got the German "people" to kill for him. Hitler never won a "national election" Nor did he and the Nazi's ever pubilcy tell the people that conquering the world and genocide were was planned for the future.

    Also living in a "police state" doesn't allow for "opposition" of any kind. It's not easy living, when at any moment "jackbooted thugs" can come barging into your home. In those states. just keeping your head down going about your day is all one can do.
     
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      I've seen interviews of German people after the war and of course none of them were willing to admit they actually supported Hitler and the Nazis. But what a lot them said did make sense. Speaking out got you killed. And many of them gave the what;s the use excuse. That once Hitler and the Nazis seized power they just kind of threw up their hands and gave up. And then just went along to get along. Neighbors and family members could not even trust each other so it was better just to keep your mouth shut.
       
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      There were many assassination attempts against Hitler. A few came very close to succeeding. Some higher ranking officers were actively aiding the allies and acting as spies against their own country. The average German citizen didn't really know about the genocide. State media would never be allowed to talk about such things.

      Am I saying the german people are blameless, no. Evil exists in every country. But so does good. Many german soldiers committed suicide and suffered mental breakdowns. after being ordered to kill civilians. Many German Jews couldn't believe that genocide was actually a Nazi fundamental aim. Not until it was too late that is.
       
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