Stop your horseshit, you know as well as I know, Obamacare is a fucking political failure, an economic failure, and most importantly, a healthcare failure, that RR, is undeniable, there is plenty of factual evidence to support it.

'Obamacare', 'climate change,as well as the election of Obama,, is based on a lie.

 

if it is such a fucking failure financially and medically then provide evidence
because as of yet all you have is the bullshit rightwing extremist tripe of hate
grow up and stop being a fucking tebagger puppet

 

You are starting to show some ruffled feathers RR.

HAPPY READING,,,RR.

 

your list is all republican biased sites and based and therefore is not at all objective
and then the simple fact that you added anything that used rick perry as a contributor>that alone makes me think that you are too fucking stupid to even know what 1+1 is

 

Just on the local news this morning.
Electric rates will be raised 5% because of the rising cost of natural gas.
Imagine the increase in rates if we get rid of all coal fired plants.

 

Well then,,when I find a leftists in this country or another country that criticizes Obamacare, I will immediately announce it to you via PM.

Now if I were you,,dont hold your breathe waiting on that particular PM, yet, dont waste any time reading what I showed you.

 

You might as well be talking to a wall...........;-)

Trying to find any truth from Obama is like
nailing jello to a tree and
expecting it to stay..............

 

[h=1]Data problems found with 2 million ObamaCare sign-ups, document shows[/h]
Published June 04, 2014 Associated Press

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...re-sign-ups-document-shows/?intcmp=latestnews

 

New EPA regulations jobs, economy killer



Recent U.S. economic news has been nothing short of dreadful. While some experts were predicting 4 percent growth during the first quarter of the fiscal year, the actual rate for the quarter was originally pegged at only .01 percent growth. That was soon reduced to a negative .01 percent, meaning that the U.S. economy contracted during the quarter.

Of course the administration, as it usually does, offered up excuses, including the past winter’s dreadful weather. But the real cause of the dismal state of the American economy has been the economic policies of the Obama administration itself: job-killing regulations as well as fiscal and monetary policies that create uncertainty, leading businesses to forego hiring or investments. Recently, the Guardian’s U.S. economic and finance editor, Heidi Moore, wondered
“… with incomes down, housing suffering, and businesses still wary of hiring, where [will] growth…come from?”

One response should be energy. Thanks to technological innovations such as fracturing (fracking) and multidirectional drilling, the United States has already become the number one producer of natural gas in the world and is poised to attain the same status as an oil producer within five years. But the Obama administration, in thrall of the Democratic Party’s “green” energy, rent-seeking, crony capitalists, has engaged in nothing short of a war on oil, gas, and coal, the combination of which provides plentiful and relatively cheap energy for America.

Of course the best known example of this war has been the failure of the administration to approve the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline, intended to carry oil from tar sands in Alberta, Canada, connecting with existing pipelines that supply refineries on the Gulf Coast. But the most recent campaign in the Obama administration’s war against fossil fuels is a new regulation by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) that sets a national limit on greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired electrical power plants. Under the plan, carbon emissions would be reduced 30 percent by 2030, compared with 2005 levels.

Having failed to push his party’s “cap-and-trade” scheme when he actually had a Democratic-controlled Congress, the president now seeks to achieve his goal by resorting to what is essentially a “rule by decree.” On the one hand, this blatant attempt to achieve the goal President Obama could not achieve by law provides another example of this most lawless of presidents’ intention to run roughshod over the Constitution, the separation of powers, and the American form of republican government.

On the other hand the administration has delivered a vicious body blow to the U.S. economy. Of course, the cost of energy for consumers will rise but even worse, rising energy costs for manufacturers and other enterprises will place American firms at a competitive disadvantage, reducing investment, economic growth, and employment. Indeed, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, this regulation will kill 224,000 jobs each year.

The evidence increasingly illustrates that the Obama administration’s energy policy is explicitly designed to reduce access to fossil fuels by raising their price, thereby making “alternate” or “green” energy sources competitive. The administration’s approach is constantly on display: use government policy to raise oil and gas prices, subsidize alternative energy sources, then mandate the use of the latter. The EPA remains an important tool for implementing this policy.

The use of coal, oil, and gas for production of energy all involve risks and potential consequences for the environment. But that is also true of sources favored by environmentalists. Indeed, all human activity involves trade-offs in terms of costs, risks and benefits.

The proper way to proceed with any attempt by the federal government to impose new restrictions on energy production is to pass appropriate legislation. This requires that it be put to a vote in the House and the Senate, whose members are directly politically accountable to voters. The EPA is not a law unto itself, no matter what those who favor these regulations believe.

Mackubin Thomas Owens is a professor of National Security Affairs at the U.S. Naval War College in
 Newport, R.I.

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I'm sure Obama views the job losses as a good thing. It'll give Democrats a reason to argue for increases in welfare funding, while telling the "newly poor" how much they're looking out for them.

 

Only right wingers think Obama's plans will kill the economy. Green industries will more than compensate for the loss of coal jobs. Get with the future!

 

Traditionally, and historically,,it is a fact, nothing Obama has done or proposed has helped the economy, A BLIND MAN CAN SEE THAT.

Oh yeah,, the GREEN industry,the same industry that the tax payers helped with subsidies, and damn near every company that got federal grants, have gone bankrupt.

Green energy is fine as a 'supplement', but not as a solid source of proven effective, efficient and economically viable source of energy.

You need to get with reality.

 

My question is what is this 'edict' going to do to the economy of states like West Virginia where coal-production is the livelihood of so many ?

 

Back to making moonshine, is my guess.

OR,,, a future that resembles Detroit.

 

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They will have to evolve and find new occupations much like the buggy whip manufacturers did when the automobile industry took over.

 

It will take many years, if it ever happens, before solar will be able to provide more than just a very low % of electrical needs.
It will be very costly and most of the manufacturing will be done overseas.
It would help if all of the people against coal as energy made the effort to change over to some other source of electricity.
If it makes a difference others will follow.
Now is the time to walk the walk and cut out the bullshitting.
If you are still hooked to the grid and agree with getting rid of coal you are a the problem, not part of the solution.

 

Right, but in Ca, we don't have many coal powered energy plants. It's mostly hydro electric, natural gas, one nuke plant, geothermal, wind and solar. We don't have to go off the grid to promote cleaner air. We find cleaner sources.

 

But in many places there isn't any hydro electricity. Even if it was possible just look at all of the problems with building dams and lakes. The same people who want to get rid of coal would stop them from being built.
Natural gas is a good fuel. One main problem is the cost. Another is the availability. Natural gas plants have to use fuel oil when their natural gas is cut.
Geothermal is available in very few places and has many of the same problems as building dams and lakes.
Wind and solar might be alright for individual homes but the sun does not shine all of the time and the wind does not blow all of the time. This would increase the need for larger and more batteries.
Nuke plants are high priced to build but cheap to operate. That is until there is a melt down.
If there was a fuel that could take the place of coal that produced the same amount of power and cost about the same the people would go to it.
There isn't one and even if we find one it will take time to get it into use.
How many people should we cut the availability of electricity to when we get rid of coal. Who should be cut?

 

Poor old righties. So very scared of moving into the future.

 

Green Graveyard: 19 Taxpayer-Funded Failures

Total of Government’s Bad Bets: Approximately $2.6 billion

1. Abound Solar

Government’s Bad Bet: $ 790.3 million

2. Solyndra

Government’s Bad Bet: $570 million

3. A123 Systems

Government’s Bad Bet: $377.1 million

4. Ener1 (EnerDel, subsidiary)

Government’s Bad Bet: $182.8 million

5. Range Fuels

Government’s Bad Bet: $162.3 million

6. Azure Dynamics

Government’s Bad Bet: $119.1 million

7. Energy Conversion Devices (subsidiary, United Solar Ovanic)

Government’s Bad Bet: $110.3 million

8. Evergreen Solar, Inc.

Government’s Bad Bet: $84.9 million

9. Beacon Power

Government’s Bad Bet: $77.4 million

10. Raser Technologies

Government’s Bad Bet: $33 million

11. Nordic Windpower

Government’s Bad Bet: $24.6 million

12. SpectraWatt

Government’s Bad Bet: $20.5 million

13. Konarka Technologies

Government’s Bad Bet: $13.6 million (Heritage’s calculations), $20 million according to Konarka’s website

14. Satcon Technology Corporation

Government’s Bad Bet: $17 million

15. Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Co.

Government’s Bad Bet: $10.8 million

16. Stirling Energy Systems, Inc.

Government’s Bad Bet: $10.5 million

17. Thompson River Power, LLC

Government’s Bad Bet: $6.5 million

18. Cardinal Fasteners and Specialty Co., Inc.

Government’s Bad Bet: $480,000

19. Mountain Plaza, Inc.

Government’s Bad Bet: $424,000

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Some future!