AHA! It's those damn Republicans again; it's their fault! They forced us to pass defective and faulty legislation! Those rascals!

Oh, really? So we can afford the tax burden, but not the health premium?? How does that work? How does making my cost of healthcare a tax instead of a premium save so much money??

AHA! Another villain! Those greedy Health Insurance executives sucking the life out of us! Bastards!...................................Oh, wait, so instead of greedy insurance company bastards we'll have highly efficient, low paid, motivated government employees managing our health care. Got it.

.............And now it comes out. The Americans should feel bad about themselves, cause, you know, we're............Americans!

TWAT

Well darn, that is a good thing, cause you know, it's their system!

OH, so now we're supposed to settle for basic health care. Where do we go for the.........you know..........expensive treatments?? Canada??

And you don't think a whole new government agency, PLUS a lot more of those highly efficient and well motivated IRS minions will be any cheaper?? You think the fat cats in Washington won't get their cut??

Here's a list of the most profitable industries;http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/performers/industries/profits/index.html

Here's what it says; Public health and life insurance companies make a 4.6% profit. Managed health care makes a 2.2% profit. Mutual (owned by policy holders) life and health insurance companies actually loose 3%. Health care makes between 2.4 and 3%. Pharmacies make 19.3%

NOW who's your daddy??


Industry Rank Industry 2008 Profits
as % of
Revenues 1 Network and Other Communications Equipment 20.4 2 Internet Services and Retailing 19.4 3 Pharmaceuticals 19.3 4 Medical Products and Equipment 16.3 5 Railroads 12.6 6 Financial Data Services 11.7 7 Mining, Crude-Oil production 11.5 8 Securities 10.7 9 Oil and Gas Equipment, Services 10.2 10 Scientific, Photographic, and Control Equipment 9.9 11 Household and Personal Products 8.7 12 Utilities: Gas and Electric 8.7 13 Aerospace and Defense 7.6 14 Food Services 7.1 15 Industrial Machinery 6.9 16 Food Consumer Products 6.7 17 Electronics, Electrical Equipment 6.5 18 Commercial Banks 5.2 19 Telecommunications 5.1 20 Chemicals 5.0 21 Construction and Farm Machinery 5.0 22 Insurance: Life, Health (stock) 4.6 23 Information Technology Services 4.5 24 Computers, Office Equipment 4.3 25 Metals 3.9 26 Wholesalers: Diversified 3.5 27 Insurance: Property and Casualty (stock) 3.3 28 Specialty Retailers 3.2 29 General Merchandisers 3.2 30 Health Care: Pharmacy and Other Services 3.0 31 Packaging, Containers 3.0 32 Beverages 2.9 33 Engineering, Construction 2.7 34 Health Care: Medical Facilities 2.4 35 Health Care: Insurance and Managed Care 2.2 36 Petroleum Refining 2.1 37 Food and Drug Stores 1.5 38 Pipelines 1.5 39 Wholesalers: Health Care 1.3 40 Semiconductors and Other Electronic Components 1.0 41 Energy 0.9 42 Home Equipment, Furnishings 0.7 43 Food Production 0.6 44 Wholesalers: Electronics and Office Equipment -0.3 45 Diversified Financials -0.6 46 Motor Vehicles and Parts -0.7 47 Insurance: Life, Health (mutual) -3.0 48 Hotels, Casinos, Resorts -4.5 49 Automotive Retailing, Services -7.9 50 Forest and Paper Products -9.6 51 Entertainment -10.0 52 Real Estate -13.4 53 Airlines -13.5

 

I see why people go into government, to loot america without punishment.

Bottom line here is this: based on the colorado info obamacare is no more affordable than insurance was before obamacare. Now we just have to pay billions per year for government administrative costs to fine everyone that still don't make enough money.

Obamacare is the biggest scam ever forced onto the american people by the criminal congress that has definitely turned on the people for self benefit

 

By George I think he's got it!!

 

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Falling down on the job? Look how long it took you to get here to spam the thread

 

Here you go!
Find out everything you ever wanted to know about Obamacare, and see what you will end up with when it goes into effect.

For me, I cannot get private insurance at any cost. Says so right in the Health Insurance market place.

Anyway, here you go, see what Obamacare means to you

http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Health/HealthInsurance.shtml

 

Just think how great it must be

 

I have to agree with you on this one. I think our government will profit on this too by kick back made to them from the insurance co.

 

I was disabled in 2011....now I have $21.00 in food stamps....WTF!!!!!!:wall:

 

If you're white that explains a lot. I too have medical issues and because I am white i have been completely denied every time i requested help. I have small kids and the best thing they offered to do for me was sell my home for tax money i couldn't pay. I hate all government with every available ounce of hatred i can muster

 

well that was a joke...

 

If someone can afford it but doesn't have health insurance coverage in 2014, they may have to pay a fee. They must also pay for all of their care.

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Starting January 1, 2014, if someone doesn't have a health plan that qualifies as minimum essential coverage, he or she may have to pay a fee that increases every year: from 1% of income (or $95 per adult, whichever is higher) in 2014 to 2.5% of income (or $695 per adult) in 2016. The fee for children is half the adult amount. The fee is paid on the 2014 federal income tax form, which is completed in 2015. People with very low incomes and others may be eligible for waivers.

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See "What if someone doesn't have health coverage in insurance in 2014?" for more information.

How can I get an estimate of costs and savings on Marketplace health insurance?
... The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services did not participate in the
creation of this calculator.

 

Success!

Your account has been created.

With this account, you can use the Health Insurance Marketplace to find health coverage that fits your budget and meets your needs.

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Well I have compiled so far....

However I expect to pay the fee--(penalty) of $95
but I will be old enough for medicare soon after that

However this law has fucked up Medicare from what I have read...

 

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You're now on your way to getting health coverage! Beginning October 1, 2013, you can use this account to complete your application and shop for plans in the Health Insurance Marketplace to find coverage that fits your budget and meets your needs.

You'll be able to compare important features of available plans side-by-side, all of them offering a full package of essential health benefits. You'll also learn if you qualify for lower costs on your monthly premiums and out-of-pocket costs.

You can see what your total costs will be before you enroll. The application, plans and prices will be available October 1. In the meantime you can take a look at the information below to help you get ready.

 

plans and prices will be available October 1. In the meantime

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Well I will keep you guys updated on my Progress
if this thread is still alive on Oct 1-----

so far No fucking answers.....as expected...

 

Oh, btw it said (In the meantime you can take a look at the information below to help you get ready.)

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But there was no information Duh...


if anyone can find some please inform me and show me where....

Oct first is about 45 days away....

 

If you're 28 years old and earn min wage around $20,000 per year, would you pay $85 per month for health insurance?

If you and your spouse are 30, you have two kids, and earn $40,000 per year, would you pay $276 per month for health ins that covers all four of you?

There is a federal credit that is taken right off the monthly premium that you people aren't figuring in.

 

They might as well be figuring it in. The net benefit of the subsidy will vary by locality; it reduces each year, and it remains to be seen whether it will offset the real difference in premium costs as they rise-- or more likely-- as small employers drop coverage.

In Massachusetts, socialized insurance was supposed to be "affordable." It is crazy here. $276 for a family of four? NOT in Massachusetts. Try dividing $18,000 per year by twelve and see what you get.

I have to hand it to the machine that has promoted Obamacare: they have done a bang-up job of painting it with a veneer of complete fantasy.

The question is, what is going to happen when it fails to deliver?

Massachusetts has experienced depopulation pressure every year, ever since Romneycare went into effect. Obamacare is worse. A lot worse. And there is nowhere to run.

 

the shit i looked at for colorado is in no way affordable for someone on minimum wage. The government is lying about it being affordable, most people are going to have to get a second job just to pay for the damn insurance. Obama don't give a damn if you die of malnutrition from not eating so as long as you got fucking insurance. Minimum wage people are fucked. Obama don't care about the poor people no more than any other millionaire