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  1. 1 Toy Maker

    1 Toy Maker Kuns og Kram Smukke Love once found never lost

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    I guess we wait and see what happens on monday
     
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  2. ace's n 8's

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    Does it really matter?

    If that Senator would have voted no, that would split and Pence would need to vote, that vote would have went to the GOP and still, the federal fucking government would still be shut down.

    If that Senator voted yes, the federal fucking government would still be shut down...

    Essentially...it's a win win for the federal fucking government shutdown.
     
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    2. shootersa
      No, NO NO!
      Ridge is taking a page from Shooters immigration reform plan.
      Take away the incentives for people to come here illegally.

      If one is here illegally they;
      Cannot hold a job
      Cannot own or rent property
      Cannot drive
      Cannot receive free public education
      Cannot receive free medical care beyond emergency care sufficient to stabilize them while they are sent back to their home country.
       
      shootersa, Jan 21, 2018
    3. msman
      Try doing even one of the things on the list and see how much the politicians cry.
      According to the law they are not supposed to do any of those things right now.
      You are beginning to sound like a racist to me.
       
      msman, Jan 21, 2018
    4. ace's n 8's
      Some illegal immigrants , better known as career criminals are not interested in a Job, not interested to own or rent property, not interested in driving legally, not interested in a free education, not interested in receiving free healthcare.

      Their only interest is remaining a career criminal.

      Prisons/jails are polluted with them, and we are still paying for their illegal immigration to this country.

      Your anti-incentive program is something that I fully support, have for years, yet there are always those unsavory characters.
       
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    5. shootersa
      Indeed, many illegal immigrants are unsavory characters and need to be run out.
      The thing is, until Trump, those unsavory characters were able to stay, in some cases, for years, standing right alongside the otherwise good immigrants who would make good citizens, and probably should be made citizens.
      After they address the illegal crossing of our border part.
      So, yes, first take away the incentive to come here illegally in the first place.
      Second, sort out the illegals here now, including DACA kids. If they will make good Americans, make them Americans. If not, send them back where they came from.
      Third, make the immigration process more clear and efficient, and by GOD, make the application process start in our embassies overseas. Can't apply for immigration once you're in the US.
      Fourth, require bonds for visa applicants. You know, so they don't overstay their welcome.
       
      shootersa, Jan 22, 2018
    6. msman
      Right now the politicians are too far apart. One side wants open borders with the few remaining tax payers in the U.S. supporting the immigrants.
      The other side wants to call a halt to the whole thing until we can get a handle on it.
      There will not be any agreement.
       
      msman, Jan 22, 2018
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  3. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    The Republicans own the House and won't consider any Democratic bills.
    The Republicans own the Senate and won't consider any Democratic bills.
    The Republicans own the White House and their ambulatory signing hand will pass anything the House and Senate can pass.

    The Republicans own this and every other face plant they've made in the past year.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Why, change the names around; insert Democrat where you see Republican and vice versa and you have an exact replay of Obama's first two years in office!
      Imagine that!

      We need a fucking revolution to get those knuckleheads back on track.
       
      shootersa, Jan 20, 2018
    2. imported__2355
      It has long been obvious to anyone with more than three synapses holding hands that the domination of our legislative system by a single party is detrimental to our democracy. While the holder of the Oval Office can be very helpful in setting the course and agenda of our foreign and domestic policies, it is the legislature that writes and reconciles the bills and budgets that keep it running. When a single party has control of this they invariably attempt to grab every vestige of power they can, usually resulting in overreach and locking the other party members out of any decision making process. Then when their behavior alienates their opponents to the point where cooperation becomes impossible, they cry that the other side won't join in the rubber stamping of their foolishness. What we need are more Independents, beholden to neither the Democratic nor the Republican parties who can break these deadlocks before they devolve into more idiocy.
       
      imported__2355, Jan 20, 2018
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  4. ace's n 8's

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    The GOP voted to block spending...yes, the GOP owns it.

    Good for them.

    Shut the mother fucker down.

    Just as it's more important for the left to allow illegals to remain within the borders, illegals that are the tax payers responsability, yeppers, the left loves to spend your money, whether you like it or not.
     
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  5. 69magpie

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    Does this mean that donnie can't get down to Golf-a-lago for another "well deserved" :rolleyes::rolleyes: holiday.
     
    1. ridgerunner
      nope the GOP saved daca for now and the dems caved
      2 republicans did vote no though
       
      ridgerunner, Jan 20, 2018
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  6. JimmyCrackPorn

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    Yeah, because when 45 out of 51 Republicans (actually only 50 with McCain out due to illness) can't make 60 votes (the required number for the resolution to pass), it must be all their fault.


    I love how you just make shit up without ever bothering to check if you're comments are even in the same galaxy as the truth.

    FORTY-ONE HUNDRED DEMOCRAT-SPONSORED BILLS came to the floors of the House and the Senate with a good many of them enacted and signed by the president.


    democrat sponsored bills 2017.jpg
     
    1. imported__2355
      If you are incapable of convincing anyone of the merits of your argument beyond pure partisanship, perhaps it is because your argument has no merit.
       
      imported__2355, Jan 20, 2018
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  7. ace's n 8's

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    4,100 bills?....4,100 bills!??.....4,100 mother fucking bills?!!?....in one mother fucking year?....4,100 bills????.

    ....shut the mother fucker down...
     
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  8. JimmyCrackPorn

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    But...but they're filing sensible, selfless bills. Like this one, for instance (which has pretty much had ice water poured on it considering Trump's recent checkup).

    stable genius act.jpg
     
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  9. ace's n 8's

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    That bill should have included all representative of te federal fucking government....especially HIGHLIGHTING democrats from PA...

    4,100 bills?, it's time to pass a bill stating that Congress only convene for 3 WEEKS out of the year.
     
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  10. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Has it occurred to anyone else, if Hillary had won the election, we would still have a shut down government at this point, thus showing how ineffective Trump is as a President.
     
    1. msman
      Sort of shows the opposite. There was going to be a shutdown no matter who won the election.
       
      msman, Jan 20, 2018
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  11. freespiritx

    freespiritx DreamWeaver

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    But by the tone of his tweet, he thinks it's all for "how successful his presidency has been" ! :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    The Trumpian Bald Spot Revealed:

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    1. shootersa
      Attaboy!
      An excellent and well thought out contribution to this thread.
      Your momma must be proud.
       
      shootersa, Jan 21, 2018
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  13. ace's n 8's

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    Are you volunteering because it's warm down there?
     
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