Cheney: Mike Pence is in 'discussions' with J6 panel about testifying

Bob Brigham
August 19, 2022



Gage Skidmore.


The vice chair of the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol said staff have been in discussions about testifying.

"If there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it," Pence said in New Hampshire on Wednesday.

"It would be unprecedented in history for the vice president to be summoned to testify on Capitol Hill. But, as I said, I don’t want to prejudge ever any formal invitation rendered to us," Pence said. "If there were ever any formal invitation rendered to us, we'd give it due consideration, but my first obligation is to continue to uphold my oath, continue to uphold the framework of government enshrined in the Constitution."

Cheney was asked about Pence by ABC News chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl in an interview set to air on Sunday.

Karl asked if the select committee had asked Pence to testify.

"So we've been in discussions with his counsel," Cheney revealed.

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"I didn't see his specific comments this week, but it sounds like they were pretty similar to what his counsel has been saying," Cheney said. "And I think, look, he played a critical role on Jan. 6. "If he had succumbed to the pressure that Donald Trump was putting on him, we would have had a much worse constitutional crisis. And I think that he has clearly, as he's expressed, concerns about executive privilege, which — I have tremendous respect, I think it's hugely important constitutional issue, in terms of separation of powers. I believe in executive privilege, I think it matters, but I also think that when the country has been something as grave as this was, everyone who has information has an obligation to step forward."

"So I would hope that he would do that," Cheney said. "I would hope that he will understand how important it is for the American people to know every aspect of the truth about what happened that day."

Cheney also said it is possible the select committee will seek testimony from Trump under oath.

Watch below or at this link.



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We have to use our decoder rings to understand the meat of the story.
"in discussions" translates to "we're working out what we'll let him say, and what we'll censor him over"

 

Trump aides grilled about alleged secret talks to remove him under the 25th Amendment at J6 hearing: report

Matthew Chapman
August 23, 2022



Gage Skidmore.


On Tuesday, The New York Times reported that investigators on the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol are interviewing former Trump administration officials about alleged secret talks to remove the former president under the 25th Amendment in the wake of the attack.

The 25th Amendment is the part of the Constitution that allows a majority of the Cabinet to declare the president unfit to exercise the duties of office and remove him from the position.

"The panel has been holding closed-door interviews with senior Trump administration officials in an effort to uncover more about the period between Jan. 6, 2021, when a mob of Mr. Trump’s supporters attacked Congress, and Jan. 20, when President Biden was sworn in, including talks about invoking the 25th Amendment," reported Luke Broadwater and Maggie Haberman. "On Tuesday, the panel interviewed Robert O’Brien, Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, for several hours, according to two people familiar with the committee’s work."

"Investigators asked Mr. O’Brien about discussions inside the cabinet about whether to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office; about whether he considered resigning; and about the access that Mike Lindell, the MyPillow CEO and election conspiracy theorist, had to Mr. Trump, according to a person familiar with the matter," said the report.

Experts had previously suggested such a line of questioning was likely weeks ago. Trump himself has raged against the prospect, claiming that people wanted to invoke the 25th Amendment every time he had a "great idea."

"The committee’s investigators have also taken testimony privately from Mike Pompeo, the former secretary of state, about the former president’s state of mind around the time of the attack and his fitness for office. They also questioned him about discussions that he reportedly had with Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary, about the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment after the attack," noted the report. "Mr. Pompeo was evasive in response to the committee’s questioning, according to a person familiar with his interview."

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You can read more here.


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A question;
These are closed door hearings held in classic star chamber secrecy.
The only people able to "leak" events in the star chamber inquisitions are those present.
The star chamber members and their staff and the "witnesses".

Does anyone think a witness is the leak?
Does anyone think any leak out of the star chamber is anything but despicable propaganda?

 

Mob funding!?



Thinskin

 

Arizona GOP chair says ‘thousands’ will be implicated if J6 committee looks at her phone: report

Bob Brigham
August 30, 2022



Mike Cernovich, Tomi Lahren and former State Senator Kelli Ward / Gage Skidmore


The chairwoman of the Arizona Republican Party argued that thousands could be implicated if a federal judge does not quash a subpoena from the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"That will inevitably lead to the questioning of, and further subpoenas issued to, the thousands of Republicans in contact with plaintiffs," Kelli Ward attorney Alexander Kolodin argued in a new filing, the Tuscon Star reported Tuesday.

U.S. House of Representatives' general counsel Douglas Letter noted the Department of Justice was not seeking the content of conversations, just the meta-data.

"There can be no greater interest than investigating the first attempt to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power of its kind in our nation's history," Letter argued.

Ward, who was an alternate Arizona elector with her husband Mark, was subpoenaed by the select committee in February.

The subpoena cited a July 2021 report by Arizona 12 News correspondent Brahm Resnick.

"We need you to stop the counting," the article quoted Kelli ward as texting Maricopa County Board's then-chairman, Clint Hickman.

The subpoena said Ward, "apparently spoke with former President Trump and members of his staff about election certification issues in Arizona. In addition, after the election, you sent out messages suggesting that the November 2020 election had been 'stolen' and posted a video advancing unsubstantiated theories of election interference by Dominion Voting Systems along with a link to a donation page to benefit the Arizona Republican Party."

The select committee wrote, "On December 14, 2020, you apparently acted as a purported Electoral College elector to meet and ultimately transmit to Congress a set of alternate Electoral College votes, which you described as 'represent[ing] the legal voters of Arizona.' And, after former President Trump and others encouraged Vice President Pence and members of Congress to prevent or delay the certification of the Electoral College votes during the Joint Session of Congress, and during the attack on the United States Capitol, you wrote on Twitter, 'Congress is adjourned. Send the elector choice back to the legislatures.' We would like to better understand these, and other, statements, events that you witnessed or in which you participated, and communications we believe you may have had with national, state, and local officials about the outcome of the November 2020 election."

U.S. District Judge Diane Humetewa has not set a date for a hearing.

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How the January 6 Committee ‘may have the goods’ on Newt Gingrich

David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement
September 02, 2022



Newt Gingrich


Longtime Republican disruptor Newt Gingrich, Senior Advisor to then-President Donald Trump Jared Kushner, and longtime campaign advisor Jason Miller conducted an email discussion about posting ads falsely disputing the results of the 2020 election, according to a letter sent to Gingrich by the U.S. House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack.

"The goal is to arouse the country's anger," Gingrich said in one email, the Committee states in its letter which asks him to testify voluntarily and preserve all related documents.

The Committee says it also has evidence Gingrich was "involved in the fake elector scheme."

Even in the hours after the violent but failed January 6 coup, the Committee says Gingrich "continued to push efforts to overturn the election results," and emailed Mark Meadows at 10:42 PM.

Attorney and Professor of Law Anthony Michael Kreis says it "sounds like the January 6th Committee may have the goods on Newt Gingrich orchestrating part of a broader conspiring to solicit election fraud and/or commit unlawful interference with election administration under Georgia law."

In its letter the Committee writes it "has obtained information indicating that you have knowledge about former President Donald J. Trump's efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, and we write to seek your voluntary cooperation. Some of the information that we have obtained includes email messages that you exchanged with senior advisors to President Trump and others, including Jared Kushner and Jason Miller, in which you provided detailed input into television advertisements that repeated and relied upon false claims about fraud in the 2020 election."

"These advertising efforts were not designed to encourage voting for a particular candidate. Instead, these efforts attempted to cast doubt on the outcome of the election after voting had already taken place.," the Committee's letter to Gingrich reads. "They encouraged members of the public to contact their state officials and pressure them to challenge and overturn the results of the election. To that end, these advertisements were intentionally aired in the days leading up to December 14, 2020, the day electors from each state met to cast their votes for president and vice president," the Committee adds.

"Among the numerous emails you exchanged regarding purported election fraud, you wrote on December 8, 2020, urging Donald Trump's campaign to air advertisements promoting the false narrative that election workers had smuggled suitcases containing fake ballots at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, Georgia. This email shows that you provided line edits to the scripts used to produce television advertisements and suggested that the advertisements include a 'call-to-action' of pressuring state officials. You specifically pushed for national advertisements to include false allegations about what you called the 'suitcase scandal.'"

https://www.rawstory.com/january-6-...sting-he-was-involved-in-fake-elector-scheme/

 

Thousands!?



Thinskin

 

The purpose of the January 6th commission is to put Trump and hundreds of his supporters into prison. I wish the commission would stop fooling around and do it.

 

I cannot see Mr Teflon ever going to prison!

Thinskin

 

We keep waiting for the smoking gun.

 

Jan. 6 Committee will soon reveal new evidence uncovered since last public hearing

Travis Gettys
September 12, 2022



House select committee official photo.


The Jan. 6 House Select Committee faces some momentous decisions with 16 weeks before it dissolves.

Lawmakers are considering whether to seek Donald Trump's testimony and still hoping to negotiate an interview with Mike Pence, and they still must decide what to do with Republican lawmakers who've defied their subpoenas, as the next round of public hearings are about to be announced, reported Politico.

“Each member of the committee has things that he or she really wants to continue to pursue over the next few weeks, based on the work that we did before the recess,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), a member of the panel. “People want to make sure that we fortify the democracy against coups and insurrections, political violence and other efforts to usurp the will of the people."

The Justice Department investigation of Trump's possession of top-secret materials at Mar-a-Lago has complicated matters, and a federal grand jury has accelerated its investigation into the former president's efforts to overturn the election, which a Georgia special grand jury is also probing.

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Those investigations have also put pressure on the select to committee to share its transcripts of witness interviews, and panel chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) has indicated they will release most, if not all, of those publicly, although it's not clear when that would happen.

The committee has not yet agreed when to release its comprehensive final report, and Raskin recently said the panel planned "at least two more blockbuster hearings," including one this month, but all of its work will soon conclude as staffers leave their jobs as part of the normal transition that accompany midterm elections.



https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-committee-news/

 

Jan. 6 committee member reveals they've received new evidence in trove of documents and texts from Secret Service

Sarah K. Burris
September 14, 2022



United States Secret Service on Facebook.


The U.S. Secret Service has been under fire since a summer report that they scrubbed their phones and other systems without backing them up despite being told to preserve documents. Now it's being revealed that there's more information being turned over to the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.

The Secret Service has long said that they were corroborating and they didn't need to be subpoenaed. Robert Engel and Tony Ornato both testified behind closed doors to the committee, but it was before White House aid Cassidy Hutchinson spoke publicly and recalled conversations she'd had with Ornato. It was reported by CNN that Ornato was working for the Secret Service at the time he was working behind the scenes to undermine Hutchinson. He has since "retired."

Speaking to MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) indicated that there is a lot more the committee has learned about the Secret Service than the public is aware of. Lofgren wouldn't give details, but she said that they've been able to gather a trove of information from them.

"Are you still seeking the testimony of Tony Ornato and the other agents?" asked Wallace. "I remember you sharing with us, have obtained private counsel."

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"The answer is yes. We will do that in an orderly fashion when we have had an opportunity to review the large amount of documentary evidence that has now come in from the Secret Service. It's important that we get that information reviewed before we reinterview him," said Lofgren.

"Do you have new evidence that wasn't at your disposal at the time of the last public hearing ended?" Wallace asked.

Lofgren simply said that the committee does have new information.

"Care to categorize any of that?" Wallace asked.

"No," Lofgren said flatly. "You know our rules don't allow us to categorize or discuss the evidence, but new information has come in. And some of it is very pertinent. Some of it is less relevant, but it's been a large volume of information that we really pressed hard for the agency to release. They should have done so before we had to issue subpoenas earlier this summer. But there's now a very steady flow of data coming into the committee and it's a huge amount. It takes a little bit to go through it all."

Wallace went on to ask about the text messages that were deleted even after they were told to prepare to turn over information. Wallace asked if there were other sources for those texts.

"I didn't say what specific types of information. I mean, I really am not at liberty to do that under the committee rules," said Lofgren. "There's texts, there's e-mails, that's radio, there's all kinds of information. So, we're going through everything that's been provided. More is coming in. As I say, some of it is not relevant and some of it is. And it's a huge slog to go through it, but we're going to go through it. And the members of the committee themselves have been involved in this. And we hope to have that completed soon."

See the interview clip below or at this link.




https://www.rawstory.com/january-6-committee-secret-service/

 

Which brings up the question; did the agents who refuted the story about Trump lunging for the steering wheel ever get to testify before Nancy's star chamber? Will we ever know all of what they said, or will we just get the "leaks"?

And who, we have to ask, is deciding what's "relevant" and what isn't relevant. A rhetorical question; we already know who decides what counts and what doesn't, when a star chamber meets in secret.

 

Oh, pretty much he only answers the questions he can spin to his agenda.
Shooter is expecting him to want to play with Shooters challenge to anon (now that anon has proven he's a coward) and Shooter is all set to provide the proof, and expects stumbler will claim it's fake, or he didn't say that, or whatever.
But, it still proves the point Shooter made so he's good with that.

 

Listen: J6 releases evidence of how Oath Keepers reacted to Trump in real time on Jan. 6

Bob Brigham
September 15, 2022



Department of Justice image.


Audio of Oath Keepers responding to a tweet from Donald Trump was released by the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"The Select Committee has obtained a recording of communications over a walkie-talkie app among Oath Keepers who were inside the Capitol and others who were sharing intelligence from elsewhere," the select committee announced on social media. "Listen to how they reacted to President Trump’s 2:38 tweet in real-time."

Trump's Twitter account was deleted when he was permanently suspended after the attack, but his messages were preserved by the American Presidency Project at the University of California Santa Barbara.

"Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement," Trump tweeted. "They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"

A person read the tweet over the walkie-talkie app.

Another person responded, "That's saying a lot by what he didn't say."

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"He didn't say not to do anything to the congressmen," he added, with a laugh.

"Well, he did not ask them to stand down," another person noted. "He just said stand by the Capitol Police, they are on our side and they are good people. So, uh, it's getting real down there. I got it on TV and it's, it's looking pretty friggin radical to me."

"CNN said that Trump has egged this on, that he is egging it on and that he is watching the country burn two weeks before he leaves office," the man continued. "He is not leaving office, I don't give a sh*t what they say."

Another man reported they were inside the Capitol.

"We are in the main dome right now," the man said. "We are rocking it. They're throwing grenades, they're fricking' shooting people with paintballs, but we're here."

A man replied, "God bless and godspeed and keep going."

Micah Loewinger, a reporter at New York Public Radio's "On the Media," recorded the communications on an open channel named “Stop the Steal J6."

Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy defendants Jessica Watkins, Stewart Rhodes, Kelly Meggs, and Kenneth Harrelson have sought to exclude the Zello walkie-talkie app messages from being introduced at trial.


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That code they been trying to break is finally exposed!
Jesus.

 

So first of all, the source is behind a pay wall.
But what the hell, lets see if we can figure out this "Trump lunged for the steering wheel" story.

So this Hutchinson person testified that she was told that on January 6 Trump "lunged for the steering wheel" when the Secret Service refused to take him to the capital so he could "march with his supporters". Problems with this testimony are;

• Hutchinson was not there. She said she was told this by Tony Ornato, who has in turn denied he ever talked to Hutchinson about that and that it never happened.
• Hutchinson's testimony is hearsay, which is not admissible in court, whether given under oath or not, and which is strong evidence the Jan 6 committee is a show and not a real hearing.
• The agents present at the time Trump's lunge supposedly happened, Bobby Engle and the limo driver, have denied that Trump lunged for anything on January 6 and have stated they are willing to testify to this under oath before the committee.
• The agents previously did testify before the committee, and no "lunge" was apparently mentioned. The committee has "asked" for their presence to testify again, but they now want to discuss other topics that could involve totally different legal issues, so the agents have "lawyered up". That the agents have lawyered up is, according to despicables, evidence that they lied when they refuted Hutchinson and are now avoiding having to testify under oath. The thing is, if the committee really wanted the truth they'd subpoena the agents, lawyers be damned, and get to the truth of the matter. More proof the committee is anything but a truth seeking operation.
• Anyone familiar with the full sized Chevrolet Suburban Trump was riding in that day recognize how ridiculous it would be to think a fat, old fart like Trump could "lunge" for the steering wheel from his seat in the back. We could easier contemplate Nancy Antoinette lunging for chocolate from her recliner in the family room.
• That Hutchinson, let alone any other witness, is not and cannot be cross examined without the committee chair's approval first, is further evidence this is a star chamber operation.
• That the testimony before the committee is "secret" and only released through leaks from "unknown sources" is really telling.
• The committee has promised for over a year that they will get to the "smoking gun" evidence of a conspiracy to overthrow the government, let by President Trump. They have failed. The FBI concluded a year ago that there was no evidence of an insurrection and the committee is hard pressed to refute this, but an allegation of the President "lunging" is great press and infers that he was in fact trying to lead a revolution on January 6. No matter that the evidence of said lunge is hearsay and already refuted by witnesses who were there. It's good press. And it detracts from the failure of the committee to come up with anything not already uncovered by the FBI/DOJ investigations that, by the way, have resulted in over 800 indictments for the January 6 rioters, and to date, a single not guilty ruling out of the hundreds of cases that have been settled.