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  1. EroticaLady

    EroticaLady Sex Machine

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    The DEA is only going after businesses that have ties (implied or real) to organized crime including the cartels. Most Colorado pot shops are not affected by those raids.
     
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  2. Rixer

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    I disagree. Marijuana has been safely consumed for thousands of years and it isn't going away. Alcohol brings a lot of serious problems to society including violence, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths daily, hungover workers, liver disease to mention a few. Marijuana consumption doesn't have these consequences. As adults, we should have the right to make the safer choice.

    You misunderstood what I meant. I was saying that regulating marijuana like alcohol was better and safer for our kids than having it sold by street gangs. Big difference. I don't advocate marijuana use for kids. Regulated weed means ID's would be checked and weed wouldn't be sold to minors in those stores. It also means that regulated stores won't sell meth or other hard, processed drugs. Illegal street dealers sell all drugs to anyone. I don't know why in the world you would support that.

    That said, I've seen young kids get drunk and kill themselves and their friends on the roadways. As a former cop, I'm sure you've seen your share of that also. If MY teenage son was going to do some partying behind my back, I'd rather he smoked a joint to be honest with you. I'd be more confident he would come home alive.
     
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  3. Lioness

    Lioness A Fun Flirty Frisky Friendly Felion

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    How to tell if a driver is too high to safely drive? You just wave a bag of Crunchy Cheetos in front of them and if they scarf them all down within a few minutes then get a fit of the giggles, they're high!! They will also be driving very s---l---o---w---l---y. :p
     
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  4. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    openly i can say that i do not advocate the use of marijuana for anyone but i also understand the effects it has on a society
    illegal anything allows a criminal trade that undermines the efforts of parents, schools, law enforcement, and even the corrections efforts to stop or at least limit the contraband but animals are programmed to seek intoxication
    cats have their high from catnip and humans have drugs, alcohol and extreme sports

    earlier today i was reading that registrations in colorado for hemp farmers was taking place and i asked my brother who lives there to sign us up to grow a crop for a test

    the benefits of legal marijuana outweigh the risks
    tax income
    new business
    reduction of expense on legal action and policing
    reduction of the criminal element from cultivation and distribution
    medicines
     
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  5. EroticaLady

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    I've made it clear that I'm an avid user of marijuana in the form of vaporization and/or edibles. So with my bias clearly stated from the beginning...

    I'm not clear as to what the risks are. The whole "gateway drug" is entirely inconsistent not to mention easily debunked (caffeine, tobacco, alcohol for starters). I've smoked / vaped with a lot of people in my life and for those only partaking in marijuana, I'm yet to see a violent episode much less hear of a legitimate pot-only rage. While I will agree there is a psychological impact from heavy use, the physical symptoms are pretty much non-existent and people can quit cold turkey w/ only a few restless nights of sleep deprivation before going back to "normal".

    I'm not a fan of anyone driving under the influence of any intoxicant but I'll tell you straight up I'd rather see a stoner on the road than some white-collar uppity douche nozzle on his cell phone and suburban (says the suburban-ite) 4-door sedan because at least in most cases, pot instills a healthy dose of paranoia for the casual user when it comes to driving. At worst they'll be doing 35 in the 55 and thinking they're about to break the transwarp barrier (nerd alert!!!!).

    Obviously we don't want kids using it so I'll agree that legalization sends a conflicting message there but we've had to deal with this and alcohol for decades. The US has that component of the equation completely wrong. But I'm just failing to see the overall negative consequences especially given that a vast majority of smokers are fairly casual in their usage and while smoking anything is not good for your lungs, if you vaporize the THC or ingest hash oil mixed with chocolate, I'm yet to hear of any truly negative side effects or cause for concern (unless you have high blood pressure, there is a legit issue there).
     
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  6. ridgerunner

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    the "gateway" bullshit was derived because of the fact that at times the weed was hard to get to and people still wanted that feeling so they resorted to what was available for the most part

    some people believed that they were addicted to it but there is as of yet any evidence of any case of addiction to marijuana
    but the opposition has effectively used the few cases of progression to ensure the failure of all legalization attempts
     
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  7. WantToBeYours

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    I think that all but the most severly 'red' states will have it legalize within the next year. Colorado made weed legal and within a month had made more then 7 million just in tax revenue. As idealistic and think headed as some people are, money is still teh deciding factor in this country.
     
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  8. ridgerunner

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    no state has made marijuana legal as of yet because they do not have the right to supersede federal laws which still hold it as illegal
    the best they have done is to decriminalize it and ignore small use and possession
     
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  9. InTheMindsEye

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    I think, that if I wanted to find out if and when my state would legalize the production and controlled distribution of marijuana, the first place I would go for information is a porn website.

    Sure, the state legislature and all of its departments may have some of the answers but who could be better informed than a bunch of hairy palmed degenerates masturbating furiously at their desks with their pants around their ankles? No one, that's who!

    So, on that basis, can you tell me when I can start buying my weed at the local apothecary?

    Thanks
     
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  10. shootersa

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    You didn't catch my point either. Marijuana will end up being legalized; the trend is clear. I don't agree with you however that it is safer than alcohol or, for that matter, tobacco.
    You are correct; I cleaned up far too many wrecks and told far too many parents their kid wasn't coming home again. Alcohol was the drug of choice for most of them because marijuana and other drugs were harder to come by and carried a far more serious penalty. The outcome was the same; an inexperienced driver, impaired ability, the "I'm bulletproof" attitude, and tragedy was the result far too often.
    Supporters can tout the 'benefits" of marijuana VS other drugs, and I keep asking "why do we need another drug?"
    We don't.
    It will be legalized, kids will get hold of it, and the tragedies will continue.

    And you didn't respond to my point that we are all twisted around controlling tobacco, but legalizing another drug that is most commonly smoked. Does'nt that strike you as ironic?
     
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  11. Rixer

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    I'm not trying to change your mind shooter. Your opinion is your opinion, I simply want to point out that I don't believe for one minute that marijuana is as dangerous as tobacco or alcohol. That is the point here. I don't have to tell anybody here about the dangers of alcohol. We've all seen it up front and personal not to mention the news reports every day that involve booze, rage and roadway deaths. Tobacco kills over 450,000 people per year in the US alone. Marijuana? Nobody in the history of mankind has died from consuming marijuana. A professor named Dr. Taskin at UCLA was sure that marijuana caused cancer and studied it for over 30 years. To his surprise, he found NO LINK what so ever between weed and lung cancer, not even among heavy users. Now I do agree that putting smoke in your lungs isn't good for you but there are alternatives such as vaping, edibles, tinctures, etc. and they have been proven to be safe for consumption with little if any harms. With more education, I think more people will turn to these alternative methods rather than smoke it. I have.

    Anyhow, kids being kids will likely get it if they want it no matter what is done. They always have, even though it is illegal. You can't really stop somebody if they want to get it whether it's against the law or not. What you CAN do is parent your kids about marijuana the same as you would parent them about alcohol and tobacco. It's the only way.
     
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  12. power123

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    I agree. Those people who choose to use weed will never believe the effects. Smoking is bad for your health no matter what the substance being burned. Weed acts different on different people. Not everyone is the laid back, snacking, happy person. Those who say weed does not lead to other drugs do not know what they are talking about. It is the mind. It is addictive. Weed has no effect on me. Try being the only person in the room that is not high. You will see what pot does to their common sense.
    I really don't care if it becomes legal or not. It doesn't matter to me. From what I have seen I will not allow any person on my property that uses weed. Just not worth the risk.
     
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  13. Rixer

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    It's funny how people are so against something they know nothing about..:rolleyes:
     
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  14. power123

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    It doesn't have any effect on me so I just can't see the attraction. I feel the same about smoking tobacco. Addiction is something I understand a little better. Can't see becoming addicted to anything.
     
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  15. Rixer

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    I respect that, it's your choice.

    Marijuana is a little less addicting than caffeine though . Do you drink coffee?
     
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  16. power123

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    Sometimes. I can take it or leave it. I have seen way too many people addicted on different things. Some people would not even think were addicted unless they knew them.
     
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  17. Captain Scarlet

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  18. AFriendlyMainer

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    Is there consensus on the medicinal properties that marijuana has?
     
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  19. ridgerunner

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    the easy answer is no
    and reason is that the idiots in control refuse to allow any research program a fullscale experiment that could last beyond 3 years
    there are medical marijuana tests done on mice and the effects but those are separated from the actual effects on people

    i do not use weed and never have although i have tried it
    i will not lie about it i was 27 years old and i had 2 puffs
    all it had an effect on was my equilibrium
    but then again when i used to drink the alcohol was more of an influence on balance and speech
    there are recent studies that show that the canabanoids are effective in cases of seizures and chronic pain, stress, and post traumatic stress disorder
    but the opposition pays "scientists" to publish anti-pot "facts" that say that it contributes to psychosis
     
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  20. Rixer

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