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  1. Corey Stapleton

  2. Donald Trump

  3. Nikki Haley

  4. Vivek Ramaswamy

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  1. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Gee I wonder who's embarrassed now?


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    Colorado Supreme Court bans Trump from the state’s ballot under Constitution’s insurrection clause
    NICHOLAS RICCARDI
    Tue, December 19, 2023 at 4:16 PM MST·3 min read
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    DENVER (AP) — The Colorado Supreme Court on Tuesday declared former President Donald Trump ineligible for the White House under the U.S. Constitution’s insurrection clause and removed him from the state’s presidential primary ballot, setting up a likely showdown in the nation’s highest court to decide whether the front-runner for the GOP nomination can remain in the race.

    The decision from a court whose justices were all appointed by Democratic governors marks the first time in history that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment has been used to disqualify a presidential candidate.

    “A majority of the court holds that Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,” the court wrote in its 4-3 decision.


    Colorado’s highest court overturned a ruling from a district court judge who found that Trump incited an insurrection for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, but said he could not be barred from the ballot because it was unclear that the provision was intended to cover the presidency.

    The court stayed its decision until Jan. 4, or until the U.S. Supreme Court rules on the case.

    “We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” wrote the court’s majority. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”

    Trump’s attorneys had promised to appeal any disqualification immediately to the nation's highest court, which has the final say about constitutional matters. His campaign said it was working on a response to the ruling.

    Trump lost Colorado by 13 percentage points in 2020 and doesn’t need the state to win next year’s presidential election. But the danger for the former president is that more courts and election officials will follow Colorado’s lead and exclude Trump from must-win states.

    Colorado officials say the issue must be settled by Jan. 5, the deadline for the state to print its presidential primary ballots.

    Dozens of lawsuits have been filed nationally to disqualify Trump under Section 3, which was designed to keep former Confederates from returning to government after the Civil War. It bars from office anyone who swore an oath to “support” the Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against it, and has been used only a handful of times since the decade after the Civil War.

    The Colorado case is the first where the plaintiffs succeeded. After a weeklong hearing in November, District Judge Sarah B. Wallace found that Trump indeed had “engaged in insurrection” by inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and her ruling that kept him on the ballot was a fairly technical one.

    Trump’s attorneys convinced Wallace that, because the language in Section 3 refers to “officers of the United States” who take an oath to “support” the Constitution, it must not apply to the president, who is not included as an “officer of the United States” elsewhere in the document and whose oath is to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution.

    The provision also says offices covered include senator, representative, electors of the president and vice president, and all others “under the United States,” but doesn’t name the presidency.

    The state’s highest court didn’t agree, siding with attorneys for six Colorado Republican and unaffiliated voters who argued that it was nonsensical to imagine the framers of the amendment, fearful of former Confederates returning to power, would bar them from low-level offices but not the highest one in the land.

    “You’d be saying a rebel who took up arms against the government couldn’t be a county sheriff, but could be the president,” attorney Jason Murray said in arguments before the court in early December.


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-supreme-court-bans-trump-231600028.html
     
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  2. latecomer91364

    latecomer91364 Easily Distracte

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    The Colorado Supreme Court has just made ultra-partisan fools of themselves and revealed that they don't honor the law or the Constitution. Their 'integrity' and credibility are gone forever.

    Deeming that Trump can't be on the ballot because he 'committed' a crime that he has never even been charged with - let alone found guilty of will most certainly be torn to shreds by SCOTUS.

    If anybody in the general electorate is left that doesn't believe the Democrat Party hates them and lusts only for power, this will be the proof they need.

    Colorado is a solidly Blue state - these Supreme assholes have done more damage to the left than they can imagine, and for what?
     
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      Had the United States actually had a real and unquestionable Election , beyond doubts of voter fraud and false slanderous against the candidates, possibilities of tampered voter boxes or supposed ballot counting errors from certain States in the past 5 Elections, the American people wouldn't have felt the need to storm the capital, with or without Donald Trump's involvement.
       
      majorripples81, Dec 25, 2023
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  3. Barry D

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    Colorado spent a lot of time and money just provided the greatest example of an exercise in futility.....
     
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  4. stumbler

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    As always Clarise you don't even have a clue what you are talking about.





     
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  5. shootersa

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    self promotion aside, we have to ask the american hater what, exactly, has been accomplished with this case?
    First, the appeal court's decision appears fatal on it's face. Both it and the trial court decisions start with the assumption that Trump participated in/led an insurrection but no court has properly ruled that to be a fact. The trial court could not and did not consider evidence surrounding that allegation.
    Second, the way the appeal court's ruling is written, Trump will still be on the Colorado ballot in 2024, assuming an appeal is filed to SCOTUS, which they have said they are doing.
    Third, even in Trump were left on the ballot in Colorado, he would not win. Colorado is as solidly blue as California and will never vote to elect a deplorable, much less Trump. Removing him from the ballot is therefore an exercise in futility. But you already know that.
    Fourth, your assertion that @latecomer91364 speaks from ignorance is incorrect, unfounded, and mean spirited. Why don't you just address your issue with his post and leave the personal attack at the door?
     
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    2. submissively speaking
      Aw punkin.
       
    3. latecomer91364
      What was that? Did I just hear a brainless camp follower with nothing to say?
      I mean, it's not like that would be unusual...
       
      latecomer91364, Dec 21, 2023
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      LOL

      You couldn’t ignore me if you tried, Bitterness. Have fun following me around. ;)
       
    5. latecomer91364
      Narcissism much?

      But, goodnight. my time does not allow me to waste more than the time I've already spent here with a Troll the likes of you.

      Ta-ta, Ms. Nothing to say...
       
      latecomer91364, Dec 21, 2023
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  6. mstrman

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    He can't because as usual he has NO POINT! He's not smart enough to make a point!
     
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  7. stumbler

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    This an interesting take on the Colorado Supreme court decision that I had not caught.



    The 3 crucial words missing in Trump ballot case

    David Cay Johnston, DCReport
    December 20, 2023 5:09PM ET


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    The Colorado Supreme Court decision Tuesday, barring Donald Trump from the 2024 Republican primary race, ignored the three most relevant words in the 14th Amendment. That almost certainly will greatly benefit Trump in his effort to regain the White House despite his failed coup in 2021.

    Don’t expect to hear these three crucial words cited before the United States Supreme Court, which Trump says he will ask to take up the case, or to be the focus of mainstream news reports for reasons I’ll explain.

    The Colorado challenge, one of nearly 20 filed so far, hangs on the 14th Amendment’s lifelong ban on holding office for anyone who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion.”

    The 1868 amendment ensured that traitors who joined the Confederacy would never hold any office — federal, state or local — unless granted forgiveness by the grace of Congress.

    The Colorado case, brought by six Republicans and one independent, argued that the 14th Amendment’s ban on holding office applies to Trump because he riled up a mob outside the White House and sent them to the Capitol two miles away.

    By 4 to 3, the Colorado Supreme Court agreed with this argument. The dissenters don’t dispute that Trump motivated the attack, but argue that Trump was neither charged nor convicted of insurrection, which some United States Supreme Court justices are sure to latch onto, rejecting the idea that the 14th Amendment prohibition on holding office is self-executing.

    But proving insurrection or rebellion is a much higher standard than our Constitution requires. That’s because the 14th Amendment prohibition also applies to anyone who gave “aid or comfort” to rebels and insurrectionists.

    That Trump gave aid and comfort to the coup attempt is indisputable.

    For more than three hours, Trump did nothing to stop the mob sacking our Capitol, shouting “hang Mike Pence,” calling for the murder of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and injuring 150 police officers in his failed attempt to overthrow our government.


    Trump didn’t call on federal law enforcement or summon readily available National Guard troops.

    Instead, Trump “gleefully” watched the attack on television in a room just off the Oval Office. Stephanie Grisham, the White House press secretary, testified that he even rewound some scenes of violence that he considered especially gratifying.


    Because appeals deal with issues raised in lower courts — not issues that could have been or should have been raised — the U.S. Supreme Court is unlikely to examine the “aid or comfort” standard.

    The high court will face a sticky problem, at least for justices like Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, who claim to act based on the plain meaning of words when they were written into our Constitution. Under their legal reasoning, Trump clearly cannot be on any ballot, the words “aid or comfort” being crystal clear.

    Of course, Thomas should recuse himself given his wife’s declared support for the insurrectionists. Don’t count on the man who eagerly accepts lavish trips and money from billionaires with interests before the court to find his long-lost ethics.

    Other 14th Amendment cases are pending in nearly 20 states. More are likely to be filed. Lawyers in those cases could include “aid or comfort” as a backup argument.

    Should the U.S. Supreme Court leave Trump on the Colorado ballot through the legal convenience of sending the matter back to the Colorado courts for further consideration, that will leave time for other cases to proceed. If that happens, there is a good chance that the easily established “aid or comfort” standard will determine Trump’s fitness to be on any ballot in 2024.

    https://www.rawstory.com/3-crucial-words-missing-in-trump-ballot-case/
     
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  8. shootersa

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    "That Trump gave aid and comfort to the coup attempt is indisputable."
    This is incorrect. But, you're entitled to your opinion so we'll just leave it at that.
     
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      “We love you, you’re very special.”
       
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  9. silkythighs

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    So shooter, tell us what Trump was protesting about on Jan 6th?

    Simple question, eh
     
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  10. shootersa

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    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
     
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  11. Barry D

    Barry D Over-Watch Commander

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    Polly Parrot.....
     
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  12. silkythighs

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    Poor shooter. Runs aways yet again. cat-running-away.gif
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    Few Republicans primary candidates have the courage to criticize Trump because they know that Trump has a cult like following among the gaping hinds of fly over country.

    Nevertheless, Republican presidential candidates are privately hopeful that that the foul mouthed, dishonest, vulva grabber goes to prison, so that they will be the second choice of the unwashed denizens of the fever swamps of the GOP.
     
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  14. shootersa

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    If thats true trump has nothing to fear.
    Because to get trumps endorsement, and with that his "cult" to follow te candidate will have to agree to a pardon for trump.

    Goddam you despicables are idiots.
     
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  15. odi144

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    Saw a video on YouTube that truckers are refusing to drive through Colorado, refusing to pick up or deliver loads in Colorado.

    Any truth to this space cat?
     
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      Even if the independent driver's were to support a Colorado boycott, the major fleet companies wouldn't risk that kind of revenue being lost.
      Personally in my opinion, if drivers across the board were to ORGANIZE a shutdown of even 3-4 hours all at the same time, just pull off the roads and park for a specified length of time, at the same time, that simple and AFFORDABLE show of organized inspired commitment, would in my opinion, be enough to demonstrate to Colorado, what they, and the rest of the Nation could potentially face at the hands of Truckers alone, if the consideration of some different thought processes are not implemented.
       
      majorripples81, Dec 25, 2023
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  16. shootersa

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    Why the boycott?
    Cause trump "lost/didn't lose" a court case?
     
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      Because Colorado won't allow his name on the ballot.

      Since you live there I thought you would know about this.
       
      odi144, Dec 25, 2023
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  17. shootersa

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    Not in colorado at the moment, in california......
     
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  18. silkythighs

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    Well it's now the trumplican party. So speaking out against der fuhrer is verboten. Name me a single repuke candidate who publicly refuted Trump's election fraud lies?
     
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  19. Distant Lover

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    If Trump is our next president he will not spend his time in office improving lives for the poorly educated fools he pretends to love. He will spend his time getting revenge on his enemies.
     
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  20. Lxv200

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    It will be like the night of the long knives in Nazi Germany when Hitler went after the brown shirts
     
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