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  1. Triangle_7

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    Tear down the pyramids - Racist! / Conservation of historical antiquities.

    Sorry Indiana Jones

    I really mean sorry bro -In 2023 we all have to cringe before Biden and his vile cohorts.

    Tear them down! ( muh dick / looting)
     
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    I will come back to this when I have more time. But for now here was Trump the day after the Iranian attach.



    Good morning. I’m pleased to inform you: The American people should be extremely grateful and happy no Americans were harmed in last night’s attack by the Iranian regime. We suffered no casualties, all of our soldiers are safe, and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...e-attack-full-statement-and-transcript-096196



    That was a blatant and deliberate lie and Trump knew it was a lie when he said it. There is no way in the world the US Commander in Chief would not have been informed US troops were being flown to foreign countries for treatment of Traumatic Brain Injuries after a missile attack everyone knew was coming in advance.

    And you backed that lie, defended it, and lied about it yourself. Just like you continue to do and I do mean to this day.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Another clown who needs to learn history.

    Mississippi: Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth… These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.
     
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      I was afraid you were going to put the high heels to him over that.
       
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    Texas: The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations.
     
  5. anon_de_plume

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    They'll use religion and God to justify anything!
     
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    Georgia: The prohibition of slavery in the Territories, hostility to it everywhere, the equality of the black and white races, disregard of all constitutional guarantees it its favor, were boldly proclaimed by its leaders and applauded by its followers.

    With these principles on their banners and these utterances on their lips the majority of the people of the North demand that we shall receive them as our rulers.
     
  7. stumbler

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    What you are best @shootersa is denying all proof, obfuscating, talking in nonsense circles and trying to baffle with bullshit.

    So lets go back to the original point






    I have proven that point beyond any reasonable doubt. In fact you have proven it again just with your denials, making up excuses for Trump, and even lying about what happened yourself.

    And now I will address your last attempt to baffle with bullshit.






    As always one of your favorite tricks. Instead of arguing what has actually been said just make up something and argue that because its something you can deal with instead of what has actually been said.

    No absolutely not. The "crux of your (my)claim" is that after Trump illegally assassinated Iranian GenQasem Soleimani to avoid all out war between the US and Iran the Iranian regime had to do something to save face with some kind of retaliation. So to avoid all our war Trump agreed to let them strike one of our military bases in Iraq as long as no US troops were injured or killed. Which is why everyone on the base was warned in advance the attack was coming so they could get into their bunkers and Iran did not actually hit the base itself. More into open fields. Which would allow Trump to claim since no US troops were injured and the base was not seriously damaged he could stand down and not retaliate again Iran.


    US troops in Iraq got warning hours before Iranian attack
    https://apnews.com/article/islamic-...al-news-iraq-ae79cb0f18f7adf15a2a57e88f469dd7

    But the Iranian missiles turned out to be far more powerful than anyone anticipated so even though our troops were inside their bunkers more than 100 of them suffered Traumatic Brain Injuries and several of them had to be flown out to other countries for treatment to save their lives

    11 US service members treated for blast injuries in Iran missile attack, military confirms
    The injured service members were transported to Germany and Kuwait.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...d-iran-bombing-prior-claims/story?id=68344638


    34 service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iran missile attack: Pentagon
    Half have returned to duty, 17 flown abroad to Germany and U.S. for
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/34-...aumatic-brain-injuries-iran/story?id=68509042


    Number of U.S. troops with brain injuries from Iranian missile attacks now 109
    The Pentagon announced Monday that 45 more U.S. service members were diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injury from the strikes on Iraqi bases, up from 65.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/milita...-injuries-iranian-missile-attack-now-n1134491


    Trump said no US troops were hurt in the Iran strike. The number is now up to 34.
    https://www.vox.com/world/2020/1/24/21080407/iran-missile-attack-brain-injury-pentagon-strike



    But sine there were troops injured with Traumatic Brain Injury, some of them life threatening, And you backed Trump's lies, defended them, made excuses for them and lied for Trump yourself.


    And you are going to sit there and try to tell us you give a hit about our troops?


    You always try to pull off pommy lying scams like this making a statement and then posting a video knowing most people won't bother to watch it and see for themselves it is nothing that backs up your statement about it.


    But it is especially disgusting and vile this time because you are lying about wounded US soldiers that really and truly do sacrifice everything to defend and protect us. And even knowing you like I do I don't see how you can sink that low.


    Al Jazeera, which really is one of the best news organizations in the world, is not "reporting" anything. All that is is a video of Trump's speech the day after the attack and the only one saying no US service members were wounded is Trump.

    Let me post this again from that speech.


    Good morning. I’m pleased to inform you: The American people should be extremely grateful and happy no Americans were harmed in last night’s attack by the Iranian regime. We suffered no casualties, all of our soldiers are safe, and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...e-attack-full-statement-and-transcript-096196


    That is Trump standing before the nation and deliberately and knowingly lying through his teeth to the nation. There is no possible way the POTUS and Commander in Chief of US armed forces does not know that while he is standing there saying no US troops were wounded we have at least 11 soldiers flown to other countries to receive lifesaving medical care for traumatic brain injuries and scores more with less severe TBS that still has to be
    treated. Luckily most of those wounded were not severe and they were cleared to return to duty. But many others had TBS that was so serous they could not return to duty and for some of them their wounds were so serous it ended their military careers.

    And there is Trump standing there lying to the nation about that. And here you are defending that lie, making up excuses for that lie, and lying about it yourself. And for God's sake @shootersa these are our own troops that were forced to be sitting ducks and got severely wounded doing it. And you say you care about them? You can't and prove the opposite. You do not give a fuck abut them and only care about supporting Trump no matter what he does.





    This is nothing more than when Trump told his original lie no US troops were injured he was forced to do what he always does which is keep telling more lies and chamging his story. But here again these are not the usual Trump lies. He is lying about wounded US service members and you are defending those lies, making up excuse for them and lying yourself about them

    And think about that. These are US soldiers that could only huddle in their bunkers with Iranian missiles raining down on them injuring their brains and you and Trump are saying they were not really seriously wounded. How can you do that to our own troops?

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    Now I have to admit @shootersa this is a pretty slick trick because to spot it people would have to both read it very carefully and also understand the differeince between repoirting and editorials.

    What you posted speficially refers to how to avoid plagerism in reporting. Which most certianly does require care When paraphrasing and/or summarizing others’ work,


    But that does not apply to editorals where you can say any fucking thing you want and expecially on a cocksucking porn forum that provides mor than just literary license. Ir allows pronographic literay license.

    The entire purpose of an editoal is choosing words that create impact on the reader. And I chose Trump more or less calling our wounded troops "pussies" to create that kind of impact. Becaue he ws lying through his teeth saying they were not seriously wonded. Which in my estimation is tantamount to calling them pussies.

    And if you do not like my estimation of that tough shit write your own fucking editorials. I stood by it when I wrote it and sure as fuck stand by it today.


    And here again you make an utterly false statement. I do not "hate" anyone or anything. That is someting I had to recognize and deal with to psychologically heal myself. Because "hate" is nothing more than a secondary reaction to fear. And fear left unconfronted and unresloved and taking the easy path to hate will fuck you up. It only results in an irrational cesspool of fear hate and anger that will dissolve from the inside out trapped in your own miserable existence

    What that demonstrates is my gut wrenching disgust and heart felt contempt for you and Trump lying about our wounded service members. Who literally have no choice. "Ours is not to question why but to do or die" is not some fucking cliche to them. That is their reality and very existence. The members of our armed services literally lay their lives on the line every second of every day all over the world to protect and defend us. And the very least we can do is honor and respect that sacrifice. And the very worst thing you can do is lie about it.








    Pure unadulterated psychological projection. I am the one presenting the facts while all you are doing is lying about our wonded service members. And you are entitled to keep pretending you care about them but proof abounds right here you do not.
     
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    But. . . You can't Learn from History by erasing it's reminders. we need to leave the monuments alone. The Good, bad and Ugly
     
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    No you teach history. But you don't honor what they stood for.
     
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      Yes, exactly! Leave the monuments in place and add information to share why said person was an evil being. Don't strip them from History. leave them up so we are reminded that the evil existed. Like Auschwitz the Germans Literally leave the camps in place so the world can see how evil they did what they did was
       
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    South Carolina: Those [Union] States have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States.
     
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    Absolutely not and hers why.. The Confederate statues and memorials and especial US forts named after Confederate generals do not reflect "history." In fact they are the opposite. They are nothing more than a corrupt attempt to try and rewrite history to allow southern states to create the false narrative the Civil was actually about state's rights, northern aggression and the noble "lost cause." Anything and everything to try to deflect from and bury the truth. The Civil War was for one thing and one thing only. The preservation of slavery.

    And we actually see the southern lies about the Civil War all over this forum and especially on this thread. Which cannot be tolerated. They cannot push lies about the Civil War because some people and states know fighting a war to persevere the enslavement of other humanbeings makes them look bad..

    Also if you want to talk about history lets look at some


    Confederate Statues Were Never Really About Preserving History


    By Ryan Best

    Confederate monuments by year dedicated
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    In recent weeks President Trump has railed against tearing down statues across the country — and has been particularly dogged in his defense of Confederate monuments. But his argument that they are benign symbols of America’s past is misleading. An overwhelming majority of Confederate memorials weren’t erected in the years directly following the Civil War. Instead, most were put up decades later. Nor were they built just to commemorate fallen generals and soldiers; they were installed as symbols of white supremacy during periods of U.S. history when Black Americans’ civil rights were aggressively under attack. In total, at least 830 such monuments were constructed across the U.S, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which maintains a comprehensive database of Confederate monuments and symbols.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/confederate-statues/




    And finally you are probably going to have to go out and buy yourself a new irony meter because you broke yours with your "You can't Learn from History by erasing it's reminders. ." You would have to be living under a massive and very dark rock not to know that is exactly what treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans are trying to do right now from coast to coast. They are trying to prevent school children from even learning the history of the Civil War and racism in this country and in some states literally outlawing it.






    First your article is more than three years old. And second it appears to be an obvious false flag. Why on earth would Black people or anyone on the left for that matter vandalize statures and memorials to Blacks who fought for the United States of America against the Confederates trying to preserve slavery. They were more like the original Black Lives Matter movement and literal warriors for civil rights.
     
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      Wow that's a whole lot of "here's why you're wrong" I
      I'm for changing schools and Government buildings names to more current namesakes. But the statues Need to stay put. they need to reflect "Here's this guy. he did evil things" and put down some info about how evil he was.

      It's so strange that you say "Republican this" and point at education. But for the life of me I can't remember ever having even ONE teacher in the public school system that wasn't a Democrat.

      As for the article that I posted about the fighting 54th's display. Yes. it's older. but you can't deny it happened. don't like the one I chose? do some of that amazing research you so cleverly pull out of your ass and read some other accounts.
       
      At00micAsh, Jul 9, 2023
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      Your obvious fallacy is first the Confederate statues were first built to reinforce White supremacy. And second they most definitely were a form of honoring traitors to the United States of America.

      That gives a false impression somehow the Confederacy was somehow honorable. When nothing about it was.
       
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      Also if you have a problem with removing Confederate statues hou need to take that up with the states and cities doing it. No one is forcing them to do that. That is their own decision to correct past wrongs.
       
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      Your personnel abecdote about your teachers seens off. How dolyou know they are Democrats? I never had a teacher claim a party. But i definitely had some that surr seemef conservative to me.

      And are implying Democrats can't accurstely teach history? Because i don't believe that.

      And again just look at what is happening right now wherr red states done want history taught
       
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    Louisiana:

    The people of the slave holding States are bound together by the same necessity and determination to preserve African slavery.
     
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    South Carolina

    A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery.
     
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    The Confederate cause was white supremacy. Plain and simple. Its defense of slavery was the sole cause of the war.

    Mississippi: Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery
     
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      But let's look at this claim. ", the south was already moving towards mechanizatio."

      What difference would that make? Wouldn't they still use slaves to run the machines and do all the other labor? Why pay a workforce if you have slaves?

      If the south became mechanized would they have just freed all the slaves whn they were worth abut $1,000 each and slavery was a $4 billion industry in 1860? Is that what you are telling us?


      Because that makes no sense at all.
       
      stumbler, Jul 10, 2023
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      Not only that, but there is no ONE definitive reason why the Civil War happened. There are those that claim it was over states rights, but then ignore that one of those rights the South demanded was the right to own other human beings.
       
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    If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that." Lincoln carefully noted that this represented his official position. Hell, there were more slaves in the north than ever existed in the south, but fuck it keep blaming the south.
    Why the hell is Malcom X more important to history than George Pickett? Erase the realities of the past and find that the future forgets the mistakes easily.
     
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    You are actually a good example of the efforts to try and rewrite the history of the Civil war cherry picking little details as if that has some bearing on the Southern states trying to tear the United States of America apart and starting a war to preserve the institution of slavery.

    And certainly George Pickett should be part of our history but it needs to be truthful. Picket, Robert E Lee and many others like them were traitors to the United Sates of America. The swore an oath as US army officers to ....



    ...I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.


    But instead they turned traitors against the Constitution and the United States of America and took up arms to fight a war to preserve slavery. That needs to be taught as part of our history.

    As does Malcolm X need to be taught as part of our history because as was said of him at the time Malcolm X was the only man that could stop a race riot or start one. But what makes him an even better candidate for history is in a way the was like Picket and Lee. As the leader of the Black Muslims he actually preached separation by race and a nation for Blacks. But what is really worthwhile to know about Malcolm X is his evolution where after making the Hajj, to Mecca he renounced his former belies because he found he had been lied to by Elijah Muhammad . Its a great example of how people can change and grow through education.


    Rea history also needs to be taught to combat the spread of misinformation such as "were more slaves in the north than ever existed in the south,"


    Throughout colonial and antebellum history, U.S. slaves lived primarily in the South. Slaves comprised less than a tenth of the total Southern population in 1680 but grew to a third by 1790. At that date, 293,000 slaves lived in Virginia alone, making up 42 percent of all slaves in the U.S. at the time.

    https://eh.net/encyclopedia/slavery-in-the-united-states/
     
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      Thank you, @stumbler......we keep stumbling forward, eh?
       
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      I am not rewriting anything I am spouting population fact, the idea that they were not labeled as slave and instead as domestic servants does not change the nature of their indenture.
       
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      I present you with the documented historical facts so you try to change your story. You are grasping at straws because what you said is provably false.

      Which is also proven by the 3/5ths compromise in the Constitution where southern states got to count their slaves towards Representatives in Congress. That was a special accommodation for the slave holding states when at the time only property owning White males could vote.
       
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    Texas: The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations.
     
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    How does this negate that southern states enshrined slavery into their constitutions?
     
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    And there's no shame in enshrining slavery into your constitutions? Hell, we should be naming military bases after their leaders, and erecting monuments to their racism.
     
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