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  1. FuntimeFla

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    The monuments of Confederate Generals were because of their military prowess, and the men who fought under them. Slavery and politics have zero to do with those monuments. They were War hero's in the South, and still are. If you want Unity, this is not the way to get it.!
     
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    The monuments went up after the federal troops left. The north was still very much racist too. So when the south started reasserting white supremacy. The northern states looked the other way and didn't interfere. At first federal troops protected blacks from the KKK and made sure blacks could vote. But once the troops left.The south was free to again terrorize blacks and keep them from gaining any meaningful political, economic or social power. The vast majority of monuments went up decades after the war to glorify the lost cause.
     
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      Revisionist History ! The Northern Army after what might be called "liberating blacks" had to blow up bridges behind them to keep the mobs of blacks from following them and begging for food. These blacks had no means to fend for themselves after being freed. Thus 150 years of stealing and looting to fend for themselves. The North did no favors for black people! NONE !!! Freed them and left them to their own devices.
       
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      Ok then if I were Japanese, I should tear down all the WW2 heroes? you are way off on making sense!
       
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    There's a Southern culture that all Americans understand, the Civil war is part of it, reenactments, museums, battlefields, none of which condones slavery,
    someone can be proud of their heritage and history without being racist, ...an American would understand that, intolerance wouldnt
     
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    The entire confederacy was based on protecting the institution of slavery.

    Article I, Section 9, Clause 4 “No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.”

    Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 guaranteed the right of slaveholders to freely transit and stay with their slaves unmolested within any state of the Confederacy. “The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States; and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.”

    Article IV, Section 3, Clause 3 established that in any new territories gained by Confederacy, slaveholders would enjoy the same property rights to their slaves as in the existing states. “The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.”
     
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      I suggest you look up the ordinances of secession. Every confederate state issued one. Read how many times slavery was mentioned as a cause.
       
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      I suggest that you get the realization , that monuments, are a sign of Respect for the Dead. You! Do not get the choice , to choose for others, who to, or not to respect in memorium. Simple concept!
       
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    The African American Civil War Memorial


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    African American's served on both sides !
     
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    The African American's in the South were as afraid of the Yankee's as the south was. The South unlike the North didn't send them into battle to get wiped out. They were to important. They were entrusted to guard payroll, supplies, and cook the chow for the fighting men. The North sent them as canon fodder! Who are any of you trying to fool?
     
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    America commemorates its war dead...


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    ...from both sides


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      What it doesn't say, is that, That man was a Confederate soldier who helped wounded Union soldiers!
       
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      Oops I had to read closer that the monument does indeed recognize him as a Confederate!
       
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    "The idea of enlisting Black soldiers had been debated for some time. Arming enslaved workers was essentially a way of setting them free, since they could not realistically be sent back to plantations after they had fought. General Patrick Cleburne had suggested enlisting enslaved workers a year before, but few in the Confederate leadership considered the proposal, since slavery was the foundation of Southern society. One politician asked, “What did we go to war for, if not to protect our property?” Another suggested, “If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong.” Lee weighed in on the issue and asked the Confederate government for help. “We must decide whether slavery shall be extinguished by our enemies and the slaves be used against us, or use them ourselves.” Lee asked that the enslaved workers be freed as a condition of fighting, but the bill that passed the Confederate Congress on March 13, 1865, did not stipulate freedom for those who served." History.net
     
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    "Black troops, however, faced greater peril than white troops when captured by the Confederate Army. In 1863 the Confederate Congress threatened to punish severely officers of black troops and to enslave black soldiers. As a result, President Lincoln issued General Order 233, threatening reprisal on Confederate prisoners of war (POWs) for any mistreatment of black troops. Although the threat generally restrained the Confederates, black captives were typically treated more harshly than white captives. In perhaps the most heinous known example of abuse, Confederate soldiers shot to death black Union soldiers captured at the Fort Pillow, TN, engagement of 1864. Confederate General Nathan B. Forrest witnessed the massacre and did nothing to stop it."

    After the war, confederate General Nathan B. Forrest went on to become the first grand wizard of the KKK.
     
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      No one attempts to justify the fantastical war crimes committed by the Confederates in Greeley’s false narrative of the Battle of Fort Pillow.

      If you lived in the North in April of 1864, you were on the fence with all this War business, and you read that 600 men were ruthlessly murdered while surrendering for nothing other than the color of their skin, you would be indignant, and rightfully so. If you had ten years of subtle indoctrination from Marx and Engels, and saw the entire war through a lens of Marxism, you may even march off to kill your brothers over a detestable lie.
       
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      The most vicious slander against Forrest, that is being repeated more and more frequently, is that he ordered the killing of surrendering black soldiers at Fort Pillow.

      Nothing could be further from the truth. First of all, Gen. Forrest was well known among the Union army for the generosity he showed to captured Union troops. Forrest spent the entire war capturing large numbers of Union troops. Usually they were immediately paroled for the prisoner exchange program. It was recorded by many Confederate and Union soldier alike, that Forrest often received applause and shouts of glee from Union captives when they were read their terms.

      In April of 1864, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest led 1,500 troopers to Fort Pillow along the Mississippi River. The fort was ripe for plundering with only 557 defenders, 262 of them a Negro militia regiment. Forrest rode up to the fort with a white flag of truce to negotiate a peaceful surrender of the fort.
       
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      As soon as Forrest reached the fort, a Union soldier shot at him killing his horse. This violated the rules of engagement under a flag of truce. It wouldn’t be the first time. As Forrest tried repeatedly to get the fort inhabitants to surrender, a second horse was killed and a third badly injured.

      By this time Forrest was badly injured himself, from having been thrown from three horses. Forrest had to be taken to the back of the lines. Even then Confederates returned under a flag of truce and delivered a note stating that the fort would be “easily taken” with minimum loss to the Confederates. Confederates informed the inhabitants of the fort that they would all receive Forrest’s gracious treatment as prisoners of war.
       
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      With Abraham Lincoln facing election defeat, he needed a new source of propaganda to vilify the South. When Lincoln got word of yet another humiliating Union defeat at the hands of Forrest, he ordered a committee of pro-Lincoln Congressmen to investigate the battle. It was determined that it would be good for Lincoln’s campaign if it was said that Forrest was standing on the front lines ordering his troops to kill members of the Negro regiment who were trying to surrender.

      Over 100 eyewitness accounts were collected by the committee operating in Cairo, IL. Almost all were thrown out because they did not support what the pro-Lincoln committee wanted. Even officers of the Negro regiment at Fort Pillow said that there was never an attempt to surrender to the Confederates.
       
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      The entire battle was over in less than twenty minutes. With stunning athleticism, the Confederates had formed human ladders to breach the earthworks. Within minutes, nearly 1,000 Confederates were inside the fort and half the defenders were dead or wounded. Much of the Negro regiment immediately broke and fled out the opposite side of the fort the instant Confederates poured in. This caused a stampede and crippled the entire Union defense. The same thing happened at Fredericksburg, only on a much larger scale.

      A completely libelous and outlandish report was drawn up and 40,000 copies were printed for distribution.

      The report declared that the Confederates, not the Union, had repeatedly violated the flag of truce at Fort Pillow. The report then claims that Confederates chanted “no quarter” and “black flag” as they stormed the fort. Then Forrest himself orders the troops to slaughter members of the Negro regiment. None of these claims are even remotely supported by the facts.
       
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    "While there are isolated instances of African Americans serving in the Confederate ranks, there is overwhelming evidence that this small number represents rare and exceptional cases: historian David Blight estimates that the number of black soldiers in the Confederate ranks was fewer than 200. That small number represents some partial companies of slaves training as soldiers discovered by Union forces after the fall of Richmond. One reason that only a handful of blacks fought for the Confederacy is that until the last weeks of the war, the Confederate Congress expressly forbade arming enslaved African Americans, who made up the vast majority of the black population in the South. Given white southerners' longstanding fears of a slave uprising (fears intensified by a few abortive attempts in the first half of the 19th century and exacerbated to the point of hysteria by John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry in 1859), the acute resistance of Confederates to arming blacks is understandable. Putting muskets in the hands of enslaved African Americans presented more than simply a concrete threat—embracing the notion that blacks could serve as soldiers in the same fashion as whites threatened deeply-held Southern ideas of race-based honor and masculinity. As Confederate Secretary of State Robert Toombs put it, "The day the army of Virginia allows a negro regiment to enter their lines as soldiers, they will be degraded, ruined, and disgraced."
     
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      Yep, The Propoganda perpetuated by the winners!
       
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    Sorry to have to (pardon the pun) blacken out an historic painting,


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    Where are the plagiarism police? Or do they only police the right side of the aisle?
     
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      Did you miss the quotation marks somehow?
       
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      No but I did miss the credit to the author.
       
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      If I said “Hey, I like what you wrote” do you think she’d say “Aw shucks t’weren’t nuthin’, ma’am”?
       
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      Yeppers I see another forum rule coming from the defacto moderator.
       
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      It’s called common courtesy, but then you probably don’t know what that is.
       
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    The Battle cry of the confederacy mentioned in song...make Billy Idol a racist I suppose

    In the midnight hour she cried - "more, more, more"
    With a rebel yell she cried - "more, more, more"
    In the midnight hour babe - "more, more, more"
    With a rebel yell - "more, more, more"
    More, more, more
     
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    Today Forrest remains one of the greatest heroes of the South. He was a self-made man, who accumulated a fortune from real estate and selling horses. When the Civil War was about to start, he was commissioned as a colonel. Using his own personal fortune he bought state of the art pistols and equipment for his original 600 man cavalry unit.

    Forrest’s tactics and training were so overwhelmingly effective, that the Confederacy repeatedly changed his command so he would have all different troopers. The Confederacy knew that he would whip each new batch into an elite force.
     
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      This statement is only partially True. He was a self made man, and unfortunately made some of it by slave trading. However he forbade whippings as cruelty, and forbade his overseer's to use the whip. However he sold his entire fortune to buy his commission
       
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