Russia, Ukraine, NATO and the US

Lxv200 · Feb 22, 2022

How a lot of people on both side's are going to be killed ,injured and lose there homes so 1 man can have his place in history. Like Stalin and Hitler.

pauldz · Feb 22, 2022

who really cares, 1/2 of them speak russian anyway, it's only a land grab for oil,

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

The reaction is swift.

Britain Says Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine ‘Has Begun’

The British government has broken ranks with the Biden administration by calling the Russia’s deployment of tanks and troops into Ukraine what it is: an invasion. On Monday, after the Kremlin ordered troops into two regions of eastern Ukraine run by Moscow-backed separatists, U.S. officials said the move doesn’t necessarily amount to an invasion because Russian troops have already been in those regions for years. However, speaking Tuesday morning, a top British government minister said it was clear that the Russian aggression qualifies as an invasion. “You can conclude that the invasion of Ukraine has begun,” British Health Secretary Sajid Javid told Sky News. “The Russians, President Putin, has decided to attack the sovereignty of Ukraine and its territorial integrity.” Shortly after Javid’s interview, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said his nation will immediately impose harsh economic sanctions on Russia.

Read it at Reuters

https://www.thedailybeast.com/britain-says-putins-invasion-of-ukraine-has-begun?ref=home

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

And surprisingly hard. This was a wildcard no one was sure Germany would play.

Germany Hits Russia Where It Hurts by Halting Nord Stream 2 Pipeline Approval

The German government has delivered a huge economic blow to Russia as punishment for its aggression toward Ukraine. AP reported Tuesday that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has halted the approval process for a massive gas pipeline between Germany and Russia known as Nord Stream 2. The $11 billion pipeline has long been criticized by the U.S., which warns that it would give Russia a stranglehold over Europe’s energy supply. Following Russia’s troop deployment in Ukraine, Scholz said his government will “reassess” the certification of the pipeline, which has been built but has not yet started operating due to the volatile situation. “That will certainly take time,” said the chancellor. Western governments are rolling out sanctions against Russia after it sent troops into two regions of eastern Ukraine run by Moscow-backed separatists.

Read it at AP

https://www.thedailybeast.com/germa...ting-nord-stream-2-pipeline-approval?ref=home

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

This actually happened yesterday with more sanctions expected to come out today.

Biden Imposes Sanctions on Pro-Kremlin Swaths of Ukraine

President Biden has signed an executive order barring Americans from doing business with two separatist areas of Ukraine that Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized as independent on Monday. The order covers pro-Kremlin Luhansk and Donetsk in the eastern portion of the country and represents only part of the sanctions that the Biden administration has vowed to impose if Putin continues his march toward a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. “We have anticipated a move like this from Russia and are ready to respond immediately,” White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said of Putin’s decree. “We are continuing to closely consult with allies and partners, including Ukraine, on next steps and on Russia’s ongoing escalation along the border with Ukraine.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/germa...ting-nord-stream-2-pipeline-approval?ref=home

shootersa · Feb 22, 2022

Hopefully bidens handlers will keep him from declaring war on Russia.

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

President Biden is speaking right now and they are going after the banking syst3m. Most observers didn't think President Biden would go that far.

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Defending freedom does have costs. We need to be honest about that and it will cost us here at home. My administration will do everything possible to reduce and mitigate those costs.

thinskin · Feb 22, 2022

The Kenyan ambassador in fine form!

Thinskin

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

thinskin said: ↑

The Kenyan ambassador in fine form!

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Thanks for this. The voice of reason and experience. I was impressed.

Oldotis · Feb 22, 2022

Scotchlass said: ↑

The following was written by Scott Ritter. Some of you may remember him from his days as a former United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998. He later became a critic of United States foreign policy in the Middle East. Prior to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, Ritter stated that Iraq possessed no significant weapons of mass destruction (WMD) capabilities, becoming according to The New York Times "the loudest and most credible skeptic of the Bush administration’s contention that Hussein was hiding weapons of mass destruction."

It seems the man was pretty much on point.... I did not support him then, but I certainly am listening now, if not yet believing. I am having difficulty understanding why Biden is so concerned about the sovereignty of Ukraine's border, but could care less about America's southern border. I know that lunatics on the Left like @username1 will immediately begin cawing about Russian propaganda, but honestly, I don't care.

Agree or disagree with Ritter, this is still a fascinating article. Forget about the source site, and with a critical eye, just look at what he's saying.... No one can predict the future, but does what he's saying make sense?

I have a son in the Army. A Major in one of the Combat Arms, he is also a Russian speaker. I do not want him fighting the Russians in Ukraine for Biden. After all the games our elites have played over the last 2 years, I do not trust them or our government as far as I can throw them. I certainly have not yet been convinced that what we are being told by Biden's government is true....all we hear is "intelligence sources from the UK", and "anonymous intelligence sources in our government." We see drone photos of what we are told are Russian vehicles lined up and see videos of Russian troops in winter gear. These are appeals to our emotions, to our patriotism, but we get no context.

I predict that as we are more and more pushed towards open conflict, this will turn out just like COVID. One side will be asking, give me unassailable proof: why do this now, where is the data? The other side will be using propaganda and military-style psyops and the corporate media to make their opponents seem like morons and "bad" Americans, just because they challenge the government's narrative.

A War With Russia Would Be Unlike Anything the US and NATO Have Ever Experienced
By Scott Ritter
RT News

February 5, 2022

In a recent press conference held on the occasion of a visit to Moscow by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about continued NATO expansion, and the potential consequences if Ukraine was to join the trans-Atlantic alliance.

“Their [NATO’s] main task is to contain the development of Russia,” Putin said. “Ukraine is simply a tool to achieve this goal. They could draw us into some kind of armed conflict and force their allies in Europe to impose the very tough sanctions that are being talked about in the United States today,” he noted. “Or they could draw Ukraine into NATO, set up strike weapons systems there and encourage some people to resolve the issue of Donbass or Crimea by force, and still draw us into an armed conflict.”

Putin continued, “Let us imagine that Ukraine is a NATO member and is stuffed with weapons and there are state-of-the-art missile systems just like in Poland and Romania. Who will stop it from unleashing operations in Crimea, let alone Donbass? Let us imagine that Ukraine is a NATO member and ventures such a combat operation. Do we have to fight with the NATO bloc? Has anyone thought anything about it? It seems not.”

But these words were dismissed by White House spokesperson Jen Psaki, who likened them to a fox “screaming from the top of the hen house that he’s scared of the chickens,” adding that any Russian expression of fear over Ukraine “should not be reported as a statement of fact.”

Psaki’s comments, however, are divorced from the reality of the situation. The principal goal of the government of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is what he terms the “de-occupation” of Crimea. While this goal has, in the past, been couched in terms of diplomacy – “[t]he synergy of our efforts must force Russia to negotiate the return of our peninsula,” Zelensky told the Crimea Platform, a Ukrainian forum focused on regaining control over Crimea – the reality is his strategy for return is a purely military one, in which Russia has been identified as a “military adversary”, and the accomplishment of which can only be achieved through NATO membership.

How Zelensky plans on accomplishing this goal using military means has not been spelled out. As an ostensibly defensive alliance, the odds are that NATO would not initiate any offensive military action to forcibly seize the Crimean Peninsula from Russia. Indeed, the terms of Ukraine’s membership, if granted, would need to include some language regarding the limits of NATO’s Article 5 – which relates to collective defense – when addressing the Crimea situation, or else a state of war would de facto exist upon Ukrainian accession.

The most likely scenario would involve Ukraine being rapidly brought under the ‘umbrella’ of NATO protection, with ‘battlegroups’ like those deployed into eastern Europe being formed on Ukrainian soil as a ‘trip-wire’ force, and modern air defenses combined with forward-deployed NATO aircraft put in place to secure Ukrainian airspace.

Once this umbrella has been established, Ukraine would feel emboldened to begin a hybrid conflict against what it terms the Russian occupation of Crimea, employing unconventional warfare capability it has acquired since 2015 at the hands of the CIA to initiate an insurgency designed specifically to “kill Russians.”

The idea that Russia would sit idly by while a guerilla war in Crimea was being implemented from Ukraine is ludicrous; if confronted with such a scenario, Russia would more than likely use its own unconventional capabilities in retaliation. Ukraine, of course, would cry foul, and NATO would be confronted with its mandatory obligation for collective defense under Article 5. In short, NATO would be at war with Russia.

This is not idle speculation. When explaining his recent decision to deploy some 3,000 US troops to Europe in response to the ongoing Ukrainian crisis, US President Joe Biden declared, “As long as he’s [Putin] acting aggressively, we are going to make sure we reassure our NATO allies in Eastern Europe that we’re there and Article 5 is a sacred obligation.”

Biden’s comments echo those made during his initial visit to NATO Headquarters, on June 15 last year. At that time, Biden sat down with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg and emphasized America’s commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter. “Article 5 we take as a sacred obligation,” Biden said. “I want NATO to know America is there.”

Biden’s view of NATO and Ukraine is drawn from his experience as vice president under Barack Obama. In 2015, then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work told reporters, “As President Obama has said, Ukraine should … be able to choose its own future. And we reject any talk of a sphere of influence. And speaking in Estonia this past September, the president made it clear that our commitment to our NATO allies in the face of Russian aggression is unwavering. As he said it, in this alliance there are no old members and there are no new members. There are no junior partners and there are no senior partners. There are just allies, pure and simple. And we will defend the territorial integrity of every single ally.”

Just what would this defense entail? As someone who once trained to fight the Soviet Army, I can attest that a war with Russia would be unlike anything the US military has experienced – ever. The US military is neither organized, trained, nor equipped to fight its Russian counterparts. Nor does it possess doctrine capable of supporting large-scale combined arms conflict. If the US was to be drawn into a conventional ground war with Russia, it would find itself facing defeat on a scale unprecedented in American military history. In short, it would be a rout.

Don’t take my word for it. In 2016, then-Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster, when speaking about the results of a study – the Russia New Generation Warfare – he had initiated in 2015 to examine lessons learned from the fighting in eastern Ukraine, told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington that the Russians have superior artillery firepower, better combat vehicles, and have learned sophisticated use of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for tactical effect. “Should US forces find themselves in a land war with Russia,” McMaster said, “they would be in for a rude, cold awakening.”

In short, they would get their asses kicked.

America’s 20-year Middle Eastern misadventure in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria produced a military that was no longer capable of defeating a peer-level opponent on the battlefield. This reality was highlighted in a study conducted by the US Army’s 173rd Airborne Brigade, the central American component of NATO’s Rapid Deployment Force, in 2017. The study found that US military forces in Europe were underequipped, undermanned, and inadequately organized to confront military aggression from Russia. The lack of viable air defense and electronic warfare capability, when combined with an over-reliance on satellite communications and GPS navigation systems, would result in the piecemeal destruction of the US Army in rapid order should they face off against a Russian military that was organized, trained, and equipped to specifically defeat a US/NATO threat.

The issue isn’t just qualitative, but also quantitative – even if the US military could stand toe-to-toe with a Russian adversary (which it can’t), it simply lacks the size to survive in any sustained battle or campaign. The low-intensity conflict that the US military waged in Iraq and Afghanistan has created an organizational ethos built around the idea that every American life is precious, and that all efforts will be made to evacuate the wounded so that they can receive life-saving medical attention in as short a timeframe as possible. This concept may have been viable where the US was in control of the environment in which fights were conducted. It is, however, pure fiction in large-scale combined arms warfare. There won’t be medical evacuation helicopters flying to the rescue – even if they launched, they would be shot down. There won’t be field ambulances – even if they arrived on the scene, they would be destroyed in short order. There won’t be field hospitals – even if they were established, they would be captured by Russian mobile forces.

What there will be is death and destruction, and lots of it. One of the events which triggered McMaster’s study of Russian warfare was the destruction of a Ukrainian combined arms brigade by Russian artillery in early 2015. This, of course, would be the fate of any similar US combat formation. The superiority Russia enjoys in artillery fires is overwhelming, both in terms of the numbers of artillery systems fielded and the lethality of the munitions employed.

While the US Air Force may be able to mount a fight in the airspace above any battlefield, there will be nothing like the total air supremacy enjoyed by the American military in its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The airspace will be contested by a very capable Russian air force, and Russian ground troops will be operating under an air defense umbrella the likes of which neither the US nor NATO has ever faced. There will be no close air support cavalry coming to the rescue of beleaguered American troops. The forces on the ground will be on their own.

This feeling of isolation will be furthered by the reality that, because of Russia’s overwhelming superiority in electronic warfare capability, the US forces on the ground will be deaf, dumb, and blind to what is happening around them, unable to communicate, receive intelligence, and even operate as radios, electronic systems, and weapons cease to function.

Any war with Russia would find American forces slaughtered in large numbers. Back in the 1980s, we routinely trained to accept losses of 30-40 percent and continue the fight, because that was the reality of modern combat against a Soviet threat. Back then, we were able to effectively match the Soviets in terms of force size, structure, and capability – in short, we could give as good, or better, than we got.

That wouldn’t be the case in any European war against Russia. The US will lose most of its forces before they are able to close with any Russian adversary, due to deep artillery fires. Even when they close with the enemy, the advantage the US enjoyed against Iraqi and Taliban insurgents and ISIS terrorists is a thing of the past. Our tactics are no longer up to par – when there is close combat, it will be extraordinarily violent, and the US will, more times than not, come out on the losing side.

But even if the US manages to win the odd tactical engagement against peer-level infantry, it simply has no counter to the overwhelming number of tanks and armored fighting vehicles Russia will bring to bear. Even if the anti-tank weapons in the possession of US ground troops were effective against modern Russian tanks (and experience suggests they are probably not), American troops will simply be overwhelmed by the mass of combat strength the Russians will confront them with.

In the 1980s, I had the opportunity to participate in a Soviet-style attack carried out by specially trained US Army troops – the ‘OPFOR’ – at the National Training Center in Fort Irwin, California, where two Soviet-style Mechanized Infantry Regiments squared off against a US Army Mechanized Brigade. The fight began at around two in the morning. By 5:30am it was over, with the US Brigade destroyed, and the Soviets having seized their objectives. There’s something about 170 armored vehicles bearing down on your position that makes defeat all but inevitable.

This is what a war with Russia would look like. It would not be limited to Ukraine, but extend to battlefields in the Baltic states, Poland, Romania, and elsewhere. It would involve Russian strikes against NATO airfields, depots, and ports throughout the depth of Europe.

This is what will happen if the US and NATO seek to attach the “sacred obligation” of Article 5 of the NATO Charter to Ukraine. It is, in short, a suicide pact.

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and author of 'SCORPION KING: America's Suicidal Embrace of Nuclear Weapons from FDR to Trump.' He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty, in General Schwarzkopf’s staff during the Gulf War, and from 1991-1998 as a UN weapons inspector. Follow him on Twitter @RealScottRitter

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/02...ything-the-us-and-nato-have-ever-experienced/
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Ukraine oil and gas companies are the ones the kept Hunter in crack money.....

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

McConnell calls for 'toughest possible sanctions' against Russia

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...or-toughest-possible-sanctions-against-russia

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Biden adviser says Russian deployment into Ukraine is 'an invasion'
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...sian-deployments-the-beginning-of-an-invasion

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Biden orders more US troops to Eastern Europe amid Russia-Ukraine tensions

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...o-eastern-europe-amid-russia-ukraine-tensions

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Another thing that has stunned the Putin/Russian observers is why would Putin do this when th last thing the Russian people want is war with Ukraine. It seems like a real risk to his reign of power.

Russians bemoan Putin’s decision to recognise ‘republics’
While government-friendly media celebrate, many outside the corridors of power are critical of their president’s latest move.

By Niko Vorobyov
Published On 22 Feb 202222 Feb 2022
Saint Petersburg, Russia – On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree to officially recognise the breakaway, self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR, respectively) in war-torn eastern Ukraine.

The move has sent fears through much of Europe that this will give Russia a reason to launch a wider military campaign on Ukrainian territory, perhaps sparking open war.

While those fears surged in Western nations, in Russia, pro-Putin figures celebrated.

Press and commentators friendly to the government praised the decree, with Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of Russian state-owned news network RT and longtime advocate for the recognition of the people’s republics, known collectively as Donbas, calling it an “overdue decision”.

“Happy birthday, Donbas!” she proclaimed on her Telegram channel.

“Happiness lies not in euros, lads!” Olga Skabeeva, host of the Russia 1 TV channel wrote on her Telegram as the price of the rouble fell against the euro. “Long live the Russian world and Russian people!”

War correspondent Alexander Kots, of the Komsomolskaya Pravda tabloid, and Semyon Pegov’s WarGonzo YouTube channel posted footage from Donbas where locals shot fireworks and waved Russian flags in celebration, expressing the hope that Russia’s recognition would finally mean the threat of bloody conflict, which had been looming over their heads for eight years, was drawing to a close.

“Recognition does not unleash a war, but ends these rather hellish eight years, and everyone should be happy,” journalist Oleg Kashin wrote on Telegram. “There is no particular reason to consider Putin a grandfather who has gone [insane].”

Some ordinary Russians were behind their government, including 60-year-old Artur from Saint Petersburg, who declined to give his full name.

“Recognising was the right step, but it should have been taken yesterday, or even better in 2014,” he told Al Jazeera. “The [Ukrainians] delayed the [peace] settlement for eight years and now they see the logical conclusion of their actions. Russia was threatened with new sanctions anyway so they took the right move in this situation.”

“I think it was the right decision,” added Nikolai Sergeevich, 32, a businessman from Mordovia.

“We might suffer a little economically, but the people there will finally get some peace and quiet and they will be able to trade, at least with the countries that recognise them. I think Ukraine should withdraw its troops and take a seat at the negotiating table. They’ve already been bombing Donetsk for seven years already, it’s about time this all stopped.”

But most people approached by Al Jazeera, regardless of their views, were afraid to talk on the record. They expressed a sense of uncertainty and powerlessness about what could happen next, either way.

State-friendly media have been assuring their audiences that open warfare will not erupt. Even among those opposed to Putin’s government, the idea of an all-out war with a neighbouring nation – in which many have friends and relatives – was still unthinkable days ago.

Now, the prospect of war feels closer.

“What is happening is a tragedy that creates the deepest chasm between our two brotherly peoples,” 80-year-old Lyudmila Basok, from Saint Petersburg, told Al Jazeera.

“The situation is terrible; I feel sorry for the people who have become hostages of Putin’s policy and his imperial ambitions,” said business owner Artem, 41, from St Petersburg, who preferred not to give his full name.

“Russia is obliged to leave the Donbas and Ukraine alone. But, unfortunately, this is only possible without Putin. As long as he’s alive, that’s unlikely to happen.”

Alexey Krapukhin, a member of the liberal party Yabloko’s regional council in Moscow, told Al Jazeera: “Yesterday’s decision by Putin to recognise the LNR and DPR has put Russia on the path to social, financial and political catastrophe.”

Putin’s announcement caused the rouble to plunge and sent jitters through the markets.

“Already we can see the markets falling. Every Russian will feel the consequences of this decision. Never before has [modern] Russia been so close to an all-out war. Nobody knows where Russian troops will stay on the frontline, or push further into Donetsk,” Krapukhin said.

“Unfortunately there are still many Russians who believe what they see on TV and praise the decisions of Putin, but they will feel it, too, if one of their relatives will be sent to war. But in Russia there is still a substantial portion of us who do not support this war because it reminds us of the occupation of Poland and the Baltics which we saw in the most terrifying years of the 20th century.”

On Facebook, Krapukhin and others opposed to the recognition marked their profile photos with a Ukrainian flag.

Russia’s decision marks a significant shift from its usual policy. Before, like all other United Nations members, Russia had refused to recognise the “republics”. Even in recent weeks, it said such a move would be too provocative.

But as tensions between Moscow and the West rose further, President Putin, increasingly frustrated by Washington and NATO, signed the decree.

Russia has demanded that NATO never allow Ukraine to become a member and has massed more than 150,000 troops near its former-Soviet neighbour, fuelling war fears. Putin and his officials deny they are planning an invasion, claiming that they have the right to place their soldiers and military equipment where they please, as an act of self-defence within their country’s borders.

Meanwhile across social media, the hashtag #янемолчу (“I’m not silent”) was trending. The campaign was started by Taisia Bekbulatova, editor-in-chief of the online magazine Kholod.

“Lately, it feels like we’ve all fallen into collective sleep paralysis. This is when something unbearably terrible stands in front of you, but you can neither move nor scream,” she wrote on her Facebook and Instagram pages.

“Many feel horror and impotence because of what is happening with Ukraine, and they seem to hope that if they ignore the situation, it will blow over. But what is happening in the last days can no longer be ignored. Many people say that they wake up every day wondering if the war has begun. It’s a kind of insanity.”

The hashtag was picked up by others.

“Many people close to me are terrified of the prospect of the war with Ukraine, and I am worried about them,” lawyer and activist Nikolai Kavkazsky wrote under the hashtag. “War will be a disaster for all of us. We do not need it and it is being artificially imposed on the Kremlin.”

While protest action had been limited to a handful of pickets, dissent has risen over the past week.

On Saturday, the famous Russian poet Yuliy Kim posted a poem to his Facebook page.

“I am not at war with Ukraine,” he wrote, “So that the wind dispels the black smoke, and so that it only blackens those who started all this – an eternal stigma of shame!”

On Sunday, a group of six protesters unfurled banners reading “Russia, don’t touch Ukraine!” in Moscow, only to be immediately taken away by police.

Source: Al Jazeera

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/22/russians-bemoan-putins-decision-to-recognise-republics

shootersa · Feb 22, 2022

Hey stumbler, you hoping biden puts boots on the ground to fight Russia over Ukraine?

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Biden sanctions Russian banks and declares Ukraine invasion has begun

Dave Lawler

Zachary Basu

President Biden announced what he called the "first tranche" in a series of stiff sanctions to punish Russia for invading Ukraine, targeting two Russian banks and the country's sovereign debt.

Why it matters: Biden said Russia's recognition of two separatist "republics" in eastern Ukraine and decision to deploy troops there indicated Vladimir Putin was "carving out a big chunk in Ukraine" and "setting up a rationale to go much further."

Details: Biden said two Russian financial institutions, VEB and Russia’s military bank, would be put under sanctions.

He also said Russia’s sovereign debt will be sanctioned so Russia "can no longer raise money from the West and cannot trade its new debt on our markets, or European markets either." In a sign of trans-Atlantic coordination, the U.S. sanctions overlapped with those announced from London and Brussels.

Biden also announced that sanctions on Russian elites and their family members would be rolled out in the coming days. The initial list includes include Russian spy chief Alexander Bortnikov and his son Denis, deputy presidential chief of staff Sergey Kiryenko and his son Vladimir, and Promsvyazbank CEO Petr Fradkov.

A senior administration official also told reporters that Germany's decision to suspend certification of Nord Stream 2 came after "overnight consultations" between Berlin and Washington, and touted it as a major financial blow to Putin.

What to watch: "No Russian financial institution is safe if this invasion proceeds," the official stressed.

"We are ready to press a button to take further action on the very largest Russian financial institutions, including Sberbank and VTB, which collectively hold almost $750 billion in assets — more than half the total in Russia as a whole."

The official also said export controls on critical technologies and other steps remain in the U.S. arsenal if Putin further escalates.

What they're saying: “Who in the Lord's name does Putin think gives him the right to declare new so-called countries in territories that belong to his neighbors?” Biden asked in his remarks.

Biden also said the U.S. was sending more defense assistance to Ukraine and relocating troops that were already positioned in Europe to NATO's eastern flank, in the Baltic states.

The president reiterated that U.S. troops would not be deployed to fight in Ukraine, but warned Americans would feel the consequences of war, including through higher gas prices.

Driving the news: Putin gave his clearest indication yet that Russian troops would launch an invasion further into Ukraine, saying the borders of the separatist "republics" he recognized on Monday extend to territory currently controlled by Ukrainian forces.

Putin said at a press conference earlier Tuesday that Russian forces may not immediately advance into the two "republics," but that "it is impossible to predict the scenario that will unfold." Russia also plans to evacuate its embassy in Kyiv.

NATO and the EU both said Tuesday that Russian troops had crossed into the separatist republics in eastern Ukraine.

Meanwhile European countries have begun to announce new sanctions on Russia, with Germany unexpectedly halting certification of the controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

https://www.axios.com/biden-ukraine-putin-invasion-remarks-2ab0a1a0-134a-4115-8618-8379fcca49ba.html

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

Yeah I sure don't ever remember seeing something like this before. Secretary of State Blinkin is holding a joint press conference with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. That is one hell of a show of solidarity and Kuleba thanked the US for kind of a lend lease program I had never heard of.

silverstar2003 · Feb 22, 2022

Are nt we seeing a repeat of history ? Putin is concerned to protect ethnic russians in eastern ukraine
Hitler was concerned to protect ethnic germans in poland czekoslovakia etc
there was ethic genocide being carried out against germans in poland prior to ww 2 ......
hitler invaded poland which ended
up kicking off ww 2

there are similar pockets of ethnic russians in other states eg Estonia ..... we could be seeing the start of ww3

stumbler · Feb 22, 2022

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Yeah I sure don't ever remember seeing something like this before. Secretary of State Blinkin is holding a joint press conference with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. That is one hell of a show of solidarity and Kuleba thanked the US for kind of a lend lease program I had never heard of.
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That was a really impressive press conference. I actually learned quite a bit about the history of Ukraine, and the agreements they operate under with the West. But just something above everything else is I have been impressed with the Ukrainian peop0le since they risked being i killed in the streets to kick Yanukovych our as president. And they don't deserve any of this. They are brave, intelligent, peaceful people with a great sense of humor. Putin has absolutely no right to attack them and the world should not just stand by and let him do it,

It is long past time to stand up to Putin and make him pay.

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