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  1. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    when will we find out how the electors voted....
     
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/cover...moonbat-mainstream-media.322220/#post-5858804
     
  3. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    +1

    And thank you for making my point.

    The mainstream press marches to the drum of the left. It did not objectively report the Crimean invasion, and it certainly did not delve into the Obama/Clinton administration's feckless handling of it.

    Nor can the mainstream media be trusted to report objectively on the Wiki releases now. Nor can the media be trusted to do investigatory journalism to ascertain the true source and reason for the releases.

    But that does not mean we will never see the full story (or lack of one). Trump understands that the mainstream media is no longer reporting news and has become a leftist propaganda organ. That is why he is already marginalizing them.

    The falsity of the Russian Hacking Narrative WILL be exposed for all to see. It will be released to the people directly, through social media. The New York Times, the Washington Post, and ABC/NBC/CNN won't have the opportunity to filter and spin it.
     
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  4. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    I actually know a little about this, because the Boston Globe's morning radio show interviewed an elector this morning.

    First of all, the New York Times was wrong this morning when it reported that many states (including Massachusetts) give electors the ability to vote their conscience. The elector in the interview stated explicitly that they are wrong about Massachusetts and in many other cases. Most electors must adhere to the results of the election.

    By the way, Lessig of Harvard is flat out wrong on this, too. But Al Gore, Barack Obama, and Lizzie Warren all attended and/or taught at Harvard, so we should know by now that association with that den of iniquity is no indicator of intelligence.

    As to when we'll find out, apparently the election process is an all day thing, with lots of pomp and circumstance. They don't just raise a hand and be counted. They meet all day. They hold mini-caucuses, form committees and elect officers, to ensure continuity through the next cycle. They vote on pay (apparently they get a tiny stipend-- less than$5 per hour in Massachusetts).

    There's all kinds of ritual involved, going back 250 years. So, we probably won't get results until late afternoon or early evening.
     
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      According to the reports I saw on both Fox News and CNN 29 states require electors to adhere to the results of the election and twenty some states don't.
       
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  5. Hellcat41979

    Hellcat41979 J.A.F.A.

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    The fucked up thing is no one can prove one way or the other that the information released was the Russians or not. After all there's no way to prove that there wasn't a leaker at the same time the alleged hacking took place and that the information that was released came the leaker and not the hackers.

    The only thing this does prove is how arrogant those on the left are. This whole argument screams the peasants had to much information and it effected there ability to choose one of their chosen candidates. Now the choice the people chose must be invalidated.
     
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  6. Ficxa 479

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    De plu you lost. Just except it and go along
     
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    Gods are always on stronger guys side
     
  8. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    so all the electors go to their state capitals today.....

    electors votes are cast at noon...so there are a few times zones for all to be cast...

    then they are sent to Washington but are not counted by the house until Jan 6th...

    so are we going to have to wait until Jan 6th to find out who defected in which states....

    I have been really trying to figure this out....

    seems like a lot of days in suspense for this election...
     
  9. shootersa

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    Shooter has been ............. out of communication ................ for the last 9 days, and heard the "news" about the Russians giving the US presidency to Trump.
    He has been itching to get into the shit storm he knew would be brewing here.
    Now he's back.
    He isn't going to read through all 27 pages of shit storm so if he raises issues already raised, so be it.
    Firs, a couple of questions for the Trump "unsupporters"
    1) How, exactly, did the Russians tip the election to Trump? Did they hack ballot machines? Did they hack the computers tabulating results? Did they hack into the National computers tracking results? (Oh, wait, there is no national computer tracking results; at least not one managed by the government) Did they forge paper ballots? Exactly how did the Russians tip the election to Trump?
    2) The idea of the Russians hacking DNC computers was of course a huge news item during the campaign. The word was, the Russians were trying to influence the election. Why then, didn't Obama take concrete steps to stop any hacking of the election process? You know, warn states and counties to be aware and, you know, STOP the fuckery?
    3) Why, given Clinton's known record supporting Russia in Syria, would the Russians prefer the unknown of Trump?
    4) Also in the news while Shooter was on vacation was the recount in Wisconsin, which, given the national focus on the process, could have been expected to discover that Hillary had more votes than she was acredited and Trump had fewer. If the Russians indeed hacked the election, it is logical to assume they would have hacked Wisconsin, and the recount process would have uncovered it. Make sense?
    5) If the Russians indeed hacked the election process, why would they have let Clinton win the popular vote by 3 Million votes? Why not a landslide victory for Trump, (see question 4) assuming they really wanted Trump (see question 3) and could not be stopped (see question 2) and, of course, assuming that whatever method they used to hack the process (see question 1) was as influential as the press and Obama would have us believe.

    The bottom line is, over the 10 days or so that this has been "news", no story even attempts to explain how, exactly, the Russians pulled this off. The news is that "Informed sources" have determined this to be true. Well, sorry, Shooter is tired of being told by "informed sources" that something is true, and when he challenges the data, being patted on the head and told "we could tell you but then we'd kill have to kill you" or "Never mind, we know best"
    Fuck that
    The revolution has begun.
     
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    1. RandyKnight
      How dare you go on vacation and then expect to come here and
      high jack a thread stumbles has worked so hard to keep alive....

      Everyone knows Putin has financed all of trumps holdings and
      Trump and Rex Tillerson are going to make Russia great again
      from the oil profits.
       
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    2. shootersa
      Well, but Stumbles seems to have resigned.
      Shooter thinks this story needs to be fully investigated and the TRUTH revealed.
      We need facts dammit!
       
      shootersa, Dec 20, 2016
  10. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    UPDATE: The states voting in the 10 a.m. ET and 11 a.m. ET hours have completed their voting, and the totals so far reflect the Election Day outcome. The count now stands at 55 votes for Donald Trump and 27 for Hillary Clinton.


    More sweet lib tears coming.
     
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  11. Rixer

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    If their intelligence is as good as the way the CIA proved Iraq had chemical weapons, I can see why they don't want to show what it is...
     
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      How about Obama intelligence calling ISIL a Jvee team....
       
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      It's funny how apparently they haven't concluded the investigation into this yet or even presented any evidence to the public yet if it's someone else accused of a crime like say Hillary they sing a different tune.
       
      Hellcat41979, Dec 19, 2016
  12. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    POPULAR VOTE TOTAL OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA:
    TRUMP: 58,474,401
    CLINTON: 57,064,530
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    TRUMP: + 1.4 MILLION
     
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  13. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    The count: Donald Trump has 154 votes; Hillary Clinton has 83 votes. There are 301 votes pending.
     
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      Bernie Sanders, 1
       
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  14. stumbler

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    Bullshit Clarise. There are more than 50 pages on that thread where you are hair on fire hysterical over the threat you claim Putin/Russia is to the US. But just like Ace's N 8's and tenguy now that Putin/Russia has actually invaded the US, and Trump has nominated a host of pro-Putin/Russia appointees all of a sudden instead of being a threat Putin/Russia is our new best friend forever.

    Own it you total fraud.
     
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      PA Electoral College meeting is adjourned. Woman screams from the gallery: "You just gave us Adolf Hitler"
       
      RandyKnight, Dec 19, 2016
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    I see the bickering and mud-slinging continues but Stumbler is correct you guys have severely changed your tune!

    Russia has gone from public enemy number one to a welcome aid to the electoral process!

    Next you will be telling me the emperor's new clothes will keep out the cold weather!

    Thinskin
     
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    1. RandyKnight
      From the AP: Protesters shouted, cried and even sang "Silent Night" as Wisconsin's 10 presidential electors cast their ballots for Donald Trump.
       
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    Obama did nothing to try and stop Russia from the crap they have been pulling....

    let's see how Trump deals with Russia.....

    I dont want any country hacking us but at this point there is no evidence that where were hacked
    and looks more like inside leaks......

    and if the leaks did sway the election what where the leaks that did?
     
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      I am watching your electoral college voting updates!

      To answer your question above Randy........all mud sticks for a while!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Dec 19, 2016
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      The Dems never said those leaked e-mails where untrue in fact the head of the DNC
      was fired because of what she had
      written......
       
      RandyKnight, Dec 19, 2016
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    Trump Supporter Shot And Killed

     
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      From the AP: Protesters shouted, cried and even sang "Silent Night" as Wisconsin's 10 presidential electors cast their ballots for Donald Trump.
       
      RandyKnight, Dec 19, 2016
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    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    The count:
    Donald Trump has 179 votes; Hillary Clinton has 93 votes. There are 266 votes pending.
     
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      Dec 19, 2016 2:10 PM ESTThe Michigan electors have asked to read a statement into the record.

      The statement refers to this historical workings of the Electoral College.
       
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  19. stumbler

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    Guilty as charged as far as my part in the bickering and mud-slinging. And I even take credit for slinging more mud faster and making it stick like shit.

    But RandyKnight is another perfect example of turning a 180 degree contradiction going from Putin/Russia is a threat to all of a sudden we can't trust our own intelligence agencies but we can trust Putin.

    And that is living and breathing blind ideology in action.
     
    1. RandyKnight
      Obama did nothing to try and stop Russia from the crap they have been pulling....

      let's see how Trump deals with Russia.....

      I dont want any country hacking us but at this point there is no evidence that they were hacked
      and looks more like inside leaks......

      and if the leaks did sway the election what where the leaks that did?
       
      RandyKnight, Dec 19, 2016
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      Dec 19, 2016 2:14 PM ESTThe Hill is reporting: "A Minnesota Democratic elector has become the first "faithless elector" of Monday's nationwide Electoral College vote after refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton."


      Dec 19, 2016 2:19 PM EST Minnesota cast 10 votes for Hillary Clinton after Muhammad Abdurrahan, a "faithless voter" refused to vote for her and was replaced by an alternate.
       
      RandyKnight, Dec 19, 2016
  20. clarise

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    On the contrary. You have it all wrong.

    Russia is a kleptocracy at best, and Putin is a mobster.

    But I part ways with your premise. You apparently support some variant of the idea that Trump is in Putin's back pocket. I disagree with that notion. I think it is absurd on its face.

    I think the Iranians are much worse than Putin. But I didn't have a problem with Obama's assertion that he was willing to negotiate with them. Admittedly I did think that his winning the Nobel Prize for that assertion alone was rather ridiculous. And I developed a ,big, big problem with Obama's alignment somewhere between his 2009 apology tour and his declaration that he wanted to see Jerusalem split in half. I also had a huge problem with Obama's Arab Spring, and the 1.4 million deaths and counting that it has cost civilization, with almost zero U.S. mainstream media coverage.

    And I totally lost it when Obama handed nukes to Iran.

    But his initial willingness to sit down with them? Hey, most of us would rather talk than fight.
     
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