Send it the Troops

latecomer91364 · Jun 5, 2020

Show us the chain of emails to and from the Boogaloos and the Trump White House orchestrating anything at all.
Why the fuck would any AG start blabbing specifically about a very new and ongoing investigation? The left just likes to call it 'Dodging.' Bullshit.

Dumbfuckler talks out of his ass, as do the extreme left douche-rags that he relies on, as usual.

The Obama administration is the most corrupt in US History
Remember Strzok and Page?
"POTUS wants to know everything we're doing"

More coming on that frequently.

FuntimeFla · Jun 5, 2020

So George Floyd was arrested for trying to pass Funny Money for the second time in the same day at the same store. High on Fentanyl, meth in his system, underlying conditions, Covid Positive, dies from heart attack, not asphixiation.
Crowd interferes with arrest!
I can't wait to see the Prosecution Chug this train over reasonable doubt mountain! Now if there is any truth to the sordid details, it will be more interesting yet!
Troops will be needed if the officers are aquitted!

latecomer91364 · Jun 5, 2020

The official result was:

Cause of death: Asphyxiation
Manner of death: Homicide

Passing bad money - I heard it was a forged check (still an allegation), not 'Funny Money' which indicates counterfeiting.
Yep, that rates a fucking immediate death sentence on the street, doesn't it?
Some fucks will never ever 'get it'.

He had a right to responsible handling by law enforcement upon arrest, regardless of his guilt or innocence of the alleged offense, no matter what the offense might be.
Some people just make themselves look more stupid and racist every time they click 'Post Reply'.

stumbler · Jun 5, 2020

The president vs. the Pentagon

Over the course of just a few hours, President Trump was rebuffed by the Secretary of Defense over his call for troops in the streets and accused by James Mattis, his former Pentagon chief, of trampling the Constitution for political gain.

Why it matters: Current and former leaders of the U.S. military are drawing a line over Trump's demand for a militarized response to the protests and unrest that have swept the country over the killing of George Floyd by police.

The backlash began when protesters and journalists were violently expelled from Lafayette Park so that Trump — flanked by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley — could walk across the square to St. John's church.

Esper also drew criticism for urging governors to "dominate the battlespace" if protests turned violent.

The response from former military leaders was swift and harsh, particularly considering their previous reticence to wade into politically charged waters.

Mike Mullen, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, wrote that Trump had "laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest" and "risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces."

Martin Dempsey, another former Joint Chiefs chairman, called Trump's rhetoric "extremely dangerous" and tweeted, "America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy."

Other former members of the military’s top brass warned of unprecedented danger to civil-military relations and to the entire “American experiment.”

The blow from Mattis landed most forcefully. He invoked the battle against Nazism and accused Trump of violently dispersing righteous protests “for a bizarre photo op ... with military leadership standing alongside.”

The criticism reverberated through the Pentagon, and its leaders began to draw a line.

Esper expressed regret over his comments to the governors, claimed he "did not know a photo op was happening" at the church and — in a direct challenge to Trump — said active-duty troops should not be sent into American cities.

That infuriated Trump, who has asked for names of potential replacements, Axios' Jonathan Swan reports. Sources close to Trump predict that he will sideline Esper, rather than fire him.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany pointedly did not offer Esper any public backing on Wednesday, saying only that “should the president lose faith,” he won’t keep it a secret.

Milley, meanwhile, sent a letter to military leaders reiterating their duty to preserve and protect the Constitution, including the freedoms of speech and assembly.

In a handwritten addendum, he wrote: “We all committed our lives to the idea that is America — we will stay true to that oath and the American people.”

Army leadership released a similar letter, and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy emphasized the military's duty to protect those who "peaceably assemble" in a tweet.

"It’s important for them to speak with one voice," Leon Panetta, a former defense secretary (2011–2013), tells Axios of the military's leaders.

"It's critical at this point that all of them join hands and take a strong position for what’s right, with the hope that that unity can send a message to the president that he ought to back off."

Panetta says he finds it hard to put himself in Esper's shoes because the presidents under whom he served "would not take advantage of you and your position."

Panetta says Esper and Milley should not have been surprised that Trump would seek to “use a photo op to make a point.”

“I've been in that position, where you're caught up in a crisis and everyone says 'let’s do this' and 'let’s do that.' It’s kind of mob rule in the White House."

"People start moving and you start to feel that if you don’t move with the mob you’re not part of the team. That may have been what brought them into that situation."

“I know Esper well enough to know that it probably impacted his own conscience, as secretary, and his sense of what the Pentagon should be in a moment of crisis.”

Panetta says Esper and Milley were both likely affected by the flood of criticism.

"Military leaders inside and outside [the Pentagon] made clear that they had to make the right decision."

By doing so, in Panetta’s view, Esper “clearly put his job at risk.”

The bottom line: "Deep down, there’s always a lurking question about if the president does something, or demands something that is wrong, what do you do?"

"Most secretaries have been spared that moment because they haven’t experienced a presidency like the one we’re experiencing today."

"But with this president, I think everyone at the Pentagon in a leadership position made a decision that it’s better for them to hang together."

Driving the news: A White House spokesperson reiterated on Thursday that "all options are on the table," including invoking the Insurrection Act to send troops into the street.

Sen. Tom Cotton, often discussed as a possible defense secretary, wrote a heavily criticized op-ed urging Trump to follow through.

But while protests have continued in Washington and other major cities, there have been fewer scenes of violence and looting as the week has carried on.

Trump and his allies argue that's because of the heavy National Guard presence and his threats of overwhelming force.

It appears those threats will no longer be backed by the 82nd Airborne, which was dispatched to the D.C. area but never entered the capital.

Esper has reportedly ordered those troops to return home — though he issued the same order on Wednesday before reversing it after meeting with Trump.

Mayor Muriel Bowser has ended Washington's curfew and is calling for the massive presence of the National Guard and other federal forces — including some who refuse to identify themselves — to leave the city.

The buzz of helicopters has quieted for the moment. A large new fence and street closures are intended to keep protesters away from the White House.

What to watch: If the scene at St. John's church proves the climax of America's current militarized moment, it may be in large part because the military men in the photo —and many outside of it — decided to draw a line.
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https://www.axios.com/trump-troops-esper-milley-mattis-f5b641e6-d9b0-4949-98e9-25df38a44b5b.html

stumbler · Jun 5, 2020

It looks like even God is opposed to sending in the troops since two of them were struck by lightening last night.

shootersa · Jun 5, 2020

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It looks like even God is opposed to sending in the troops since two of them were struck by lightening last night.
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And you liked that didn't you, fucking TWAT

stumbler · Jun 6, 2020

So much for days of lies that they did not teargas peaceful protesters.

Park Police: ‘Mistake’ for Us to Say ‘No Tear Gas’ Was Used on Peaceful D.C. Crowd

U.S. Park Police told Vox on Friday that it was a “mistake” for them to have previously insisted no tear gas was used to disperse a crowd of peaceful protesters in Washington, D.C. on Monday. The crowd was hit with an irritant so President Trump could walk to a church for a photo-op.

Trump administration officials have insisted for days that no tear gas was used, despite witnesses reporting burning eyes, and despite CS tear gas canisters being found at the scene. Park Police said in their initial statement that no tear gas was used by any federal agency, and they’d instead deployed “smoke canisters and pepper balls.” (Both would come under the CDC’s definition of tear gas as a synthetic chemical irritant used for riot control.)

“The point is we admitted to using what we used,” Sgt. Eduardo Delgado told Vox. “I think the term ‘tear gas’ doesn’t even matter anymore. It was a mistake on our part for using ‘tear gas’ because we just assumed people would think CS or CN [which are the two most common types of tear gas].”

Read it at Vox
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/park-...ar-gas-was-used-on-peaceful-dc-crowd?ref=home

stumbler · Jun 6, 2020

Let's take another look at how the PR hacks really work on this forum depending on who is president. And keep in mind this is only half of these kinds of posts going clear back to 2013. And these only go back to late 2016.

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Some more of the empirical leftist butt hurt arising and on display once again.

The founders were genius, they set this country up to have an election process representing the States, not representing the nation as a whole, hence we have the Electoral College...representing the States.

Something that you leftists will have to accept.

States Rights vs. and overbearing national government aka....Federal Fucking Government.
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The free market and Capitalism is a gamble, there are no guarantees.

Coolidge cleaned up the rampant corruption of the Harding administration and provided a model of stability and respectability for the American people in an era of fast-paced modernization.

Along with being a pro-business conservative who favored tax cuts and limited government spending.

And no, Coolidge could not have prevented the Depression, no one, absolutely no one see it coming, yet however many, many times the 'lets blame it on Bush' housing crisis could have been prevented, because it was seen.

Coolidge's view of administration was that it should avoid harm rather than promote good. It was the job of the president to enforce the law as it stood not to change it.

Coolidge respected States Rights.
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ace's n 8's said: ↑

Both the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights were designed to limit government. A limited government has legal limits on its power and can only pass laws that do not affect personal liberties.
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You damned right.

Abortion rights should have never made it to the federal level. That's total fucking bullshit.

States rights is where it should of been judged at, not a federal level.

And another thing.

It's not a right, it's a set of ''unfortunate circumstances'', damn sure not a right.
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Typical.

This country is based upon State Rights, NOT central governmental rights.

50 States voted, 50 states spoke, Trump won.
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ace's n 8's said: ↑

I dont have anything against States Rights or laws, or whatever a State wants to do, as long as the States citizens have a proper vote on it.

Now, if the State regulations and legislation is in violation of federal fucking government regulations and legislation, in this particular instance, I could care less...all the way up to the point to where interstate commerce is involved, that is exactly the time when the Federal fucking government should get involved, and hammer the fuck out of that State.
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Now take special note of this one because it is a perfect example of Public Relations spin. People hire PR shops to make them look good and come up with excuses for what they do. Which is what we are seeing here. This actually contradicts nearly everything the PR hack has said before and after. But because in this case it is Trump doing it he makes up an excuse for it.

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Listen, I dont support the use of illicit drugs, or the abuse of prescription drugs, do I want it around me, or my family....dont think so.

Weed slows everybody's reactive functions, there isn't much of a medical use for it, it's nothing more than a relief agent, so is Tylenol.

States rights have legitimacy with me, the prohibition amendment is and was total bullshit.

The Amendments were designed to protect the people from the federal fucking government, not the other way around, the prohibition amendment gives the federal fucking government power OVER the people....not good.

As for firings, who gives a fuck if they get fired, if the bullshit impedes their ability to perform their tasks safely and efficiently....fire the mother fuckers.
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Your public opinion polls are irrelevant, to say the least.

Constitutionally speaking, only 11 of the listed above are the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

World humanitarianism is not a requirement by the USC.

Education, state issue, not a federal oversight or a fundamental right to oversee as the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

Unemployment, state issue, not a federal oversight or a fundamental right to oversee as the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

Healthcare, private sector, not a federal oversight or a fundamental right to oversee as the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

EPA, another communistic take over of Capitalism, not a federal oversight or a fundamental right to oversee as the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

Combating crime, state issue only, not a federal oversight or a fundamental right to oversee as the responsibility of the federal fucking government.

The list goes on and on...of course.

A central government is not protected under the U.S.C, it is the course of limiting a central government.

No.

The federal fucking government has coerced the States and limited their own right to maintain their rights....with bribery

This country was not designed for a collective, it was designed to ''promote the individual'', along with the promoting of ''States Rights''
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ace's n 8's said: ↑

I never favored Lincoln as a President.

And yes, the Civil War was precedented upon States Rights, not slavery.
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Coolidge was not stupid, actually he was on of the smartest POTUS we have ever had, he knew where the boundries of the federal fucking government.

Coolidge knew and understood the parameters States Rights and the individual rights of the citizen.

OR, you can attribute it to laziness, either way, it doesn't matter, he kept the federa fucking government out of the way.
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There was a time, when I stopped listening to anything that fool said, maybe he did, I didn't catch it.
Simple, it was a representation of States Rights, nothing more, nothing less....rebellion against the federal fucking government.
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Not in this country, there is only one answer...''RULE OF LAW''.

Not to forget the fact that the States have separate rights, they have the authority to add more ''parties'' to the elections
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Yes Lincoln resorted to an emotional issue for the self preservation, but, the war was still about preserving States Rights, it was much easier to get folks on board with the emotioonal notion of a Civil War.
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stumbler · Jun 6, 2020

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*With ANTIFA now designated as a terrorists Organization, I believe the Military is permitted to intervene.

These mother fuckers are destroying our communities with organized riots and means of violence.

They tore up Cleveland over the weekend, with burning and bloodshed, and organized at that, there was a picture of a pallet of bricks these yo-yo's were picking from to throw at people and store fronts.
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*Take note of how this is all based on a lie. Trump has threatened to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization but has usual he was just bluffing and hasn't followed through. But a PR hack will spin that like its already been done so he can contradict almost everything he has ever said about "States Rights."

stumbler · Jun 6, 2020

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Most of this seems to boil down to A woman's right to make her own choices regarding her body.

Anyone ever consider the man's rights?

I mean isn't that cluster of cells just as much his as it is hers? Yet bottom line he has no say at all. Seems a little one sided to me.

Had a GF once... She went away on a "girls weekend"... Found out about a month after her return that was not the primary reason for the trip... She had an abortion.... Now, based on our situations at the time... She a moderately heavy crank user and myself barely able to pay my own bills much less properly able to take care of a child.... Her decision was probably the correct one.

The issue I have/had Was I did not have a say.... That cluster of cells/fetus/child... Was just as much mine as hers... Yet I didn't get even a chance to voice my thoughts... I'm sure my story is not unique...

The left will say so what... It's her choice... Ok... If that's the case... Why does a man have to pay child support for a child he may not want anything to do with? I got a feeling that if that were to change the number of "accidental" pregnancies would diminish greatly. Just a theory.. looking at the reverse.. he wants the kid she doesn't.... He's still shit outta luck... Her body her choice... Right?

You Fem-nazi's want equal rights.... You claim it does not exist... Fine, fair across the board... I will tell you right now... You ain't gonna like the outcome....

This issue can not be legislated... No matter what laws are passed in certain states... The medical procedure known as "Dilation and curettage (D&C)" will still remain legal in some states... Wisely, Congress has stayed pretty much out of this... not passing any national laws... It's a States Rights issue... Each one is free to choose how things will be. Here in Bama... It's was decided one way. I do not agree with all the provision's in the law... However, I do support it... Maybe, just maybe it might make people just a little more careful of what they are doing... Then again most people are fucked in the head dipshits.... So maybe not...
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Notice how "abortion" is a "states right" but when it comes to how states handle protests its time for Trump to dictate to them and send in the troops.

shootersa · Jun 6, 2020

Well, rear admiral butt nugget thinks he hit the mother load of conservative hypocrisy today.

You go son, have fun!!

stumbler · Jun 6, 2020

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Well, rear admiral butt nugget thinks he hit the mother load of conservative hypocrisy today.

You go son, have fun!!
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I haven't had a chance to go back and find yours yet

shootersa · Jun 6, 2020

.... waiting with stars in his eyes ........

* this should keep rear admiral butt nugget from looting the nearest Target

clive pickering · Jun 6, 2020

What is it with you Americans and your obsession with looting Target ?
I know I could google it but where's the fun in that, what is Target ?

stumbler · Jun 7, 2020

So what are you guessing you guys. Are there more protesters in the streets of DC than there were at Trump's inauguration?

Distant Lover · Jun 7, 2020

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Trump has always wanted to be a full fledged dictator and his supporters cheer him on. No more United States of America. No more Constitution or constitutional rights. Just Trump dictator for life with the succession falling to his children just like North Korea.

It was a great country while it lasted.
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If the economy tanks, and the crime rate goes through the roof - and I think both are possible right now - Americans will not care about "Constitutional rights." They will want a strong man who can restore prosperity to them, and restore their safety by getting rid of the criminals. That is what Hitler did, until he made the mistake of trying to conquer Great Britain. He should have accepted a low intensity war of indefinite duration, while continuing to ask for a peace treaty.

Trump is not nearly as intelligent as Hitler. Nevertheless, the office of Strong Man remains open if things really get bad in this country.

shootersa · Jun 7, 2020

If the economy tanks President Trump will probably lose.
If the economy rebounds President Trump will probably win.

conroe4 · Jun 7, 2020

No matter what happens Trump will beat Biden. I think.

But the Dow is over 27K...

stumbler · Jun 7, 2020

GoFundMe suspends conservative activist Candace Owens following George Floyd ‘thug’ fundraising campaign

According to the Daily Beast’s Will Sommer, conservative activist Candance Owens was suspended by GoFundme after she ‘raised more than $200,000 on the site for an Alabama cafe whose owner called George Floyd a ‘thug.'”

Owens, who has claimed that Floyd is nor “martyr” is often at the center of controversies as she attempts to raise her profile in ways that have also caused her to be suspended by Twitter.

According to Sommer’s report, “Owens has become one of the right’s most prominent critics of Floyd and the protests held after his killing, with one video she made highlighting his criminal record going viral on Facebook. Those same remarks appear to have prompted GoFundMe to ban Owens. She later repeated the same attacks on Floyd during a chat with right-wing star Glenn Beck, and that video was then boosted by President Donald Trump.”

In a statement, GoFundme called out Owens for spreading “falsehoods against the black community.”

According to the statement, “GoFundMe has suspended the account associated with Candace Owens and the GoFundMe campaign has been removed because of a repeated pattern of inflammatory statements that spread hate, discrimination, intolerance and falsehoods against the black community at a time of profound national crisis. These actions violate our terms of service.”

The Daily Beast columnist added,”Owens had been raising money for the Parkside Cafe in Birmingham, Alabama, which has been embroiled in social-media controversy after co-owner Michael Dykes called Floyd a ‘thug’ and described protesters as ‘idiots’ in a text message that was later posted online. In his text message, Dykes also discussed raising prices and charging a ‘protest tax.'”

The report does note that money raised so far will go to the cafe owner.

You can read more here.\
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/go...owing-george-floyd-thug-fundraising-campaign/

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