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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Well, even if the despicables get their conviction finally, its going to be anticlimactic, eh?

    Really. All those years, all those investigations, just to get one mad clown.
    Truly, the persecutors are that incompetent.
     
  2. silkythighs

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    Hmm, Trump out in 2021. 2023 indictment come rolling in. I guess math isn't a strong suit of yours. :O_o:
     
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    1. shootersa
      figures never lie, but liars figure.
      When was the investigation into Stormy's payoff begun?
      How about the demonstrators suing Trump when they were forcibly removed from Trump Tower in 2015?

      Selective memory is a sign of delusion or mental illness.
       
      shootersa, Aug 11, 2023
  3. stumbler

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    It is very easy to prove the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans in the House are running phony lying political hack job hearings just by the witnesses they refuse to call and all the things the won't investigate.

    And of course also glaring proof that treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans refuse to live under democracy and the Constitution.



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    U.S. House lawmakers on Thursday called for an investigation into efforts to "subvert democracy" by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis after he suspended the state's lone elected Black circuit prosecutor. File Photo by Jim Ruymen/UPI


    Aug. 10 (UPI) -- Democratic lawmakers are pushing the House Oversight Committee to investigate Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for his alleged efforts to "subvert democracy."

    Jaime Raskin, the ranking Democratic member on the committee, joined congressmen Maxwell Frost and Daniel Goldman in penning a letter to the committee's chairman, Republican Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, addressing concerns about DeSantis' firing of elected attorneys in the state.

    DeSantis on Wednesday suspended the state's lone elected Black circuit prosecutor, Monique Worrell, a Democrat whose Ninth Judicial District covered Orange and Osceola counties, for "neglecting her duty to faithfully prosecute crime in her jurisdiction."

    She was the second state prosecutor removed by DeSantis, who has aggressively sought to shape the political landscape in Florida. The controversial governor previously sacked state attorney Andrew Warren.

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    Florida law allows the governor to suspend elected officials, despite the will of the people, for reasons including his belief that there has been a neglect of duty.

    "In May, we asked you to convene an Oversight and Accountability Committee hearing on the shocking trends of anti-democratic abuses of power in the state. Our concerns have gone unanswered and, without any oversight or accountability, the situation continues to worsen," the letter reads.

    "Under its current administration, Florida's executive and legislative branches of government have engaged in a relentless assault on the fundamental rights and freedoms of Floridians.

    "The Florida Governor has continued to force through this repressive agenda by extreme and lawless means and has taken further acts of political intimidation tactics against elected officials. Since our initial correspondence, the situation in Florida has continued to escalate."


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-push-house-oversight-committee-021500297.html
     
  4. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    The Russians will provide enough misinformation for 86 investigations and 16 years, resulting in no indictments and the Republicans still won't realize they're too stupid to catch Dark Brandon.
     
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  5. shootersa

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    Yep. The russians gave us the steele dossier.
    Course, the deep state gave us "hunters laptop is a fake".
    But say, whatever it takes to get Trump and protect the hive mind, eh?
     
  6. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    The only thing that is going to get Trump will be his own actions and his own words.

    His only chance of remaining free is for him to be set above the law. Why you think a lying cheating rapist is worthy of this treatment is a mystery. You certainly aren't going to explain.

    Maybe it's his tough guy gangster persona he puts on for his base, the "You go after me, I'm coming after you" kind of thing.

    Nobody is impressed by Trump's empty threats except the MAGA base and their number dwindles.
     
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  7. shootersa

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    Whatever it takes, eh?

    Trump dared steal the throne promised to their man(woman) and now he and any who dared not support Hillary must be destroyed, humiliated, and forever banished.
     
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      You living in the distant past? ok ok, I'll admit Trump beat Clinton, if admit Biden beat Trump four years later, and the Red Tsunami petered out.
       
      toniter, Aug 13, 2023
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      Funny how it has to bring up Hillary from almost 8 years ago, while Trump lost fair and square to Biden in 2020.
       
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  8. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Do you actually believe this, or is are you repeating it in the hope that someone else will believe it?

    Trump could have avoided all this trouble by not being a rapist lying cheater. The simplest solution would have been to actually be the genius businessman he claimed to be and solve problems instead of creating more. Instead, he bumbled his way through his Presidency and made it incredibly simple to hold him accountable for his crimes. Now, we're expected to believe Trump is being prosecuted because he won the Presidency when a majority of votes were cast for someone else.

    When he was a New York land lord, the worst he could do was cheat on his wives and his taxes, which gave him the opportunity to pay off the women he fucked and then claim the payment as a tax deduction. Trump cheated on his own taxes and enabled his employees to cheat on their taxes. Some of those employees are in prison, while Trump walks free. Then there are his sex crimes. Of course, being a rapist has nothing to do with being a land lord. Any narcissistic sociopath can be a rapist. The don't need to own property

    Being President just broadened Trump's failure horizon. Since he has no sense of accountability, he thinks being able to do something means it has no consequences, so he tries to subvert the election and steals classified documents, all things which wouldn't have been possible if not for being President.

    For the GOP, none of this matters. His crimes while in, or out of the White House should be more than enough to convince any sensible person that Trump is unsuitable for the job and it's time to look elsewhere. There's a shortage of sensible people in the GOP. What they have is plenty of non-sensible people who think it's a good idea to parrot lies and pathetic excuses for Trump's failings, along with baseless accusations against anyone who opposes Trump. It's all preaching to the choir. The base doesn't need lies to keep them voting for Trump. None of the MAGA lies will win over a single new voter, which is the death knell of MAGA. No one new is signing up and the base demographic is moving into the "Don't by green bananas" range.


    This is why the GOP is failing. They think it's necessary to lie to their base in order to win votes and all the voters stupid enough to buy this shit are already on board, or underground.
     
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    1. toniter
      You sum it up better than most of those pundits on tv finding a way to say the same stuff in different ways every day. Thanks,
       
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  9. shootersa

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    And you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wacky anyone else thinks they are.
    You are not entitled to your own set of facts created to feed your opinions.
     
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      I guess you told him !!!
       
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  10. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    You aren't going to state what you believe to be facts, so your opinion is irrelevant.
     
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  11. shootersa

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    Bron shows us his best moves
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      More of your A-game.
       
      Bron Zeage, Aug 14, 2023
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  12. stumbler

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    'Truly scandalous': Jim Jordan slammed by former top DOJ official

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    House Republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan came under fire by a former top U.S. Dept. of Justice official after rushing to defend Donald Trump from his latest indictment.

    Since Monday night when the Fulton County, Georgia grand jury handed up a sprawling 98-page speaking indictment against the ex-president and 18 of his supporters, some Republicans have been pointing to small, selected small portions of the document and claiming that District Attorney Fani Willis is suggesting the acts listed are all illegal.

    Jordan on Tuesday posted one such claim.

    “Mark Meadows asked for a phone number,” he began, adding that former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis “gave legal advice. But somehow the Fulton County DA thinks this is a vast criminal conspiracy? Totally ridiculous.”

    “Maybe the DA should focus on the REAL crime, murders, and corruption happening in her county every day!” Jordan insisted.

    Attorney Michael Bromwich is a former U.S. Dept. of Justice Inspector General who lead several notable probes into the FBI’s investigations, and lead former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s legal team.

    Thursday afternoon he slammed Jordan’s remarks.

    “It’s truly scandalous that the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee doesn’t understand the basics of conspiracy law,” Bromwich said. “Overt acts in furtherance of a conspiracy don’t themselves have to be crimes.”


    Bromwich was not the first to criticize Jordan’s remarks.

    “Oh hi @Jim_Jordan, wanted to let you know that driving is illegal; if you are the getaway driver for a bank robbery,” snarked U.S. Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA), a former JAG attorney.

    “Lighting a match is illegal; if you do it to set fire to a church,” Congressman Lieu continued. “Buying fertilizer is illegal; if you plan to give it to a terrorist to make a bomb. Get it?”


    Referring to the domestic terrorist known as the “Unabomber,” Vanity Fair’s Molly Jong-Fast responded to Jordan’s comment by saying, “This is like saying ted kaczynski was jailed for using the United States postal service.”

    Appearing to point to widespread accusations that Congressman Jordan ignored or disregarded numerous reports of sexual misconduct or sexual assault when he was an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State, historian Kevin Kruse said: “Jim Jordan can’t see the crimes? Huh, that’s new.”




    https://www.rawstory.com/truly-scandalous-jim-jordan-slammed-by-former-top-doj-official/
     
  13. stumbler

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    And here again let's compare and contrast.

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    To Trump, Foreign Business Is Scandalous, Unless It’s His Own
    Peter Baker
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    Former President Donald Trump, a Republican presidential candidate, at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines, Iowa, Aug. 12, 2023. (Jon Cherry/The New York Times)


    WASHINGTON — After his fourth indictment, bringing his total count of felony charges to 91, former President Donald Trump last week posted a video online accusing President Joe Biden and his family of being criminals.

    “The Biden crime family,” he claimed, had received millions of dollars from foreign countries. “I believe we have a compromised president,” Trump said, adding, “He’s a Manchurian candidate. That’s why Crooked Joe is letting other countries walk all over the United States.”



    For Trump, outrage is a selective commodity when it comes to presidential families taking millions of dollars from foreign countries. During his four years in the White House and in the more than 2 1/2 years since, Trump and his relatives have been on the receiving end of money from around the globe in sums far greater than anything Hunter Biden, the president’s son, reportedly collected.



    Unlike other modern presidents, Trump never gave up control of his sprawling business with its interests in multiple countries, nor did he forswear foreign business even as president. He shattered norms in his money making and unabashed boosting of his family’s company. The luxury hotel he opened down the street from the White House, for example, became the favored destination for lobbyists, dealmakers and foreign governments, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain, which paid handsomely for accommodations, galas and more.

    Trump also permitted his family to take positions in government that blurred the lines when it came to their private interests. Unlike Hunter Biden, Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner both served on the White House staff, where they could shape policies of concern to overseas businesses.

    Kushner was heavily involved in setting the administration’s approach to the Middle East and made multiple contacts in the region. After turning in his White House badge, Kushner started a private equity firm with $2 billion in funds from Saudi Arabia and hundreds of millions more from other Arab countries that stood to benefit from U.S. policies and have an interest in a possible second Trump administration.

    “The Trump family foreign commercial entanglements were far more numerous, involving dozens of foreign business conflicts
    ,” said Norman Eisen, a lawyer who led unsuccessful court challenges to the former president’s practice of taking foreign money while in office.

    The entanglements “implicated those like Jared and Ivanka who were actually working in government, whereas Hunter never did,” Eisen added. “Indeed, Trump himself openly benefited, whereas there’s not a shred of evidence that Biden the elder ever did.”

    Hunter Biden’s business dealings have raised concerns because testimony and reports have indicated that he traded on his family name to generate lucrative deals. A former business partner has told congressional investigators that the younger Biden parlayed “the illusion of access to his father” to win over potential partners.

    No hard evidence has emerged that Joe Biden, while vice president, personally participated in or profited from the business deals or used his office to benefit his son’s partners.


    But Biden’s statements distancing himself from his son’s activities have been undercut by testimony indicating that Hunter put his father on speakerphone with international business associates; the future president talked about casual things like the weather, not business, according to testimony, but it seemed intended to impress Hunter’s associates.

    All of which would typically generate scrutiny in Washington, where relatives of presidents have long taken advantage of their positions to make money. Access and celebrity are coins of the realm in the nation’s capital, and a relative who frequents Camp David, enjoys a good seat at a state dinner or rides Air Force One can get phone calls returned. This tradition has turned off many Americans, and even Democrats privately voice discomfort at Hunter Biden’s activities.

    “If he traded on his father’s influence, he should be held accountable for that,” Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., said on MSNBC recently. “And I’m emphasizing this because you never, ever heard a Republican say the same thing about Donald Trump or his family.”

    Republicans investigating the Bidens say they made more than $20 million from foreign sources in China, Ukraine and elsewhere, but a Washington Post analysis of congressional memos indicated that most of the money went to business associates, with $7 million going to the Bidens themselves, mainly Hunter.

    “What both Hunter and Jared have in common is that they are the well-educated sons of prominent people, and that their familial ties certainly helped them in business,” said Don Fox, a former general counsel of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics. “That is where the similarities end.

    “Hunter never held public office, and a fair amount of his work involving Ukraine occurred when his father was out of office,” Fox continued. The amount of money that Kushner could earn from the funds invested by the Saudis, he added, “dwarfs what anyone ever paid Hunter.”

    The analogy to Hunter Biden rankles Kushner, who had a long track record in business before joining government and takes pride in negotiating the Abraham Accords, the diplomatic agreements normalizing relations between Israel and several Arab neighbors.

    People close to him argue that the investments from the Saudis and other Arabs were based on trust that he could make money for them, not out of gratitude for policies he promoted. And they noted that the Biden administration has not reversed those policies but instead sought to build on the Abraham Accords.

    “There is no factual comparison between Hunter and Jared,” a representative for Kushner said in a statement. “Jared was a successful businessman before entering politics, achieved historic peace and trade agreements, and like many before him, he re-entered business after serving for free in the White House, where he fully complied with the Office of Government Ethics rules.”

    Chad Mizelle, the chief legal officer for Affinity Partners, Kushner’s firm, said in a statement, “Partisan politics aside, no one has ever pointed to a specific legal or ethical guideline that Jared or Affinity has violated.”

    One of the few Republicans to criticize the Trump family’s blending of government service and foreign business has been Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor running against the former president for the Republican nomination. “The Trump family have been involved in grifting for quite some time,” he said on CNN in June.

    Christie, who as a U.S. attorney prosecuted Kushner’s father, singled out the business dealings of the former president’s son-in-law.

    “Jared Kushner, six months after he leaves the White House, gets $2 billion from the Saudi sovereign wealth fund,” he said. “What was Jared Kushner doing in the Middle East? We had Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo as secretaries of state. We didn’t need Jared Kushner. He was put there to make those relationships, and then he cashed in on those relationships when he left the office.”

    While in the White House, Kushner bolstered ties between the United States and Saudi Arabia, convincing his father-in-law to make the kingdom his first foreign destination as president, helping broker billions of dollars in arms sales and forging a close relationship with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

    Kushner defended Crown Prince Mohammed after Saudi operatives murdered Jamal Khashoggi, a columnist for The Washington Post and a U.S. resident. The CIA concluded that Crown Prince Mohammed ordered the 2018 killing. In 2021, Crown Prince Mohammed’s sovereign wealth fund approved the $2 billion investment in Kushner’s new firm despite objections from the fund’s own advisers.

    Rep. James Comer, R-Ky. and chair of the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating the Bidens, acknowledged concerns with Kushner’s Saudi deal.

    “I think that what Kushner did crossed the line of ethics,” Comer said when asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper this month. “What Christie said, it happened after he left office. Still no excuse, Jake. But it happened after he left office. And Jared Kushner actually has a legitimate business. This money from the Bidens happened while Joe Biden was vice president, while he was flying to those countries.”

    In fact, as Comer’s committee reports indicate, some of Hunter Biden’s overseas money came while his father was vice president, but a significant share came afterward.

    Spokespeople for Comer and Trump did not respond to requests for comment.

    Trump has never been allergic to foreign money. Even as a candidate in 2016, he secretly pursued a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow until after he had effectively secured the Republican nomination. One of his lawyers reached out to the Kremlin for support for the project — the same Kremlin that Trump would interact with a few months later as president.

    To address concerns about foreign financial interests, Trump promised not to pursue new business overseas while in office, but he did not give up his many existing moneymaking ventures in other countries, and his company, the Trump Organization, formally run by his sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, continued to expand operations abroad.


    During Trump’s four years in the White House, the Trump Organization received 66 foreign trademarks, according to a report by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, with most of them coming from China but others from Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Peru, the Philippines, Indonesia, Mexico, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union.

    Foreign entities were good customers for Trump. While in office, 145 foreign officials from 75 governments visited Trump properties, and foreign governments or affiliated groups hosted 13 events at his hotels and resorts, according to the ethics group report.

    While Trump in last week’s video described Biden as a puppet of the Chinese, falsely claiming that “China has paid him a fortune,” his own family has had significant financial ties to Beijing. Beyond the trademarks, Forbes calculated that a Trump business during his presidency collected at least $5.4 million in rent from the state-controlled Industrial and Commercial Bank of China.

    Kushner’s family negotiated with Chinese and Qatari entities to rescue its debt-saddled New York City tower at 666 Fifth Avenue, eventually brokering a $1.1 billion lease deal with a U.S. company whose investors included Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund. (By that time, Kushner had sold his share of the tower to a family trust of which he was not a beneficiary, and people involved in the deal said the Qataris did not know about the deal beforehand.)


    Ivanka Trump, for her part, initially kept her own clothing and accessories line while serving on the White House staff and received approval for 16 trademarks from China in 2018 before later deciding to shut down the business.

    Despite lawsuits by Eisen and others alleging violations of the Constitution’s emoluments clause, none of the Trump family’s overseas deal-making was ever determined to be illegal by any authority. Nor has any of Hunter Biden’s.

    But in Donald Trump’s telling, one is enough to compromise a president, and the other is not something to talk about.


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      Well said...
       
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  15. shootersa

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    You can smell the desperation in stumblers posts just now.
    The lies, even ones disproven many times, are his stock in trade.
    Whatever it takes, get Trump!
     
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    And which ones are those?
     
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      The entire statement asshat
       
      mstrman, Aug 23, 2023
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      And just as easily, I can call you a liar. You're claiming that Jared didn't get $2B from his hero/assassin?

      You said the whole thing, and yet one fact I cited is true. Can you refute it? Or just sling the shit from your depends?
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 23, 2023
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      Divert subject matter asshat.
       
      mstrman, Aug 23, 2023
    4. anon_de_plume
      LOL! It was in the article that you claimed was wholely false. Guess you're just back taking now.
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 24, 2023
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    That's going well. The indictments keep comming. Still waiting for the GOP indictments against those who stole the 2020 election, eh
     
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    Lazy!
     
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    For starters Kushners deal was above board and legitimate and after trump lost, so no foreign policy insider influence. No shell companies, no money laundering. No cuts for the big guy.

    Trump turned over his business to his kids. Inference to the contrary notwithstanding.

    Those foreign trademarks were in the works long before trump became president and innuendo aside, no influence peddling required.

    The entire article is a recap of all the lies, half truths and propaganda pushed by despicables to get trump since he came down the escalator.

    And stumbler knows it for what it is. A page of bullshit.