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  1. Hush

    Hush Happy Hhedonist

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    So, not only has Trump made it obvious who pulls his strings, he's now considering an arrangement wherein not only will the Russians have access to our innermost ways and means of protecting from them (their offer to work with our people), in the process no doubt presenting coached witnesses to clear them and Trump...

    BUT, they want to in kind start going after some of their own grudges here, and have access to U.S. citizens as though they have law enforcement capability in our own country... In that our people will be compelled by the Trump administration to cooperate.

    White House, State at odds over Putin's interview proposal:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns-interview-proposal/ar-AAAh0ng?ocid=U220DHP

    WASHINGTON — The White House and the State Department are at odds over Russian President Vladimir Putin's offer to allow the U.S. access to Russians accused of election meddling in return for interviews of Americans accused by the Kremlin of unspecified crimes.

    Even as the White House said the offer, made by Putin to President Donald Trump at their summit in Helsinki on Monday, was under consideration, the State Department called Russia's allegations against the Americans "absurd," suggesting that any questioning of them would not be countenanced by the U.S. The Russian claims against the Americans, including former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, relate to allegations of fraud and corruption.

    "The overall assertions that have come out of the Russian government are absolutely absurd: the fact that they want to question 11 American citizens and the assertions that the Russian government is making about those American citizens," spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters.

    McFaul tweeted Wednesday: "I hope the White House corrects the record and denounces in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin. Not doing so creates moral equivalency between a legitimacy US indictment of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin."

    Nauert noted that a U.S. federal court had already rejected Russia's charges regarding British businessman and vocal Kremlin critic Bill Browder. She said Russian authorities already know the U.S. position. Browder was a driving force behind a U.S. law targeting Russian officials over human rights abuses.

    "We do not stand by those assertions that the Russian government makes," Nauert said. "The Prosecutor General in Russia is well aware that the United States has rejected Russian allegations in this regard. ... We continue to urge Russian authorities to work with the U.S. Department of Justice to pursue those in Russia who in fact perpetrated the fraudulent scheme that Russia refers to that targeted not only Mr. Browder, but also his company and ... the Russian people as a whole."

    FBI Director Christopher Wray was similarly dismissive. Speaking Wednesday at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado, he said Putin's offer was "not high on our list of investigative techniques."

    Wray and Nauert's comments stood in sharp contrast to those of White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who held open the possibility that what Trump called "an incredible offer" is being weighed.

    "The president's going to meet with his team, and we'll let you know when we have an announcement on that," she said, adding that neither Trump nor anyone else in the administration had committed to accepting the offer.


    So not only are the Russian's in charge of Trump, yet he's considering putting them in where U.S. law enforcement should be.

    Tell me again he's not giving the nation away...

    Hush....an alias
     
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    1. shootersa
      Browder .................... Browder ..................... Bill Browder??

      Isn't he the fellow who made BILLIONS doing business in Russia, and then denounced his American citizenship so he wouldn't have to pay US taxes?

      That Browder??

      Huh.
       
      shootersa, Jul 19, 2018
    2. Hush
      You don't take the first step unless you're willing to take many more in a direction... Be very careful now, the whole "it's okay for him but not for me" argument based upon it stops there never pans out.

      Hush....an alias
       
      Hush, Jul 19, 2018
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  2. deleted user 777 698

    deleted user 777 698 Porn Star Banned!

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    It is a pity you do not understand the art of negotiation... go USA!
     
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    1. imported__2355
      Nice negotiation. Putin gets everything he wants, our President capitulates to him on world wide TV. Even his 'Art Of The Deal' ghostwriter says Trump is getting senile.
       
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  3. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    So as I read this, it's okay for the Russians to subject their citizens to interviews about alleged crimes against the US, but not ok for the US to allow the Russians to interview US citizens about alleged crimes committed against Russia.

    Is that about right?
     
    1. imported__2355
      We aren't interviewing any indicted Russians. They are persona non grata here. If they come to the US on their own they will be arrested. If they offer to talk on their own it's their business. But the idea that the US would compel any citizen to answer Russian charges, particularly a former U.S. Ambassador, is ludicrous.
       
      imported__2355, Jul 19, 2018
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  4. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    BTW, @Hush , if you're staggering, you might want to cut down whatever it is that you are imbibing.
     
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  5. Hush

    Hush Happy Hhedonist

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    Gee, let's think about this for a moment. Do you seriously believe that individuals that are known trained operatives of Russian intelligence are going to roll over on their own government that directed them and supplied resources to do this, and suddenly make all of their work (to get a stooge in office) simply be chucked out the window... OR...do you think that they might instead spin some BS story that clears Russia and legitimizes their own stooge?

    Naturally, they have ZERO fear of prosecution by us if the former, yet absolute fear of retribution by their own nation... BUT, expect praise for the latter by Russia, and no fear of prosecution by us.

    Don't be obtuse...


    You people need to QUIT backing arguments simply to defend your choice for President. You need to start defending America first. When Trump is gone, that is the America you'll be living in, and if that doesn't matter, than I'm forced to question your allegiance.

    Hush....an alias
     
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      I'll let your posts over the past few weeks do the speaking for you. Anyone who cares to question what I say, simply look over the various threads you have commented in.

      I'll stand by the same measure.

      Hush....an alias
       
      Hush, Jul 19, 2018
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    3. tenguy
      You are proving Reagan's observation to be correct.
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
    4. Hush
      I'll let your posts over the past few weeks do the speaking for you. Anyone who cares to question what I say, simply look over the various threads you have commented in.

      I'll stand by the same measure.

      Hush....an alias
       
      Hush, Jul 19, 2018
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    5. tenguy
      You are proving Reagan's observation to be correct.
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
    6. Hush
      ^^^^Communist Sympathizer^^^^

      You, not Reagan.

      Hush....an alias
       
      Hush, Jul 19, 2018
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  6. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    The only thing donnie is negotiating between him and Vlad is getting his hands on some prime real estate to build another of his many trump golf courses.

    Both Vlad and donnie are driven by how much they can fill up their bank balances.....the welfare of their countries doesn't come into it.
     
    1. tenguy
      And this concerns you, how?
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
    2. 69magpie
      Come on TG, really???.
      I'd expect that query from Smithy but I thought you had more smarts than him.

      You guys obviously have no problem with corrupt politicians, yes they all get back handers but they usually wait till after they have finished with their politicking, well they do in Oz.

      Why isn't his daughter's chinese made clothes line subject to trade tarriffs.

      Why is it that donnie is willing to play soft ball with the likes of Vlad and Kim but he's playing hard ball with the US's long time allies.
       
      69magpie, Jul 19, 2018
    3. tenguy
      Because your opinion does not matter.

      BTW, why did you pick out Ivanka's clothing line? All clothing is exempt from trade tariffs. Maybe because the long time allies have taken advantage of our generosity for way too long. Do you consider China a long time ally of the US?
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
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      I winder why all clothing is exempt from tariffs ?
      Surely when your off out to buy your American steel , and American coal , and American made cars etc ,
      surely you should be wearing
      American cotton .
       
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  7. shadowfap

    shadowfap Fap Happy Jester

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    These MAGA fuckers won't be satisfied until this nation is under Russian rule.
     
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    1. tenguy
      Spoken as a true unsupporter.
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
    2. anon_de_plume
      So, then we can assume that you support the wholesale giveaway of the United States to a foreign power.
       
      anon_de_plume, Jul 19, 2018
    3. shootersa
      WARNING TENGUY, WARNING!
      Pigeons approach, do NOT engage them!
       
      shootersa, Jul 19, 2018
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      Mr Smith tries his best to refrain from replying to the pigeon in chief. He had discovered the pigeon in chief does indeed have a bird brain. However, he just doesn't seem to get the message...
       
      deleted user 777 698, Jul 20, 2018
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      Yes, in other words you are unwilling to actually admit there is no revolution, there is no message, and there is no defense for Trump.

      But hey, you keep right on playing chess with your pigeons and pretending that the problem is the unsupporters.

      It looks good on you!
       
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  8. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    Explain it then, oh legal expert!
     
    1. deleted user 777 698
      See...right on cue.
       
      deleted user 777 698, Jul 20, 2018
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  9. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    Did you miss the part that said the US course already rejected their request? I'll just assume that you did miss it and that you are just playing along with Trump's stupidity because you support everything he does blindly.
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Courts not course...
       
      anon_de_plume, Jul 19, 2018
    2. NoOneFamous
      The court (there was only one) did not reject the Russians "interviewing" Mr. McFaul. If Lying Donny agrees to this, the question I have is - where would this "interview" take place? If it is the Russian embassy, then if I were Mr. McFaul, I would be getting a damn good lawyer and consider asking for asylum in the UK or Canada.
       
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  10. CS natureboy

    CS natureboy Porn Star

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    Yeah, and I hear that Trump is planning on selling the Russian's 20% of our uranium.

    Oh wait, that already happen.....
     
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      Funny, but sadly true.
       
      Will88, Jul 21, 2018
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  11. freethinker

    freethinker Pervy Bear

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    So, before the Trumpies jump on this deal to swap so-called criminals, consider this -

    If (and I'm being generous here just saying if) Russian agents did meddle in the American elections, they would have done so under orders from their government, and would not be considered criminals there as they would here. Conversely, any American intelligence agents who operated in Russia would be considered criminals there, but not here. So are we to turn over our operatives to Russia for interrogation and/or prosecution if we make this deal?

    Trumpies, use your brains for something besides a suppository.
     
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    1. tenguy
      You clearly did not read the concessions.
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
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  12. HisBabyGirl

    HisBabyGirl Always & Forever His

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    If it weren't such a train wreck, it would almost be laughable. Trump speaks, then back tracks, then changes his mind, then denies and ALWAYS blames the fake new media. Donny, you really need to watch the videos that were being filmed while the words came out of your mouth. This is not fake news.

    And any leader who offers to send its citizens to another country for interrogation is no leader.
     
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      He and we did not offer or agree to SEND our citizens to Russia for interrogation, that is a bold faced lie.
       
      tenguy, Jul 19, 2018
    3. imported__2355
      Allowing our citizens to be placed in the power of foreign agents, even while on US soil, is shameful, you Trumpian brown noser.
       
      imported__2355, Jul 19, 2018
    4. tenguy
      Being asked questions is not being placed under anyone's power, you guys are so fucking pathetic.
       
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    5. imported__2355
      Pathetic is a US President capitulating to a foreign power on world wide television. And his poodle followers.
       
      imported__2355, Jul 19, 2018
    6. tenguy
      Like I said, you are fucking pathetic. You aren't satisfied with the incredibly broad array of facts against Trump, you have to try to invent some.
       
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  13. naztypanty

    naztypanty Porn Star

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    I want to take America back... to when Republicans said "better dead than red."
     
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    1. tenguy
      Another fabrication.
       
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  14. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    You really seem or act like you really don't know what's going on. Why do you keep trying to Voice your opinion ,it's clear you don't understand what's really going on in the real world. But you do look good with your clothes off lol. Vintage
     
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  15. AyaLaRoux

    AyaLaRoux Porn Star

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    Explain it, then.
     
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  16. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Vintage? VINTAGE!

    Oh buddy, if you are smart you'll start wearing a steel cup. Hush just might decide to wear your balls around her "vintage" neck. And don't think she can't do it, if she decides to. Better men than you have underestimated the Hush, and done so to their eternal sorrow.
     
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  17. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    You may be afraid but I'm not. I read all her stuff. Even in other languages no fear
     
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  18. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Okay. Well. Don't say you weren't warned.
    [​IMG]

    Shooter hears Hush coming down the hall and backs out quietly but with some haste. He calls Stanley to warn him of the coming "disturbance".
     
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      He has a vivid imagination but have no fear the Hush character is harmless. I'm not sure about the porno star though.
       
      deleted user 777 698, Jul 23, 2018
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  19. Hush

    Hush Happy Hhedonist

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    @shootersa ; Thanks for the kind words, though I think you overestimate Truthful1's value to, or impact upon me. He is simply an inconsequential sock, not even worth consideration. Although, the effort I must devote to scrolling past his inane posts is unreasonable considering how insignificant he is to me... So there is that.

    Hush....an alias
     
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  20. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    What took you so long lol
     
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