If anything you 2 should come to an agreement to have an open type relationship. Honestly,i just cant agree on cheating.

 

Thinking about man to man contact

I am in a sexless marraige, and would like to be taken slowly into the man to man side of life. Would start with mutual masturbation only I think

 

guess u can count me in

love the female body, don't get turned on by a man's face or body
but lately i find a big hard erect very desirable, I guess the best combo
would be a she-male.

 

i do. when im horny i sometimes have fantasies about guys and if the opportunity presented itself i would probably suck a dick. but when im thinkin more logically i prefer girls.

 

I agree with Bishop on this point...come to a agreement for open relationship or swaping or what ever it takes to make it work butr as a man who found his wife cheeting I agree with no cheeting it caused to many problems with her guilt feelings we are now divorsed so its kind of a moot point now

 

There comes a point where too much communication leads to resent and anger. Sometimes two people cannot agree on a subject, no matter how much they talk about it and sometimes the more they talk about it the wider the chasm between them gets. I, for one, was not trying to insult you because of your age but there are some things we learn over time and there are also some things that just cannot be taught to someone with no experience in the subject. If you ever wonder why older people (parents) just shake their heads and walk away... that's it.

My first marriage was to a manipulative bitch for three years who was not satisfied with our way of life and took every opportunity to complain because I worked too much and she didn't have enough money to waste on herself. She also could not (would not) hold down a job of her own. Eventually we stopped communicating entirely and she finally started seeing someone else. The happiest day was when we decided to get divorced.

I also said I would never get married again. I was truly hurt and disgusted with myself for getting into such a crappy situation. Thankfully there were no children created by this mistake. That would just have ruined more lives.

However I did get married and almost lost her because of my "won't get married" attitude. She stuck with me and I realized that I could do it again. 18 years later we are still together. Is it the dream life? No. Do we love each other? Yes! Do we talk about EVERYTHING? NO!

Don't judge others without having some knowledge of the implications of your statements. Don't give up on marriage because it is a good thing. Both of these statements come from experience.

 

yes i did it

I really like to suck
I tryed it , and i loved it

 

Absolutely correct. Your point is well taken. Experience is the best and only teacher, as many here have found out over the years. Comments from those without it is merely speculation and has little validity without the "dirt tiime" ( experience) to support the issues. There is nothing wrong with opinions but they would have much more credilbility if the person stating them had 'walked a mile or two in the other man's shoes'. Thanks again for your candor and your comments I think we all benefit from you experiences..

 

+1trillion

+1trillion... again.

ah! so those who are younger than you have no valid opinions... so seeing as you have never been a politician we should discount all of your opinions on politics and seeing as you've never been a sportsman we should discount all of your opinions on sports?

fucking hell... if people are incapable of communicating with someone about the sex they are not getting then you two should have never been together.

i am in a long term relationship and we have had the marriage conversation and we plan on not marrying. so erm... not everyone not planning on marrying is inexperienced or stupid.

communication is the key to any and every relationship, whatever you say. being jaded because you are in a shit enough relationship that you cannot talk to the woman you professed to love through thick and thin in front of your friends and family is not, repeat not an excuse to cheat.

every relationship at some point has issues that need to be addressed. people committed to maintaining a good and healthy relationship talk about it before it becomes too fucking late.

 

+infinite number.
I guess communication is too hard for some people?
The fact that people would rather cheat on a spouse,rather than have a civil conversation is pathetic. And if you still cannot resolve the issue,be mature enough to leave the situation,or atleast be in an open relationship,where "cheating" isnt even an issue.

 

tell me about it... i mean, you're immature because you're 18rolleyes, and i'm immature because i've had a mature discussion with my partner and we concluded together that marriage is a bad idea for usrolleyes... but these cheaters incapable of an awkward discussion with their spouse are the most immature of the lot. you can create a child together, you can get a joint bank account together, you can but cars and houses and holidays together, you can deal with mother-in-laws but you can't open your mouth about something that is important to you?

give me a break, cheaters.

 

BenP, I agree with your comments. For reasons I won't go into here, someone who is not living in yours, or my, situation, can not understand our reasons for our opinions.

Swan and Bishop, I can understand your position(s), but what if you communicate and communicate and communicate with your spouse and STILL you disagree? You're firm on your stance and your spouse is firm on theirs. And what if this sexual disagreement happens AFTER you've been married for 25+ yrs?? You've already planned for retirement income, etc. Do you want to give it all up in a divorce and lose your home, your retirement income, etc.? I don't; I will stick it out and deal with it and be somewhat unhappy/depressed for the rest of my life. I won't cheat because I, personally, don't condone cheating but if someone else is in a similar situation and they can live with cheating, so be it.

I understand your desire to try to solve the problem with communication but sometimes it can't be solved to the mutual satisfaction of both people (like my situation). Someone on the outside looking in is not aware of all the intracacies of a particular relationship that cause people to make the decisions they make. So we live with the status quo and continue to be unhappy. That might be my choice, or BenP's choice, but it's not necessarily going to be the choice of everyone in a similar situation. Everyone's different.

OK, flame me if you must. But since you don't know my situation, you can't possibly understand the reason(s) for my decision. The same thing goes for anyone else that is unhappy in their marriage, whether they chose to cheat or not.

 

Like i said,then you agree to be in an OPEN relationship.
So your no longer "cheating".

 

But "open relationship" is not an option if the spouse is happy with the status quo and thinks nothing is wrong with the current relationship, thinking THEIR position is the correct one and MY/YOUR position is the incorrect one.

 

So..the happy cheating husband can continue to cheat because it makes him happy?

Cheating requires the other half NOT knowing about it.
Agree to be in an open relationship,so the spouse that isnt cheating,doesnt get hurt because you want to get off.

 

First of all, I'm not cheating. I had the opportunity and chose not to. I would certainly be happy to be in an "open" relationship (as opposed to cheating) except that my spouse thinks OUR problem is actually MY problem so an "open" relationship is not agreeable to her.

Secondly, I'm thinking (perhaps incorrectly) that some "happy cheating husband" might not be happy when they're cheating, but they may view it as one way to avoid depression; it's THEIR way of getting through/dealing with THEIR life. I'm not saying their choice, or my choice, is always right or suitable for everyone. It's a decision that has to be made by each individual.

I was always told, and firmly believed (note past tense), that honesty is the best policy. After the past 10 yrs of my life, I can honestly say that that is not necessarily true. Sometimes, ignorance truly IS bliss (for everyone involved)!

 

I wasnt referring to you,i was talking in generalities.

Cheating is not an okay way to deal with your problems,or escape issues or...temporarily forget about being depressed.
Its actually extremely selfish. I would have no issue if cheating didnt have a negative effect on the noncheating spouse,but it does,and thats why its called "cheating".

 

i consider myself straight or bi-curious and yes i have sucked a cock before and i do fantasize about sucking other mens cocks sometimes as well. my childhood best friend and i used to masturbate together and one day he dared me to suck his cock and i loved every minute of it. from then on i would suck his dick on a weekly basis. now i usually only dream about sucking another cock when im horny and it usually wears off when my sex drive goes away, but if the oppurtunity presented itself again, and the situation/person was right, then i would not hesitate to pleasure another man.

 

I didn't think you were but I wanted to clarify. The rest of my first comment DOES apply to me. And I'm interested in hearing your solution to that situation.

I understand your thoughts on cheating but for some people it's the last option and it's one they choose to live with. Right or wrong by your or my standards, it works for them. And if they're not happy, and nothing else is possible for whatever reason, then they'll try it and live with the consequences. I don't see where it's your or my place to tell them it's wrong; WE can't possibly know all the reasons behind their decision to cheat but something drove them to consider it and eventually try it.

Like I said, sometimes, ignorance is bliss for everyone involved (at least until the spouse finds out). And if the spouse never finds out and is otherwise happy throughout their married life, then who's to say it's a bad choice FOR HIM (or them)?

 

Well,thats extremely selfish of your wife. Personally if i were you id seek couples therapy,because hey,if your gonna stick it out. Might as well make the best of it. Maybe she needs an unbiased 3rd party to explain things.

I guess i really dont care if the cheater is happy,im more concerned about the victim. If the other spouse doesnt find out,Why risk that?

I mean we are talking on the terms of sex. Cheating just to be sexually satisfied. Get a fleshlight and save your spouse the grief.
It seems like ALOT to risk,just to suck a dick.