Again. Not a president. A mentally ill resident at a nursing home. That carried around our nation's secrets in boxes.

Trump didn't trust the Pentagon's method for disposing of classified documents and kept unread files in a cardboard box near his desk: New York Times
Cheryl Teh
Thu, September 1, 2022 at 10:14 PM·2 min read




Former President Donald Trump didn't trust the CIA and Pentagon's method of destroying classified documents, per The New York Times.Alex Brandon/AP

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  Trump had a cardboard box next to his desk where he kept unread documents, per the New York Times.
  
  
• While details of the box's contents remain unclear, Trump would travel with it, per The Times.
  
  
• The Times also reported that Trump didn't trust how the Pentagon got rid of classified documents.
  

During his time in office, former President Donald Trump kept a cardboard box near his desk in which he stored documents that he had yet to read, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

The Times spoke to former Trump administration officials and staffers who gave some insight into how he handled documents.

According to the outlet, Trump had mistrusted burn bags, which were the designated means by which the Pentagon and the CIA disposed of top-secret documents.

Per the unnamed former officials that spoke to the Times, Trump didn't believe the material would be destroyed. Instead, he resorted to tearing up documents — including those with his handwriting on them — and tossing them into the toilet.

The Times also reported that Trump would place unread briefing books and other files in a cardboard box near his desk. Per the outlet, this box would get taken away when it was full and was brought with Trump aboard Air Force One when he traveled.

While the officials didn't recall seeing top-secret documents going into the box, they told The Times that there was a fair amount of chaos behind the scenes in the last days of the Trump administration.

John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, also told The Times that Trump would occasionally remark about how something was interesting and ask to keep it.

"For Trump, every time you ask for something back, it implies you don't trust him," Bolton told The Times, adding that staffers would not always succeed in trying to get something back from Trump.

A representative at Trump's post-presidential press office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Insider.

The FBI is investigating whether Trump broke three federal laws, including the Espionage Act, by keeping classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. While executing a search warrant on the property earlier this month, agents seized 11 sets of classified documents. Per The Washington Post, some of the documents were marked top secret and concerned nuclear weapons.

Read the original article on Business Insider

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-didnt-trust-pentagons-method-041441056.html

 

More propaganda. No named source in the story. Innuendo and inference but no facts we can check or confirm.

The american hater is resorting more and more to propaganda to sell his agenda.
Sad.

 

So, John Bolton is nobody?

 

Oh gosh, you're right anon, John Bolton was mentioned in the story!
Lets see what bombshell breaking news he contributed!
*holds breath

"John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, also told The Times that Trump would occasionally remark about how something was interesting and ask to keep it.
"For Trump, every time you ask for something back, it implies you don't trust him," Bolton told The Times, adding that staffers would not always succeed in trying to get something back from Trump."
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OH. MY. GOD!
Well! That does it. Trump is cooked now. He'll be in jail before dark with these revelations!!

*Big sigh of relief ...............

 

Oh, you meant sources you'd accept. My bad...

 

Well, its telling you give weight to anything anonymous says. That rascal should have been fired by Trump 5 years ago.

 

Federal judge orders appointment of special master to review seized Trump records
Special master will review records seized in FBI raid of Trump's home

A federal judge ordered Monday that an independent special master be appointed to review the records seized by the FBI during its raid of former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and ordered the Justice Department stop its own review of the material for investigative purposes.

U.S. District Judge from the Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen M. Cannon ordered that the special master be appointed to "review the seized property, manage assertions of privilege and make recommendations thereon, and evaluate claims for return of property."

"The Court hereby authorizes the appointment of a special master to review the seized property for personal items and documents and potentially privileged material subject to claims of attorney- client and/or executive privilege," the order states. "Furthermore, in natural conjunction with that appointment, and consistent with the value and sequence of special master procedures, the Court also temporarily enjoins the Government from reviewing and using the seized materials for investigative purposes pending completion of the special master’s review or further Court order."

The order, though, "shall not impede the classification review and/or intelligence assessment by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence ("ODNI") as described in the Government’s Notice of Receipt of Preliminary Order."

 

Hillary Clinton walks through how top secret docs were delivered in a locked briefcase: 'How did he get them?'

Sarah K. Burris
September 07, 2022



Hillary Clinton. (AFP/File / Don Emmert)


As a former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton said she can't understand how top secret documents were even allowed outside of the eyes of those who manage them, much less to Mar-a-Lago.

Speaking to the hosts of "The View," Clinton said that it should be taken very seriously but she wasn't rushing to judgment unfairly because people rushed to judge her unfairly.

"It shouldn't be partisan," Clinton said. "It should concern every American because those documents and the empty folders as they were marked suggest that there was really important secret information that is essential to our country's defensive security. And when the report came out yesterday that the documents also included information about we don't know which, an ally or an adversary's nuclear program — I cannot tell you how terrifying that is, and Alyssa, you know because you were at the defense department."

She went on to recall times when something was happening that was an emergency situation and that there wasn't time to get to the secure facility at the White House for a meeting in person.

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"And a man walked in, and he would have, like, a briefcase locked to his wrist," Clinton said. "And he would come into my office and he would say, 'You have to look at this immediately, secretary.' He would unlock the briefcase. He would stand there. He would give me this document that had really delicate, secret information about something of importance. I would read it. Then I would sign that I read it. It would go back into the locked box attached to his wrist and off he would go. So, I don't understand how these documents ended up where they are. I don't understand how he was permitted to take them, even to the residence let alone to a country club in Florida. I don't understand it."

The co-hosts asked where the guy with the handcuffed briefcase was in the Trump administration.

"We don't have yet an understanding of what was in them. We're getting little dribs and drabs like the nuclear posture of an ally or an adversary, but I do -- I mean, people literally die to get our government information," said Clinton. "They go to prison. They get exiled. It's dangerous oftentimes, and the idea that this would have been done, I hope everybody takes really seriously. It is not some casual, try to come up with some, you know, throwaway --"

"It's not like an overdue library book," Sunny Hostin suggested.

READ: Trump ordered a nuclear reactor on the moon in his final days as president

She closed by saying that the facts and the evidence should be presented before any "prejudgment." She wants to hear the details about how they ended up at Mar-a-Lago and who else saw them, "because they've been moved around, they weren't in a vault... so we need to wait. We need to have two minds about this: no one is above the law and the rule of law has to be our standard. But, we should not rush to judgment. We should take it seriously. We should be concerned about it and we should follow the facts and the evidence."

Watch video below or at this link.

https://www.rawstory.com/hillary-clinton-trump-documents-scandal/

 

Hey Hillary!
What little man with the case handcuffed to his wrist let you get TOP SECRET documents on your server???

 

What-about-ism!

Trump's guilt or innocence hinges only on him and his actions. No matter how many other cases cited, similar of not, in no way changes what Trump did. His case is completely separate from any other case.

 

Oh, so hillary can talk about how hard it is to possess top secret documents but asking how they then ended up on her server is your version of "whataboutism"?

Did you miss the obvious problem with her claim? Or are you blind to criticism of your man(woman)?

 

All the waddabouts in Christendom won't pull Trump out of the cess pit he dug with his bare hands.

It's just a shame that despite all the best efforts, nobody ever found a good enough reason to put Hillary in prison. It wouldn't actually help Trump right now, even if they had.

Trump doesn't need waddabouts. He needs a defense that will stand up in court. The poor guy is charged with stealing top secret documents and then compounded the problem by obstructing the investigation. It's a grim situation for the Donald.

The moment where Trump stands up and says, "I can explain", has kind of slipped by, but that's what's needed The problem is, Trump is just not very good at explaining. For most of his life, he never needed to explain anything. There was never a jam when he couldn't buy his way out, or just walk away.

What Trump needs more than ever someone who can offer a plausible explanation. It's obvious he can't do it for himself.
It doesn't have to be true and probably better for Trump if it's not. Right now, truth and facts are not his friends.

If any of Trump's loyal supporters have an explanation, message him on Truth Social. Don't waste time, because the word is, TS won't be around much longer.

 

Most Americans see Trump's MAGA as threat to democracy: Reuters/Ipsos poll, September 8, 2022

WASHINGTON, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Days after Democratic President Joe Biden gave a fiery speech attacking former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies as an extremist threat, a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Wednesday found a majority of Americans believe Trump's movement is undermining democracy.

Fifty-eight percent of respondents in the two-day poll - including one in four Republicans - said Trump's "Make America Great Again" movement is threatening America's democratic foundations.

 

or traitors.

 

Yet a lot of the republican candidates up for election in Nov are openly Trump supporters. So Trump still has a tight grip on the repuke base.

 

Any GOP candidate with a fraction of a realistic outlook knows Trump is crashing. It costs absolutely nothing to support someone who isn't going to show up for the game.

As usual with Trumpettes, support and defense are two different things. We'll note that all the support for Trump is along the mealy mouthed lines of, "We don't know the facts," and "This a political vendetta".

Nobody, not even the Trumpiest of Trump supporters on this forum, will say, "Trump didn't do it," or "Trump had the legal power to do it".

Everybody knows Trump is guilty as charged. The only question is how many people are willing to stay below deck as the SS Trump becomes an oil slick.

The elegance of the Stolen Top Secret documents is it's all Trump. Except for a few gullible lawyers, nobody else had to worry about Grand Jury indictments.

There are plenty of conspirators who hope MarLagate will satisfy the appetite for Trump hide and their participation in the election scandal will be forgotten. That's not likely, but none of them got into their current situation because they were smart.

 

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I give the fuck up. "MarLagate." Why didn't I think of that. Come to think of it why didn't some of those left wing propaganda sites I hang out on come up with that.

You read it here first folks.

 

Weaponize the DOJ!

 

Why Barr is breaking from Trump — and the GOP — over Mar-a-Lago search
by Brett Samuels - 09/11/22 6:00 AM ET

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Former Attorney General William Barr has emerged as one of the most prominent conservatives to suggest former President Trump may be in serious legal jeopardy over his handling of sensitive materials, underscoring the growing divide between the former president and his onetime staunch ally.

Barr has become a regular presence on Fox News over the past few weeks, weighing in on the FBI search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida and subsequent court battles over what the Department of Justice (DOJ) can do with what it found.


It’s not the first time Barr, a frequent target of criticism from Democrats as attorney general, has broken with Trump. Nor is he the first former Trump Cabinet member to become critical of the former president.

But he has stood out recently for his willingness to undercut not just Trump’s own defense but the preferred narrative of Trump’s allies and wide swaths of the Republican Party.

“Bill Barr has been a real law and order kind of guy and has been strongly protective of national security interests and Department of Justice interests,” said Alan Morrison, a law professor at George Washington University.

“And I think he’s always seen himself as being on that side: Tough on people who violate criminal laws, and I think his remarks here are in keeping with that. He’s trying to protect the Justice Department, which he headed not once but twice,” Morrison said.

Barr has in fact just done that, offering defenses of the Justice Department and the legitimacy of its investigation into Trump in a series of Fox News appearances over the past two weeks.

The former attorney general earlier in the month pushed back on various defenses Trump and his team have offered in response to the FBI raid, telling Fox News he was skeptical that Trump had declassified everything he took to Mar-a-Lago as the former president had claimed.




“Let me just say, I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this [raid] was unprecedented — well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay,” Barr said.

Barr has also been critical of Trump’s push for a special master to review the documents taken by the FBI. The former attorney general called the legal strategy a “red herring” since federal authorities likely had already sifted through most of the seized materials.

Barr urged the Justice Department this week to appeal Judge Aileen Cannon’s ruling in favor of appointing a special master, calling the decision “deeply flawed in a number of ways.”




In an appearance on Fox on Thursday, Barr said he believes the Justice Department is “getting very close” to the point where they could indict someone in the case, including potentially Trump.

The comments were notable coming from a man who Democrats and some legal experts criticized throughout his latest tenure as attorney general, accusing him of viewing himself as the president’s lawyer rather than the country’s.

“I think it’s partially a repudiation of Trump but it’s much more in wearing his law and order hat than a repudiation of Trump,” Morrison said.


Barr’s Fox News appearances undercutting Trump are the latest example of what has been a steadily growing divide between the two men.

One former Trump administration official said there is no love lost between Trump and Barr, and the relationship had been steadily deteriorating since the 2020 election, when Trump was irked that his attorney general publicly said he hadn’t found evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Barr was a key witness for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, with recordings of his closed-door depositions featuring prominently in the panel’s public hearings.

Barr told the panel he believed Trump’s claims about election fraud were “bullshit,” “nonsense” and “idiotic.” One hearing featured video of Barr saying he worried Trump had become “detached from reality” as he raised the false premise that voting machines were designed to rig the election.

Trump, who has frequently derided his former attorney general as a “RINO,” or “Republican in Name Only,” used the same insult in response to Barr’s commentary on Fox in which he said authorities likely had good evidence to pursue its search of Trump’s home.

“Bill Barr had ‘no guts,’ and got ‘no glory,’” Trump wrote on Truth Social last week. “He was a weak and pathetic RINO [Republican in name only], who was so afraid of being Impeached that he became a captive to the Radical Left Democrats.”

While the vast majority of conservatives have lined up behind Trump to offer shifting defenses of the former president and criticize the Justice Department as politicized, a few conservatives and former Trump officials have joined Barr in publicly recognizing the seriousness of the matter.

Former Vice President Mike Pence, who is viewed as laying the groundwork for a 2024 bid, said in New Hampshire late last month that he was “deeply troubled” by the search but added the public needs to “let the facts play out” and condemned attacks on law enforcement.

Ty Cobb, who served as a lawyer in Trump’s White House during the Russia investigation, told CBS News on Friday he believes Trump is “in serious legal water,” not just because of the ongoing investigation into his handling of classified documents, but because of efforts to change the outcome of the 2020 election in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania and elsewhere.

Like Barr, Cobb told the news outlet he believes the possibility of Trump being indicted is “very high.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...rom-trump-and-the-gop-over-mar-a-lago-search/