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  1. darkride

    darkride Porn Star

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    Look familiar...
     
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    1. xmo.bil
      You know that we had the eagle before the Nazis?
       
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Those who have done nothing wrong have no reason to fear from the IRS.

    The over all tax system in the United States is mildly progressive, while the distribution of wealth and income is grotesquely unequal.

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    1. Valerie Noirblossom
      We should go back to when America really was great - when the top bracket tax rate was 92%

      But MAGA-heads are suckers who have no idea how anything actually works, so they insist on shooting themselves in the foot.
       
      Valerie Noirblossom, Mar 2, 2024
  3. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    The great thing about America is that anyone, regardless of heritage, sex, social standing or religion can be part of "the rich".

    Liberals want to take what someone earned and share it with those who are too lazy or stupid to accomplish success on their own.
     
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    1. darkride
      As an American you have less than a 10% chance of becoming rich, if you are born poor. The whole "you can be rich" thing is essentially a myth to keep the poor dreaming and not rebelling.
       
      darkride, Feb 28, 2024
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    2. shootersa
      Might be that way in aussie land, but this is America. The chance of becoming a starter in the NFL is probably smaller but thats because there are only about 600 starters to begin with.
      Becoming "rich" has no limitations except what you put in your own path.
       
      shootersa, Feb 28, 2024
    3. darkride
      LOLOLOL

      Ok - I don't know about Australia.... But the stats I looked at said that if you were born poor in the UK, you had about a 10% chance at "becoming rich", and if you were born poor in the Mighty U S of A, you had a 7% chance.

      So.... Yeah - the AMAZING United States is LESS likely to see rags to riches stories than the UK.
       
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  4. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Rich people did not become rich because of hard work, honesty, and decency. They were born with rich parents, and/or rare and valuable talents. A few lucky breaks along the way helped too.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Nope.
      Anyone can become "rich" through work, focus and discipline.
       
      shootersa, Feb 28, 2024
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    2. darkride
      @Distant Lover I think I understand shooter's problem now... He really believes all the bullshit that's fed to him.
       
      darkride, Feb 29, 2024
    3. shootersa
      Shooter has seen the proof of what he believes. He doesn't need some paid pundit telling him what to think, like sheltered snowflakes afraid of their own shadow.
       
      shootersa, Feb 29, 2024
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    1. BigSuzyB
      You always cheat us. Four degrees in higher education and you give us memes.
      Rather unlettered ones at that.
       
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      And if you had a brain you’d know that memes require more intelligence than your words.
       
      mstrman, Feb 28, 2024
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      :bawling:
       
      BigSuzyB, Feb 29, 2024
  6. shootersa

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    The trolls just want the attention and opportunity to spew.
     
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    Hmmmm, so are you speaking for all paupers, or just yourself?

    It has become obvious that being indigent has left you resentful and jealous of people who are better off than you.

    You seem like a very unhappy person in general and I doubt having money would changed that...
     
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      Another troll.
       
      mstrman, Feb 29, 2024
  9. darkride

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    Only 7% of Americans are millionaires. Their children have a 22% chance of being rich once they reach adulthood.

    If you are born poor in America however, the likelihood of ending up with an income over over $300k is 1%.

    "Rags to riches" is a fairy tell told by rich people to keep poor people dreaming, and not hunting them down with all those guns they sell to them.
     
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    1. sirius1902
      Wow! I can't believe this poor ole kid beat the odds....
       
      sirius1902, Feb 29, 2024
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      Me too.
       
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  10. shootersa

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    You can always spot the people who failed at life.
    They blame anything and everyone for being failures.
    They support cradle to grave government handouts paid for by those rich greedy fat cats.
    But above all they claim that only the rich can be rich.
    You see, their failure is explained as societies fault.
     
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    1. darkride
      Actually I base my information on facts, shooter, but you keep going along in your own little world of dreams and fantasies. I know it works well for you. Guns don't kill people. Unwanted pregnancies are just happy little miracles without any cost to anyone. Vaccinations are poison and no one died from COVID. Oh, and all it takes is a bit of work for the poor to become rich. Such a wonderful land you live in.
       
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  11. shootersa

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    Triggered dark ass is triggered.
    His rosy little world is not so rosy as he contemplates how he can fix America.
    Only then will his rosy world be rosy again.
     
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    1. darkride
      Yes shooter, you trigger me so much, I just keep coming back for more. More shaking my head at your inability to see the bloody massacres occurring daily in your own country... to see the inequalities, the failed health system, the failed education system, the failed political system if Trump actually gains power again (and then redefines "democracy"), the corruption, the toxic capitalism, the country that is SO rich and SO powerful that it had to invent the Double Coffin due to morbid obesity...

      I have no delusions, shooter - I will never play a part in fixing your broken country. China will do that for me over the next 30-odd years, and power shifts more and more away from the once Mighty U S of A, and the world learns Mandarin, but not our colleagues from America, who are too proud, and fall on your own AR15s instead.
       
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  12. mstrman

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    @ darkride

    Since you think so little of my country:
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  13. shootersa

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    Tell you what then. The next time there's a disaster somewhere in the world, take a look at which countries are first to respond. When our military travels to other countries, look at how much good will aid they bring with them. When America funds more of NATO, which protects your cherry ass from being invaded, you can kneel and thank America, and fuck your self righteous condemnation of America.

    And if Trump does gain power you'll see your fellow liberals peeing all over themselves to block trump, cause trump, when the reality is, most of trumps policies are supported by the liberals, right up to the part where they realize Trump is the one touting them. That, arrogant ass, is how sick your liberal counterparts have become in this country. They are willing to sacrifice the very ideals America has stood for for 250 years, to stop Trump, cause Trump.

    One final note; China may indeed try to defeat America. But they won't be doing it with guns and military. Not as long as Americans still possess their guns. They can try, and perhaps they will, but they will fail. Then they can turn to your shithole country and take it without a shot being fired, because you and yours have never so much as held a gun, much less know how to use one.
    Or have the moral fortitude to use one even to defend your family or yourself. Much less your country.
    You have people for that, right?
    And when they surrender you'll just fall in line and march to the camps like good little sheep to the slaughter.
    Shooter's bet is you'd push your neighbors and even family into the showers ahead of yourself.
     
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  14. stumbler

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    Judge Cannon just showed her 'inexperience' or 'bias' in latest Trump hearing: expert

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    Judge Aileen Cannon, the jurist overseeing Donald Trump's criminal case over allegedly stashed confidential documents, showed that she's either in the bag for the former president or that she's too much of a novice on the bench to handle the momentous case, a former prosecutor said on Friday.

    Andrew Weissmann, the former top prosecutor on former special counsel Robert Mueller's team, gave his thoughts on Cannon's hearing from earlier Friday, where she fielded recommendations from both sides on potential trial dates in 2024.

    She didn't settle on a date, but she did bring up a DOJ rule that she appeared to misinterpret, according to Weissmann's comments.

    ALSO READ: ‘Leave the drama to them:’ Mother of Lauren Boebert’s grandson speaks out

    "Why was Judge Cannon today asking Jack Smith’s team about a DOJ 60-day policy given that it provides a defendant NO enforceable rights and is also plainly inapplicable," he said on Friday. "It shows her inexperience, or her bias, or both. IMHO."

    Weissmann was referring to Department of Justice guidance on conducting prosecutions of politicians near elections.

    He continued:

    "The 60-day rule is both not a law (just internal DOJ Guidance) and inapplicable. It’s meant to not make new allegations shortly before an election when a person can’t have a trial to confront them."

    Finally, Weissmann concluded by demonstrating how this case is in opposition to those in which the rule would be applicable.

    "This is the opposite: already public charges the US seeks to prove at a trial!" the ex-prosecutor wrote.



    https://www.rawstory.com/judge-cannon-bias-inexperience/
     
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  15. shootersa

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    How many more experts paid pundits will we have to put up with?
     
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    And this from a trumptrard. The hypocrisy is truly astounding, ain't it.
     
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    Jack Smith slaps down Trump body man's dismissal demand: 'He gets the law entirely wrong'

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    Special counsel Jack Smith has slapped down a dismissal motion from Donald Trump's body man Walt Nauta in the classified documents case in which both face criminal charges, court records show.

    Smith filed a response in Florida federal court contesting Nauta's demand that charges of concealing or withholding documents and taking part in a conspiracy to obstruct justice be dropped.

    “Nauta’s challenges to the charges get the law entirely wrong,” Smith writes. “Nauta’s motion should be denied in its entirety, and no hearing is required to address the issues he raises.”

    ALSO READ: ‘We're wounded:’ Speaker Mike Johnson struggles to lead GOP after ‘unnecessary purging’

    Smith’s slap-back was one among several dismissal motions to which he filed objections Thursday, one from co-defendant Carlos de Oliveira and several from Trump.

    The three men pleaded not guilty to charges linked to boxes of classified documents found stored at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida social club and residence.

    Last month, they also put their names to dismissal motions that accuse Smith’s legal team of making allegations that lacked specificity.

    Smith issues a swift and sharp response to this argument.

    "The Superseding Indictment contains a detailed, clear, and thorough recitation of the factual allegations, carefully tracks the applicable statutory language, and fully apprises Nauta of the crimes with which he is charged," Smith's response explains.

    "[It] is more than sufficient…and nothing more is required.”



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  18. stumbler

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    Exclusive: ‘Trump Employee 5,’ who unknowingly helped move classified documents, speaks out
    Katelyn Polantz, Kaitlan Collins and Jeremy Herb, CNN
    Mon, March 11, 2024 at 2:05 PM MDT·12 min read
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    Watch the full interview with Kaitlan Collins at 9 p.m. ET Monday on “The Source.”

    A longtime Mar-a-Lago employee who is a central witness in the investigation into former President Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents is now speaking publicly because he believes that voters should hear the truth about his former boss and the case before the November election.

    Brian Butler, who is referenced as “Trump Employee 5” in the classified documents indictment brought by special counsel Jack Smith, told CNN in an exclusive interview that he doesn’t believe the criminal case against Trump is a “witch hunt,” as the former president has claimed.

    Butler gave testimony to federal investigators that informed crucial portions of last year’s criminal obstruction charges against Trump and his two co-defendants, leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom" data-wf-reset-every="90">Walt Nauta, a personal aide to Trump, and Carlos De Oliveira, a property manager at Mar-a-Lago who had been Butler’s closest friend until recently.

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    Butler, who was employed at Mar-a-Lago for 20 years, has spoken repeatedly with investigators, paying for his own attorney and breaking with the orbit around Trump that he knows so well – setting him apart from his former colleagues and friends as his former boss has been named in multiple federal investigations.

    Butler told CNN how he unknowingly helped Nauta deliver boxes of classified information from Mar-a-Lago to the former president’s plane in June 2022 – the same day that Trump and his attorney were meeting with the Justice Department at Mar-a-Lago about the classified documents.

    That day, June 3, 2022, Butler received what he remembers as a strange request from Nauta, who wanted to know if he could borrow an Escalade from the car service Butler ran for Mar-a-Lago. Trump and his family were about to fly to New Jersey that day for the summer, and it was typically Butler and his valets who handled getting their luggage onto the plane.

    But it was an unusual request from Nauta for the car, Butler says, because Nauta typically didn’t handle moving luggage and asked Butler for the car in a guarded way.

    Butler says Nauta and De Oliveira loaded up the vehicle before driving it to the West Palm Beach airport. Butler arrived with his own car filled with Trump family luggage, then helped Nauta load Trump’s plane with the luggage – as well as bankers boxes of documents that were in the Escalade. Butler says he didn’t realize the bankers boxes contained anything out of the ordinary.

    “I left Mar-a-Lago. I texted him, ‘Hey, I’m on my way.’ He followed me. He pulled out and got behind me. We got to the airport. I ended up loading all the luggage I had – and he had a bunch of boxes,” Butler said of Nauta.

    “They were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. That’s what I remember loading,” Butler added.

    Three months after the FBI removed hundreds of government records from Mar-a-Lago in August 2022, Butler left his job as a club valet and manager, in part due to a growing restlessness to move on.

    Butler says he has considered for months going public about his role in the obstruction case against Trump as he has carefully followed developments in the criminal case. Butler says he decided to sit down with CNN exclusively in West Palm Beach on Monday out of a wish to tell the truth and share what he knows to those who may doubt the facts of the case.

    Butler, who has not previously been named publicly, is referenced six times in the Justice Department’s indictment as “Trump Employee 5.” The references made to Butler in the indictment capture only an inkling of what he knows and could be asked to speak about on the witness stand — all of which he says he’s already shared with prosecutors, giving them a window into scenes where other witnesses may have been close-lipped or allegedly misleading.

    A lawyer for Trump declined to comment to CNN, as did a lawyer for Nauta. An attorney for De Oliveira, John Irving, said in a statement, “We look forward to hearing more about Mr. Butler’s version of events when he is under oath and subject to penalty of perjury in the courtroom where that belongs, and we decline to try this case in the media.”

    The special counsel’s office spokesman also declined to comment.

    A secret trip to Florida
    Butler also was a witness in the room to several conversations that allegedly capture how Trump was positioning his closest aide Nauta, De Oliveira and others to thwart federal authorities.

    De Oliveira told Butler, for instance, about Nauta traveling to Palm Beach in late June 2022, at a time when Nauta and De Oliveira were allegedly interested in deleting surveillance tapes of a storage room where the boxes had been kept at the club, according to the indictment.

    Butler recalls that De Oliveira told him Nauta would be visiting. Then a day later, De Oliveira warned Butler that Nauta’s visit should be kept secret. De Oliveira told Butler that Nauta was interested in learning about how surveillance footage from the club would be saved – another oddity to Butler, he says.

    He says he now looks back at his last few months at Mar-a-Lago with a clarity only the indictment of Trump could bring. The behavior of Trump and Nauta toward him –especially on days where investigators were seeking details from Trump – now make sense, like puzzle pieces that have come together, Butler says.

    The longtime valet
    Butler, 41, is a natural narrator of the world of Trump in South Florida.

    He has known Trump since 2002 and can recount detailed conversations with him, his family and guests at Mar-a-Lago. Butler worked alongside his closest friends at the club, first and foremost De Oliveira. The two would sing karaoke together or celebrate each other’s birthdays off property.

    Because of his close-knit friendships, Butler has years of text messages and photos on his cell phone. His time as a chauffeur to countless visitors and Trump family members provided deep insight into the inner workings of Trump’s orbit.

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    The Florida native took the job working for Trump 21 years ago, as a seasonal valet at Mar-a-Lago making little over $30,000 a year. A man bubbling with ideas and energy, Butler pitched Trump personally a few years later about starting a car service for travelers visiting Trump properties in South Florida. It’s one of several businesses Butler has started to support his family.

    The Mar-a-Lago car service grew into a major part of his life for a decade, eventually earning him more than three times his initial salary, he says, and empowering him as an entrepreneurial spirit who grew close to many in the social network around Trump.

    But the MAGA approach to politics in recent years, the intensifying FBI investigation, and Trump’s apparently cavalier attitude toward national security soured Butler on staying at his Mar-a-Lago job after Trump’s presidency.

    Disillusioned with how the club had grown into a more transactional environment for Trump during his presidency, Butler quit Mar-a-Lago in November 2022. That year, he watched his friends and former co-workers’ lives become disrupted because of the developing criminal case.

    Butler says now he believes Trump hasn’t just divided the country. He has also divided people’s communities, including his own two-decade relationship with his best friend De Oliveira.

    “I felt like it was a total no-win situation for me. I mean, they’re asking me questions about one of my best friends. I’m being honest. But I also have a bad feeling that what I’m saying is getting him into trouble,” Butler told CNN. “Nobody should have to go through that. And for him (Trump) to get up there all the time and say the things he says about this being a witch hunt and everything. … He just can’t take responsibility for anything.”

    Nightly walks
    Given how many of his Mar-a-Lago coworkers had been caught up in the investigation, Butler knew it wouldn’t be long before prosecutors contacted him.

    Butler and De Oliveria live only a few hundred feet apart in their Palm Beach Gardens neighborhood. Multiple times a week, they would go on nightly walks, often discussing the buzz around the club.

    While out walking with De Oliveira one evening in early March 2023, months after the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago, Butler got an urgent call from his wife: He needed to come home immediately, because FBI agents had just shown up.

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    This photo from Brian Butler's 40th birthday party shows Butler, left, and Carlos De Oliveira, right. - Obtained by CNN
    Butler went to meet the agents, he says, while De Oliveria, who had already been approached by authorities separately and allegedly withheld information from them, hung back, watching.

    Despite their close-knit friendship, Butler and De Oliveria took two very different approaches to the FBI. De Oliveria has been charged with lying to federal investigators, who accuse him of repeatedly denying seeing or knowing anything about boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago, despite personally moving them. He has pleaded not guilty.

    At one point in their walks during the investigation, Butler says De Oliveira told him they were “all dirty” regarding moving boxes.

    While De Oliveira has used an attorney provided through Trump’s network, Butler has not.

    Butler had an existing relationship with Jeffrey Sloman, a former US attorney for the Southern District of Florida, due to an unrelated lawsuit. But Butler says he has resisted repeated inquiries from De Oliveira nudging him to use an attorney found and paid for by Trump.

    Transactional meeting
    Butler proved to be a valuable witness for Smith’s team. Given his long history at Trump’s club, Butler shed light on potentially critical instances related to the disclosure of classified information.

    At one point in his interviews, Butler says he told investigators that Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt repeated classified submarine secrets following a conversation with Trump in spring 2021.

    Pratt met with Trump and heard from the former president about US and Russian submarines at their meeting, then relayed that information to his chief of staff while in the backseat of Butler’s car. Butler later told investigators he was shocked that Trump would share such information with a foreign citizen who paid excessive sums for access to Mar-a-Lago.

    Butler says he believes the relationship was indicative of how a club member sought access to Trump once he became president.

    Pratt, who has previously declined to comment to CNN, has been interviewed by Smith’s team. A representative to Pratt did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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    In addition to the movement of the boxes, Butler also witnessed the scene where Trump allegedly attempted to keep De Oliveira in his fold.

    While Butler and De Oliveira had been nearly inseparable for a decade, their relationship changed around the time De Oliveira became a target of the criminal investigation last year.

    Over the years Butler captured his closeness with De Oliveira in his cell phone archive: Nearly a decade ago, there’s Butler’s young daughter hugging De Oliveira in a booth at a restaurant. There’s De Oliveira and Butler posing in their work uniforms, both much younger than they are now, walkie talkies clipped to their khakis. And he has a posed photo of all staff at Mar-a-Lago with then-President Trump and first lady Melania Trump lined up a few feet away from Butler and De Oliveira, side by side.

    There are videos of putts De Oliveira made on the golf course — one so sweet and triumphant De Oliveira showed it to Trump; of idle time at work where De Oliveira pretends he’s a club member ordering a cocktail or the supervisor sitting at Butler’s desk; of a Taylor Swift karaoke session in Butler’s living room after a round of golf, days before De Oliveira’s indictment.

    “The good days,” Butler calls the clips now.

    In one, from 2019, Trump walks by the pair, asking Butler if he’s doing well. “Good,” Butler replies. “Carlos is good,” Butler says to Trump, then pats his friend on the back.

    The few seconds capture the dynamic between the two men that persisted even into the early days of the documents investigation: Butler as protective of his buddy, and as the supervisor in Trump’s universe whom Trump’s aides often reached out to first.

    Butler told CNN on Monday that De Oliveira was known to have a good relationship with Trump.

    The conversation echoes one prosecutors picked up on years later which now forms the very last allegation in the indictment. In August 2022, while Butler and De Oliveira enjoyed a long weekend with family at a Florida casino for Butler to celebrate his 40th birthday, Nauta reached out to Butler “to make sure Carlos is good,” prosecutors allege.

    Butler assured Nauta twice that De Oliveira was loyal and wouldn’t do anything to hurt his relationship with Trump.

    Prosecutors say Trump then called De Oliveira to tell him he would get his property manager a lawyer.

    Butler and De Oliveira were at the casino’s food court when that call came in, Butler recalls. De Oliveira hung up the phone, happily, and told Butler that Trump would provide him an attorney, Butler says.

    “You know, he takes the call. We’re standing in the food court. I think we went to sit down,” Butler told CNN. “I can’t remember how long the conversation was. But I know at the end of the conversation when they hung up, Carlos said, ‘He’s gonna get me an attorney.’”

    Butler recounted the story to prosecutors and provided them access to his two cell phones.

    Since the Trump indictment, Butler has seen De Oliveira from afar in their neighborhood, and in news clips as his friend comes and goes from a federal courtroom.

    The two men no longer speak.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-trump-employee-5-unknowingly-200501307.html
     
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    The preceeding has been carefully reviewed and certified as accurate by your United States Intelligence community.:p
     
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    So shooter, in what kind of countries does an El Presidente try to stay in power illegally?

    Any thoughts? :O_o:
     
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