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  1. shootersa

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    Democratic Representative from Florida Fredrica Wilson has been a member of Congress since 2011. At that time her net worth was estimated at $950,000.
    As of 2016 her net worth is believed to be in excess of $2.1 Million.

    The revolution has questions for her.
     
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      Most people's net worth is in the form of equity in an owned home. House prices in South Florida have risen substantially over the past 6-7 years. In addition, the stock market has also risen substantially over the past 6-7 years. Any person with a modest home in good condition and a modest stock portfolio weighted towards tech stocks could easily see a doubling of net worth in the period of 2011- 2017.
       
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      Sure. It couldn't be because she is crooked as Hillary.
       
      msman, Oct 19, 2017
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  2. stumbler

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    I do not blame you guys and PR hacks for tryimg to change the subject. This is really bad and Trumps mental decline is undeniable.
     
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  3. JimmyCrackPorn

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    Short of Nuke Strike, Removal of Prez a Long Shot


    10/18/17

    Former Trump consiglieri Steve Bannon believes that the president has less than a one in three chance of making it through his full term, according to a report last week in Vanity Fair. The story is that Bannon told Trump that “the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment” — to which Trump allegedly replied, “What’s that?”

    They say there’s no such thing as a stupid question, so: the 25th Amendment, drafted in the wake of the Kennedy assassination and ratified in 1967, allows the vice president to take over when the president is deemed “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” Section 3 allows the president to make the call himself, and several presidents have used it to stand aside temporarily while undergoing surgical procedures. Section 4 provides for the president’s involuntary removal when vice president and a majority of Cabinet heads or “such other body as Congress may by law provide” declare him incapacitated.

    The 25th Amendment wasn’t designed for ejecting “merely” erratic or untrustworthy presidents. It aimed at situations of total, or near-total disability.

    In the five decades since the amendment’s ratification, section 4 has featured in multiple TV thriller plots, but never been used in real life. Lately, though, growing numbers of public intellectuals and elected officials have decided it’s the best way to repeal and replace the Trump presidency. Sorry: It’s not going to happen.

    Leave aside Steve Bannon, it’s mystifying that smart people — like The New York Times’ Ross Douthat, the University of Chicago’s Eric Posner, and former law professor U.S. Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) — have convinced themselves that the “25th Amendment Solution” is viable. In a Washington Post column this week, The American Prospect’s Paul Waldman argues that while Trump’s impeachment is “only a remote possibility,” his removal is “far more likely to happen via the 25th Amendment.”

    It’s hard to see how. For one thing, unless Vice President Mike Pence is much less servile and more Machiavellian than he seems, the “25th Amendment Solution” never gets off the ground. Perhaps Pence is trying to lull “45” into a false sense of security before pulling the section 4 trigger, but right now he sure doesn’t look like a guy plotting to overthrow his boss.

    Even if Pence proves a willing co-conspirator, for the switch to last, you’d need two-thirds of both houses of Congress to ratify it. If you have that, you already have more than enough votes for Trump’s impeachment and removal. The 25th Amendment’s framers deliberately set the bar higher for removal via section 4 because, as one of its principal architects, U.S. Sen. Birch Bayh (D.-Ind.) explained: “We were concerned about the politics of the palace coup.”

    If you don’t have a supermajority in both Houses, then within three weeks, Trump would return to the Oval Office hell-bent for vengeance. And, short of the president actually standing in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shooting someone, it’s hard to imagine nearly 100 GOP congressmen crossing the aisle to declare him mentally unfit for office.

    The 25th Amendment wasn’t designed for ejecting “merely” erratic or untrustworthy presidents. It aimed at situations of total, or near-total disability. Fordham University law professor John Feerick, who helped draft the amendment, summarizes the congressional debates on section 4: “It was made clear that unpopularity, incompetence, impeachable conduct, poor judgment, and laziness do not constitute an inability within the meaning of the Amendment.”

    The only real advantage the disability amendment has over the old-fashioned method is speed: the president can be displaced — temporarily, at least — as soon as the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet send notification to Congress. There’s one scenario where that speed would be absolutely necessary and the “25th Amendment Solution” might work: If the president were to order an unprovoked nuclear first strike, it’s possible that the secretary of defense could, instead of transmitting the launch order, get on the phone with the veep instead. They could then decide to trigger section 4, putting the president into a “time-out” until Congress votes. And Congress, presumably, would go into that vote knowing that, unless they ratify the switch, they’re voting for nuclear war.

    That scenario is, I hope, unlikely. But if it happens, you won’t hear me complain about the constitutional impropriety of invoking section 4. It’s crazy that it’s not entirely crazy to think about this kind of thing.

    Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and author of “The Cult of the Presidency.”
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    Is Donald Trump Crazy? No, but This 25th Amendment Talk Is.


    GENE HEALY
    07.17.17 1:00 AM ET

    An article of impeachment introduced last week charges President Donald Trump with obstructing the investigation of his campaign’s possible collusion with Putin’s Russia. Like most plans for dethroning Trump, it’s based on proving that the president is crooked.

    Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) has a different plan: he wants to remove Trump on the grounds that he’s crazy. Raskin, a former law professor and now a member of the House Judiciary Committee, favors invoking the 25th Amendment’s provisions for declaring the president “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” The bill Raskin’s pushing would create an “Oversight Commission on Presidential Capacity,” empowered to examine the president for signs of mental illness.

    Raskin’s bill now has 25 cosponsors, including more than half of his Democratic colleagues on Judiciary. But it’s hard to see this “25th Amendment Solution” as anything more than a publicity stunt.

    Here’s how it’s supposed to work: under powers granted by Section 4 of the amendment, Congress sets up a team of four psychiatrists, four physicians, two “retired statesperson” such as former presidents and VPs, and a team-elected chairperson. When Congress summons them into action, their mission, should they choose to accept it, is to examine the president and determine whether he “lacks sufficient understanding or capacity to execute the powers and duties of the office”—and report back within 72 hours.

    That’s the plan: An 11-man strike force of assorted shrinks and medics—plus, say, Bill Clinton and Dan Quayle—descends on Donald Trump, takes his vitals, and puts him on the couch to work out whether he’s too nutty to be president. All I can say is that if Trump agrees to this ridiculous arrangement, it better be on TV.

    Of course the examination will never happen, as Raskin’s bill all but concedes: “any refusal by the President to undergo such examination shall be taken into consideration” in the commission’s disability ruling. But how could such a refusal count as evidence of mental impairment? Agreeing to be poked and prodded under such circumstances would prove Trump has a screw loose. What’s more, the psychiatrists on the team are barred by professional ethics rules from diagnosing a patient they haven’t personally examined.


    But imagine that the commission declares the president incompetent anyway: the 25th Amendment also requires the vice president to ratify their assessment before he can take power. Mike Pence, who’s thus far stood by his man like a classic political “good wife,” seems unlikely to sign on. Even if he did, Trump just has to send a letter to Congress affirming his own competence, and he’ll be restored to power unless “by two-thirds vote of both Houses,” Congress sides with Pence and the commission—something else that’s never going to happen.

    Raskin has a point when he charges that Trump’s ongoing “bizarre litany of events and outbursts” has raised legitimate concerns about his temperament and stability. But the 25th Amendment wasn’t designed for ejecting “merely” erratic or untrustworthy presidents. Introduced in the wake of the Kennedy assassination, it aimed at situations of total disability, whether temporary or permanent. The worry with Trump isn’t that he’s “unable to discharge” the powers of his office—it’s that he’s reckless and immature enough to do enormous damage while he does so.

    We already have a standing body empowered to make an initial ruling on that sort of presidential fitness: the U.S. House of Representatives, to which the Constitution grants “the sole Power of Impeachment.” Contrary to conventional wisdom, that remedy isn’t limited to cases of corruption or abuse of official power. In its survey of the “Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment,” the Nixon-era House Judiciary Committee identified a third category of impeachable offense: “behaving in a manner grossly incompatible with the proper function and purpose of the office.”

    The House has the power to impeach, and the Senate to remove, a federal officer whose conduct “seriously undermine public confidence in his ability to perform his official functions.”

    Congress’s reluctance to engage in that debate is probably what’s driven Rep. Raskin’s to political gimmickry. So far, Republicans and most Democrats shrink from the notion of impeachment, treating the “I-word” as politically blasphemous. But as Trump’s “bizarre litany” continues, Congress may not be able to avoid the debate indefinitely.

    Impeachment’s purpose, constitutional scholar Greg Weiner explains, is “prophylactic,” not punitive: “to protect the public” from officials whose conduct presents an unacceptable risk. Whether Trump’s conduct presents such a risk isn’t a clinical question for specialists in lab coats—it’s a practical judgment that the Constitution leaves to the people’s representatives.
     
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    VoteSmart.org, a site that tracks voting records, shows that Wilson hasn’t supported several measures that would have helped veterans and their families – including financially.

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    Dem who slammed Trump voted against measures to help vets

    Specifically, she opposed a measure that would have given the families of four soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan in 2013 death and burial benefits.

    TRUMP SAYS DEM REP 'FABRICATED' ACCOUNT OF CALL TO SOLDIER'S WIDOW, HAS 'PROOF'

    She has also opposed measures to reform the embattled Department of Veterans Affairs.

    And Wilson has voted against measures multiple times that would ensure veterans and their families would still receive benefits despite government shutdowns
     
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    call to combat vet other - kelly.jpg
     
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  6. John227

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    I am bumping this in order to ask the important question:

    Who is Tom Steyer?

    Look him up! He is a billionaire who is frightened of our President. He is funding a movement to impeach Trump. See a site called [action dot needtoimpeach dot com]. He has been in the news for a few weeks already but I saw one of his TV ads for the first time this morning.

    We shall see what happens when richer White men take on a rich White man!
     
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  7. conroe4

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    nothing will happen
     
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    People tend to forget, you have to have a damn good reason to impeach a president.
    Just because you do not like him isn't usually a good enough reason.
     
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  9. shootersa

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    Well, but the arrogant elite liberals have a damn good reason to impeach President Trump.

    First, he has no filter between his brain and his mouth. The man spews froth at every opportunity.
    And, it's politically incorrect spew. Always.
    Also, the man colluded with the Russians to steal the Oval office. At least, that's the assumption. There are investigations happening even as this post is posted. No evidence yet mind you, but it must be true, else how did the pompous gas bag pull off a bigger upset than the Patriots pulled on the Falcons?
    And Trump is mentally ill. Just look at how he takes his steak, and the sonofabitch LOVES Ice Cream! And he's always bloviating on that fat little fuck in North Korea, and insulting world leaders, and patting their wives on the ass, and just acting .......... you know.......... unpresidential!
    Consider also that the fucker lies! He says he won't play golf, then he does, and he's making a ton of money from the oval office, and he's still yammering about some wall between the US and Mexico, and blowing up our health insurance, and giving his cronies tax breaks and making us minions pay for it, and .............. OH HELL!! The fucker lies!

    But the real reason, the damn good reason, for impeaching the pompous gas bag, is that he stole the throne from Hillary. It was hers by birthright and long planning; Trump, and for that matter, anyone else, had no business daring to steal it away from Hillary. From even challenging her for it. It was hers, GODDAMN IT!! Trump stole it!! He needs to be kicked out on his ass, he and his whore wife and brats, with force and violence if necessary!
     
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  10. msman

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    But the real reason, the damn good reason, for impeaching the pompous gas bag, is that he stole the throne from Hillary. It was hers by birthright and long planning; Trump, and for that matter, anyone else, had no business daring to steal it away from Hillary. From even challenging her for it. It was hers, GODDAMN IT!! Trump stole it!! He needs to be kicked out on his ass, he and his whore wife and brats, with force and violence if necessary.

    This is the real reason. The democrats just forgot to tell the people their fool proof plan.
    Nothing unusual about that. They never let the people in any of their plans. It is their opinion that the people do not know what is best for them
    They need Hillary and the democrats to make the big decisions for them.

    This time the people fooled them. Right up until election day. The democrats and the news media had already called the election for Hillary.
    They just made one little mistake. The people were not listening to them.
     
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  11. stumbler

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    Once again there are more reports GOP are just hoping to get tax cuts for the rich before they make move on 25 th. But after last weeks hope is fading fast.
     
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      left wing hogwash....
       
      RandyKnight, Oct 24, 2017
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  12. John227

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    Senator Jeff Flake, Senator Bob Corker, Senator John McCain, former President George W. Bush have stated their deep problems with Trump and their desire for him to either change or leave the presidency. The thing those men all have in common is that they are REPUBLICANS!

    It is moderate Republicans, as well as Democrats, who see the need to impeach Trump. RINO indeed!!!! Republican political strategist Anna Navaro has said it very well. "The Republican party has left me!!" The Republican party has left most traditional Republicans because it has been hi-jacked by Trump and his Trumpettes.

     
    1. msman
      Lets see what reason they might have for wanting to get rid of Trump.
      Didn't the Bush's have a family member that Trump made look like a fool when he ran for president?
      Wasn't McCain made to look like a fool during the election by Trump?
      Hasn't Trump said he wants someone else in the jobs being held by Flake and Corker?
      We do not even claim them as republicans. The democrats can have them as they have acted more like democrats anyway.
       
      msman, Oct 25, 2017
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  13. RandyKnight

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    EPIC FAIL...
    Petitioning The Vice President of the United States and 2 others 25th Amendment: Remove Donald Trump CLOSED

    Petition Closed
    4,247 supporters
    753 needed to reach 5,000

    HMM... another petition bites the dust.

    TRUMP is president its done accept it.
    https://www.change.org/p/25th-amendment-remove-donald-trump
     
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  14. stumbler

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    notice how stories keep leaking out about trumps mental illness from republicans ? are they trying to prepare you for something?
     
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      no I have not noticed....
       
      RandyKnight, Oct 28, 2017
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    It will never happen. Might be wishful thinking on Stumbles part, but the reason it will never happen is because it is not true. Ask anyone that really knows Donald Trump, if he is mentally unstable. It just isn't true. You can forget the 25th.
     
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    Or you can continue to think something like that might happen and remove all doubt about who is the one with a mental problem.
     
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