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  1. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/trump-unsteady-with-base-as-mueller-storm-sets-in.html

    Trump unsteady with base as Mueller storm sets in
    Chris Stirewalt By Chris Stirewalt | Fox News


    On the roster: Trump unsteady with base as Mueller storm sets in - Key takeaways from new Russia charges - Let’s make a deal: House GOP up for anything on taxes - Gillespie a no show at Trump group’s rally - The dangers of going for the last Rollo

    TRUMP UNSTEADY WITH BASE AS MUELLER STORM SETS IN
    The defining chapter of President Trump’s term began today. Is he ready?

    We do not mean his legal strategies or even his communications effort in confronting the specific charges against Trump’s former campaign staffers from Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    Instead, the real concern for Trump is whether he has enough political support to weather what promises to be a punishing ordeal for him and his administration.

    The hope among Republicans had been that they would be farther along in their agenda before this inevitable moment arrived. Trump and his party imagined that policy victories would provide a shock-absorbing cushion of popularity support for the president before Mueller inserted the scalpel.

    That’s understandable thinking, especially for people who are deeply committed to their agenda. When all you have are tax cuts and ObamaCare repeal, everything looks like a nail.


    But the agenda is gaining traction, so why do a spate of recent polls show Trump at his lowest-ever ratings as president?

    Consider the most recent Fox News poll which finds Trump down 12 points in a month among one of his core constituencies: white, male voters without college degrees.

    The president is doing about as well or better than he ever has among self-identified Republicans, carding 83 percent support among GOPers, not far from where he was a year ago when he won the presidency.

    And there’s much for them to be happy about.

    Talk of tax cuts is everywhere, the administration is jackhammering ObamaCare into oblivion, Trump is a more ferocious culture warrior than ever and, with new internal controls, the White House has taken a turn for the normal.

    But it wasn’t Republicans who made the difference for Trump. In fact, he did worse with members of his own party than other recent nominees.

    Those aforementioned working-class white voters, especially independents, were the ones who took Trump over the top in the Upper Midwest. Among independent voters, Trump is 16 points off of his Election Day 2016 pace.

    We would suggest that Trump’s recent swoon is exactly for the same reasons that had Republicans feeling quite chipper prior to today. Why would economically insecure voters be happy to hear about Trump cutting off payments to middle-class ObamaCare beneficiaries while simultaneously evangelizing for a huge corporate tax cut?

    The poll bears it out. Working-class white voters and independents both gave Trump low marks for his handling of taxes (42 percent and 34 percent, respectively) and health care (35 percent and 29 percent).

    Trump and his fellow Republicans have been in a mud-wrestling match since even before he took office, but despite some harsh words in recent weeks, Trump and the Republican establishment have settled into something like a working relationship on taxes and ObamaCare.

    While Trump certainly has to rely on Republicans in Congress and in his cabinet to protect him as Mueller continues his incisions, the grudging support of the leaders of an unpopular political party is not enough. That’s especially true if the price of their assent means that Trump will continue to bleed support among those blue-collar workers who delivered his upset victory.

    Many Republicans will stand by Trump through this battle as long as they believe it will advance their partisans interests and no further. What Trump really needs is to still be seen as the champion of those forgotten voters with whom he connected last year.

    Slashing business taxes and cutting welfare benefits seems like an unlikely way to win back voters drawn to Trump’s promise of economic nationalism and nation building here at home.

    Key takeaways from new Russia charges - Lawfare: “The first big takeaway from this morning’s flurry of charging and plea documents with respect to Paul Manafort Jr., Richard Gates III, and George Papadopoulos is this: The President of the United States had as his campaign chairman a man who had allegedly served for years as an unregistered foreign agent for a puppet government of Vladimir Putin, a man who was allegedly laundering remarkable sums of money even while running the now-president’s campaign, a man who allegedly lied about all of this to the FBI and the Justice Department. The second big takeaway is even starker: A member of President Trump’s campaign team now admits that he was working with people he knew to be tied to the Russian government to ‘arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government officials’ and to obtain ‘dirt’ on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of hacked emails—and that he lied about these activities to the FBI. He briefed President Trump on at least some them.”

    Papadopoulos fell for claim that Russian was Putin’s niece - Daily Beast: “Days after becoming a foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign in 2016, George Papadopoulos started meeting with a woman he believed to be Vladimir ‘Putin’s niece,’ according to a newly unsealed indictment by special counsel Robert Mueller. … Maybe, the woman said, she could even get the two men to meet face-to- face. … Bu t the woman was not, in fact, Putin’s relative. Papadopoulos had, in a sense, been catfished—and then lied about catfishing to federal investigators.”

    Targeting Manafort sign of ‘divide and conquer’ strategy - Vox: “[Sean Illing] recently reached out to Renato Mariotti, who served as a federal prosecutor from 2007 to 2016 and who is now a candidate for Illinois Attorney General, and asked him what we can infer from Mueller’s aggressive approach to this case. He told me that Mueller is employing what he calls a ‘divide and conquer’ strategy, meaning he’s looking to exploit conflicts between people under investigation in order to turn them against one another. That Mueller’s team is homing in on Manafort, he adds, suggest two things: that they have the strongest case against him and that they believe he has incriminating information about other people under investigation.”

    What did Manafort spend all that money on? - Weekly Standard: “The indictment of Paul Manafort and Richard Gates is filled with interesting tidbits about their businesses and lifestyles. … What did Manafort spend his money on? ‘Vendor B’ is a ‘Home Automation, Lighting and Home Entertainment Company in Florida.’ Manafort wired them $1,319,218 over the course of two years. ‘Vendor C’ is an ‘Antique Rug Store in Alexandria, Virginia.’ Manafort wired them eight payments totally $934,350 over the course of two years. (And then wired another $100,000 to a ‘Vendor D’ who was ‘related to Vendor C.’”

    Trump camp fundraises off of indictment - USA Today: “Less than two hours after President Trump’s former campaign manager was indicted Monday, the Trump re-election campaign decided to send out a fundraising email. The email, entitled ‘Still Standing’ and from presidential son Eric Trump, describes the ‘opposition’ to the administration. ‘The mainstream media continues to play politics, creating division and turning the American people against one another,’ the email reads. ‘But as a loyal supporter of our movement, I know you know the truth.’ The email asks for supporters to contribute $1 before the end of the month.”
     
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  2. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    you guys wish the Trump army was falling apart....
     
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    1. imported__2355
      This story came from Fox News.
       
      imported__2355, Oct 31, 2017
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  3. conroe4

    conroe4 Lake Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    Tossing out anything and everything. It's getting old.
    It's not working either.
     
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    1. RandyKnight
      maybe working in reverse.....
       
      RandyKnight, Oct 31, 2017
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      Yes, it is working in reverse. You would think they would learn!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
      But they don't.
       
      conroe4, Oct 31, 2017
    3. JimmyCrackPorn
      Come on, you guys. Admit it. Since the announcement of the indictments, not one of us Trump supporters has had a good night's sleep. We're all popping blood pressure medication and pacing about while muttering "Oh me, oh my" and other such nonsense as we bump into the furniture...in liberals' dreams.
       
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  4. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    You wish Trump was as popular as Reagan. He is not, but he acts as though he is.
     
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      when did I ever say that-----stop putting words in my mouth...
       
      RandyKnight, Oct 31, 2017
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  5. MarsLovesVenus

    MarsLovesVenus Sex Machine Banned!

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    All this time spent and the only thing Mueller did was catch Manafort doing shady international deals WAY BEFORE he was Trump's campaign manager. Moreover, the longest time Manafort spent with the campaign was 2-3 months. WOW!!!

    Besides, how is it the the FBI didn't know Manafort was doing shady deals with Russia (and Ukraine) and didn't do anything about it? And if they did why didn't they warn Corey Lewindowski or Trump himself when Manafort was asked to be the new campaign manager?

    Funny how that 30+ page "indictment" had no mentioning of the name Donald J. Trump, though. Care to explain that one, you stupid motherfucking bitch leftists? LMAO!!!

    By the way, they both pleaded 'not guilty.' If they are actually found not guilty, then I will die laughing so hard at the even more massive display of epic fail that is the democrat party and their establishment shill owners like Mueller.

    Nice try posting a Fox News article. But Chris Stirewalt is a hack
     
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    1. imported__2355
      Please. Civility. And if they plead guilty and start co-operating with Mueller as Popadopolis has done?
       
      imported__2355, Oct 31, 2017
    2. MarsLovesVenus
      Awww, did I hurt your lil feelings? ;(
      You can dish it out but can't take it, eh? lmao!!!
      How are they gonna plead guilty if they already pleaded not guilty? That doesn't make sense. Manafort woulda already worked with Mueller months ago when his place got raided (without a warrant, mind you). Popadopolis pleaded guilty to giving a wrong date. Hilarious how Trump still wasn't mentioned in any of those events ;D
      The cycle of liberal lunacy never ceases to surprise me.
       
      MarsLovesVenus, Oct 31, 2017
    3. imported__2355
      I've been told that I'm about as sensitive as a toilet seat. And about as clean minded. And Mueller had a warrant but might have exceeded its constraints. There could be a 4th Amendment issue that could screw up some of his evidence. To what degree isnt clear yet.
       
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    Oh no!! The whiny coastal state liberals don't like trump ;[
    LOL!!!
     
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    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    yepper this is one of the guys that keeps FOX a balanced News Outlet.....

    Chris Stirewalt’s Married/Gay
    Chris, like most media personalities, keeps his personal life quite personal, but often some news slips through the cracks. There was a rumor that went around concerning his love life, apparently, he was dating Dana Perino, but that ended up just being a rumor since they are just co-hosts. How do we know this? Well, Dana is already married to Peter McMahon and she has been since 1998.

    He is another one at FOX---

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    Juan Williams currently serves as a co-host of FOX News Channel’s (FNC) The Five (weekdays 5-6PM/ET) and also appears as a political analyst on FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace and Special Report with Bret Baier. Williams joined the network as a contributor in 1997.

    On The Five, Williamsis part of a roundtable ensemble of FNC personalities who discuss, debate and even debunk the hot news stories, controversies and issues of the day.

    In addition to his more than 10-year career with NPR, where he served as a senior national correspondent and news analyst, Williams spent 23 years at The Washington Post. During his tenure there, Williams covered every major political campaign from 1980 to 2000 as a national correspondent and a political columnist.
     
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      no not worried at all------I survived Obama----I can survive all your crap....

      all you are posting is OP-ED-----you have yet to post any proof.....

      when it is Op-Ed----have to look at who is making the opinion....
       
      RandyKnight, Oct 31, 2017
    3. imported__2355
      Read it again and check the (Fox News) polling. -16% with Indies and a failing approval rating among white males with a high school education might be the kiss of death. He has no chance in 2020 at that rate and his coattails don't amount to a vest
       
      imported__2355, Oct 31, 2017
    4. MarsLovesVenus
      What polling? The one with a sample size of 1000 voters? lmao!!!
       
      MarsLovesVenus, Oct 31, 2017
    5. imported__2355
      Laugh at Fox not me. Its their poll.
       
      imported__2355, Oct 31, 2017
    6. MarsLovesVenus
      I'm laughing at both of you! ;D
       
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  8. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    And another one.....

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    Smith’s show is, in a sense, both the least important and the most important program on Fox News. The show is important to Fox insofar as it gives the network plausible deniability. When critics accuse the network of being a one-note propaganda organ, it can point to Shepard Smith Reporting as proof that it sometimes varies its tune. But the thing that makes the program unique is also what makes it so deeply pointless. It often feels like Smith spends half of his time refuting the rumors peddled by some of his colleagues. The fact that his colleagues do not seem compelled to change their ways, or to live up to Smith’s good example, illustrates the show’s fundamental impotence.

    The Smith paradox—the anchor’s insistence on doing good journalism for a network that mostly exists to disseminate bad journalism—was on full display Monday, as news of the charges brought by special prosecutor Robert Mueller led much of Fox to start spinning in the same predictable, obfuscatory direction. By contrast, Smith’s reporting on the charges and indictments issued against Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, and George Papadopoulos was clear, factual, and refreshingly free of partisan cant. The anchor did not whine about Uranium One and the Steele dossier, nor did he speculate on the possible consequences for whoever leaked news of the impending charges to CNN last Friday. Smith knows as well as anyone that, on a day in which the president’s former campaign chairman was indicted for conspiracy against the United States, those other stories do not matter.


    Fox News Did a Great Job Covering the Mueller Indictments.
    Then Shepard Smith Signed Off.
     
    1. MarsLovesVenus
      Shepard Smith sounded like he was a CNN anchor during the campaign and in the early months of Trumps presidency. Hell he still sounds like it. I'm sure his little segment about those "indictments" (aka: political witch hunts) bashed Trump in the process even though Trump's name wasn't mentioned in the actual indictment papers.
       
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  9. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    If Mueller has to pop these guys hoping to squeeze them to tell him something then he aint got nothing....

    If Popodapoulas had been wearing a wire Mueller would have all that info for an indictment but still nothing....
     
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  10. pussy in boots

    pussy in boots ride em cowgirl up

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    Every thing coming up was in 2009. Long before Trump even decided to run.
    Want something on Russian collusion investigate Obama and Shillery.
     
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  11. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    and DNC and Podesta....
     
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  12. anon_de_plume

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    And that is all that it is... Talk.
    Except they have really done nothing but talk...
    Which really means he is just attacking more people on Twitter.
    What controls? And just what does Fox mean by "normal"?

    This was a hoot!
     
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  13. stumbler

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    It is just so laughable when people try to claim the charges against Manafort dont have anything to do with Trump and his campaign because most the crimes were before the campaing for two reasons.

    One being it ignores Papadopoulos who was working for the Trump campaign, met with Russians about the campaign and has already pleaded guilty to lying about it. And has actively working with Mueller for months. And may have even been wearing a wire for Mueller and making monitored calls to people in Trumps inner circle.

    But also because what Manafort has been slapped with so far is just the tip of the iceberg including charges yet to come out of New York where Trump can't pardon him.

    All based on the fact that even if you are loyal to Trump facing decades in prison can sure cut a lot of ties.
     
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      No, for once Stumbles is right. the Manafort indictments are just the tip of the iceburg; by the time Mueller is done, it's reasonable to expect that the Democratic elite will be in the dock with Manafort and Gates.
       
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      Just how did the democrats work with Trump?
       
      anon_de_plume, Nov 2, 2017
    4. shootersa
      Cmon now, you know what Shooter meant.
      Everything the unsupporters have alleged Trump and his gang did relative to the Russians, the Democrats and their gang have, it seems, done.
      Plus some other unsavory things.
      So yeah, lets get all those robbers in the dock.
       
      shootersa, Nov 3, 2017
    5. anon_de_plume
      Yeah, 'it seems' is the operative phrase...
       
      anon_de_plume, Nov 3, 2017
    6. shootersa
      *Guffaws
       
      shootersa, Nov 4, 2017
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  14. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    Actually, these were what I considered the pertinent quotes in the article:

    All of the Fox fawning aside, a small dribble of truth slips through.
     
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    The was one other thing he did. Publicly acknowledge that the government was monitoring members of the Trump campaign. Basically proving Trump right that Obama had wire tapped his campaign.
     
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  16. Distant Lover

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    abc News November 2, 2017

    About half the respondents in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll suspect that President Donald Trump broke the law during the presidential campaign, and just 3 in 10 Americans surveyed think that alleged wrongdoing ends with those who were charged this week by the special counsel.

    The poll finds substantial support for the investigation, with 58 percent approving of how special counsel Robert Mueller is handling it, and more — 68 percent — approving of the filing of federal charges against Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and one of his associates.

    ------

    But Hillary! But Hillary!
     
    1. RandyKnight
      so we are gonna convict people with phony polls....

      You take the cake-------
       
      RandyKnight, Nov 2, 2017
    2. anon_de_plume
      Hey dumbfuck! Where does it say anything about convicting anyone?
       
      anon_de_plume, Nov 2, 2017
    3. shootersa
      Shooter jumps up and down, waving his hand (paw) in the air.
      ME! ME! ME! ME!
      Shooter supports the Mueller investigation!
      Go get em Bobby!
      Root out those miscreants!
      Charge em with whatever you can make stick!
      Run those rascals right the fuck out of Washington!
       
      shootersa, Nov 3, 2017
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  17. anon_de_plume

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    Really? Where did they prove that?
     
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    It does not matter if Trump can hang onto 30 percent of the country. Trump World is collapsing.
     
    1. shootersa
      Tilt on General.
      Wishing don't make it so.
      But you know that.
      Safe space on the left.
      And please note, horsies, even support horsies, are not allowed.
       
      shootersa, Nov 3, 2017
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    How did Obama leave the DNC 24 million in debt when Hillary took it over....

    sure looks like Donna Brazile has a tell all new book out----

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...dnc-rigged-it-for-hillary-big-league-n2403847
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    Explosive Brazile Confession: Trump and Bernie Were Right,
    DNC Rigged Nomination For Hillary From the Start
     
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    Trump approval rating 38.8 percent

    Dissapproval 56.6 percent

    -17.8

    Rasmussen approval 43 percent

    Dissapproval 56 percent

    -13

    Fox News approval 38 percent

    Dissapproval 58 percent
     
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