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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    .....and we know the general cares more for the welfare of ILLEGAL imigrants than he does Americans.
     
  2. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    And as we know shooter values the lives of some children higher than others.
     
  3. Rixer

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    Okay, to be honest I haven't propped up my eyelids studying this shit to death so I can get a political jab in one way or another. But.....................
    Unless I'm mistaken, those people knew ahead of time what was going to happen and they forced the issue knowing full well they would be separated. It's hard to be outraged when they caused it themselves.
    Just sayin....:cigar:
     
  4. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Nope this a lie. I care about all innocent children because I am not a racist bigot like you. And I especially care about innocent children in government care because we are all responsible for what OUR GOVERNMENT does whether we like or not.

    And this child did not have to die.

    Once again the lie of conservatism. Swear they care about the unborn child. But once that child is born they couldn't give a shit less about them.
     
  5. stumbler

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    No, you are mistaken. The majority had no way of knowing the policy had changed because they were already in route, many are illiterate come from rural areas, and quite a few of don't even speak Spanish.
     
  6. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    This child did not have to die??
    Where's your outrage, your spew over this child??

    BIG ISLAND (HawaiiNewsNow) -

    It's been nearly a year since 3-year-old Fabian Garcia died in the care of a Big Island foster home.

    Records: ER staff suspected abuse in death of 3-year-old foster child
    A Hawaii County medical examiner ruled the cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head. But exactly how that trauma happened remains a mystery.

    "It's just miserable — what happened," said Garcia's mother, Sherri Garett.

    On Tuesday, Garett was finally able to speak publicly about her son's death. A gag order initiated by state Department of Human Services has prevented the toddler's parents from talking.

    But recently, the state Supreme Court ruled that order was unconstitutional.

    Garett remembers little Fabian as always wearing a smile. He was caring and a quick learner, she said.

    "Life seemed to excite him. It was awesome," She said. "In turn, he made us the happiest we had every been."

    But that changed in 2016.

    The family's attorney says the state placed Fabian and his two siblings into foster care based on a parent's positive drug test and the fact that the family was renting a home that was in foreclosure.

    It wasn't long before Garett says she saw signs of mistreatment.

    "Black eyes, lumps on their forehead, missing fingernails, bite marks, bruises, deep scratches on my son's genitals," Garett said.

    During their last visit, she recalls Fabian screaming and trying to hide when it was time to say goodbye.

    After his death emergency room staff diagrammed his injuries because they too suspected abuse.

    July 26 will mark one year since Fabian's death, but the toddler's autopsy report has yet to be released.

    Garett says not having those answers has made it impossible to move forward and she worries the lack of forensic insight could compromise the investigation into her son's death.

    "I would have died for him. There's no way that he would've died before me if he was still with me," Garett said.

    She says she's determined to get to the bottom of her son's death and keep his memory alive.

    "He was here. He was awesome and he deserves justice," she said.

    About a month after Fabian's death, the state Department of Human Services returned the boy's two siblings to Garett.

    HNN reached out to the agency and asked about its investigation into the boy's death. A spokesperson said they are unable to share any information.​

    Or this child??

    The parents of little Alex lost custody of their daughter when law enforcement learned they had smoked marijuana while the child was asleep in her room. There does not seem to be any other rationale proffered for the removal of Alex from her parents' care -- one use of marijuana, in the home, while the child was asleep.

    The parents were cited for neglect and Alex entered the foster care system. During an early visit, Alex's father noticed the child had unexplained bruising on her body, and also that her bag had mold and a strong mildew odor. He demanded that Alex be moved to a safer home, and Alex was, in fact, moved into the home of another foster parent, a woman named Sherill Small.

    Seven months later, Alex was brought to the hospital where she remained, comatose, for two days before she died.

    Small has been arrested and charged with capital murder. And a caring father will never have the chance to regain custody of his child.

    What makes this case even more galling is that the CPS agency in question had a problematic record when it came to ensuring safe environments for foster children:

    Officials with the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services tell KVUE they rely on private child placing agencies to perform background checks on all foster homes. The agency in this case is called Texas Mentor and state records show 15 total deficiencies for the Austin branch of that agency over the past two years. Four of those deficiencies were for failing to perform proper background checks on people who live in foster homes.
    We can leave the debate about whether parental marijuana use constitutes de facto neglect or abuse for another time. It's undisputed Alex's parents broke the law in Texas when they smoked pot.

    But from the sole perspective of the child's welfare, it's hard to give any credence to the notion that Alex was in more danger in her parents' home than she was in foster care -- especially given the tragic outcome.​

    Or even this child??

    A little more than two months after three children were removed from the Caneyville home of Ryan and April Payton in March 2017, the youngest of the children — age 4 — died from a head injury while in foster care at a Radcliff home.

    On Thursday night, the man police believe is responsible for the May 10 death of Hunter Payton was arrested and charged with murder.

    Billy Paul Embry, 33, was arrested around 9:30 p.m. Thursday by Radcliff police. According to an arrest warrant, a final report from the state Medical Examiner’s Office in Louisville determined the boy died from an inflicted head injury.

    Elizabethtown attorney Ron Hines, who is representing the Paytons, said Friday the children never should have been removed from the home in the first place. The three children, Hines said, had been in foster care since March 6 at the home of Embry and his husband.

    Hines said someone reported to Child Protective Services there was drug use in the Payton home. He said the couple was given less than 24 hours to take a drug test or the children would be removed. He said they didn’t have the money to pay for a test and the next day, CPS removed the two boys and a girl. Hunter was the youngest of the children.

    A person with the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services’ Protection and Permanency office in Elizabethtown said Friday afternoon no one from the office could comment. A number provided to seek comment went unanswered twice Friday afternoon.

    “They didn’t have the $20,” Hines said. “Some people are stretched each month for that $20.”

    Hines said he became involved in the case shortly after Hunter’s death when a friend of the couple recommended they call him.

    The other children were removed from Embry’s home, Hines said, soon after Hunter initially was injured and they remain in foster care.

    Embry told authorities in May that Hunter had suffered a head injury from a fall, the warrant stated.

    Radcliff Police Department was contacted May 8 by Norton Children’s Hospital in Louisville in reference to a possible child abuse incident after the child was transported there from Hardin Memorial Hospital. When Hunter arrived at the hospital, he was unconscious and not breathing, according to the warrant.

    He was pronounced dead at 8:15 a.m. May 10.

    An autopsy was performed May 11 and a final findings report from examinations was completed Dec. 27. A warrant for Embry’s arrest was issued Thursday night.

    Hunter initially was injured, according to the warrant, at a residence on Black Ravens Court. Embry was the only adult in the home when the child sustained the injury.

    “We’ve been trying to get these children out of foster care and back to their loving parents,” Hines said.

    He said the family is pleased someone is being “brought to justice.”

    “It’s somewhat anti-climactic,” Hines said. “Their son is still dead. ... They are somewhat relieved, not that there is closure. At least someone is being held accountable.”

    Embry is being held in lieu of a $250,000 cash bond in the Hardin County Detention Center. He is scheduled to appear at 9 a.m. Friday in Hardin District Court.

    Radcliff Police Chief Jeff Cross said the investigation into the child’s death is ongoing.

    “We had to wait to get everything we needed with results,” he said. “That’s why there was a delay in the charges.”

    He said Embry is “where we believe the responsibility lies.”​

    You are a lying hypocrite.
    You spew at the death of a child who was brought here ILLEGALLY, but are strangely silent when faced with the death of American kids in the care of our state foster care system.

    Shooter believes it is because you can't blame Trump for the deaths of those American kids. All you care about is your endless Trump attacks and spew for "conservatism", whatever that means to you on any particular day.

    You spew your "I am a patriot" shit but refer to the remains of our fallen heroes in North Korea as "dirty old bones".

    You moan and froth when an ILLEGAL immigrant is mistreated in Federal custody. When confronted with the death of an American at the hands of an ILLEGAL immigrant loose on the streets because they hide in a sanctuary city, you go mute.

    Go ahead, keep spewing about Trump and your outrage at the man. Nothing will change until you find someone ............ anyone ........... who can replace him.

    Then we'll see your outrage every time someone in the country ILLEGALLY dies.

    But as for the foster kids, and families permanently separated because of ILLEGAL immigrants, and cowardly government action, you will remain silent.
    TWAT
     
  7. shootersa

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    You know shit about Shooter's values.
     
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      I suppose I'll have to go back and find shooter's response, if he doesn't recall saying that very thing himself.
       
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    You just lie again shootersa I have already covered my experiences with foster care.

    And you are just such a bigoted raving hypocrite to play the drama queen about kids in foster care when that is where many of these kids are headed thanks tovTrump.
     
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    Keep tilting general. You lied about your foster experience in shooters opinion and you lie when you say you care about any kid.

    All you care about is flaming trump.
     
  10. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    So the assertion was that I know shit about shooter's values. Could very well be true I know shit about shooter's values, but I do know there's nothing compromised about my reading comprehension.

    I'm on my phone, so slightly hobbled. If this doesn't make my point, abundantly clear, I'll spend some more time on this when I can lay my hands on my laptop. The search function doesn't work for shit, really, but you know, I like to make a point easy to digest.


    We start off with the defining element; that American citizen children are worthy of concern, and children of illegal immigrants are not.

    And then we have the assertion in plain language, that child separation makes shooter uncomfortable, but, you know, American kids first.

    (emphasis added)

    And then here again we have language that shows shooter's concern hierarchy:

    This one was special, in that shooter revealed for us the idea that his empathy for children has limits, and apparently that ends at the boundary of American citizen foster children:

    This one's a real treat, though. Shooter just knows that immigrant kids being housed in facilities are decidedly not being sexually abused or murdered, and of course knows those kids are getting excellent medical care.

    (emphasis added)

    So, you know, if I'm operating under the understand that shooter values the lives of American citizen children higher than any others, I've come by it honestly.
     
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      Tread lightly, shooter.

      I didn’t spend several years in the public service protecting the rights, interests and obligations of every one of Ontario’s children to have someone like you cast aspersions on my character, or intimate I show a lack of care or concern for any child on this planet.

      Tread very fucking lightly.

      The truth is, you value some children higher than others, and that is a fact.
       
  11. CS natureboy

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    @submissivelyspeaking , The US has an estimated 25 million illegal immigrants. I am sure some of these people would be willing to migrate to the UK.

    This is a serious question. How many of these people do you think your government is willing to let immigrate to the UK?
     
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      The land of hypocrites and liars you say?


      Canada Cracks Down, Will Grant Refugee Status To Fewer Border Crossers
      Justin Trudeau's arms aren't as open as they once were.
      ByEmily Zanotti
      May 22, 2018
      Canada is vigorously enforcing its own immigration rules now that more illegal immigrants are crossing its borders, Reuters reports, granting refugee status to fewer and fewer asylum seekers.

      The decision to crack down on illegal border jumpers apparently originates right with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who famously chided American President Donald Trump for closing off the United States' borders to illegal immigrants, and, in a tweet, offered to welcome America's rejected asylum seekers with "open arms."
       
      CS natureboy, Aug 28, 2018
    3. submissively speaking
      sigh

      Like I didn't see this coming a mile away.

      Here's our data.

      Do the math per capita, and get back to me.
       
    4. CS natureboy
      Don't give me this per capita crap, your country isn't taking in squat compared to the US. I think Canada should take in 15-20 million immigrants.

      You have plenty of room up there. Don't you agree?
       
      CS natureboy, Aug 28, 2018
    5. submissively speaking
      Per capita is the best indicator, Einstein, of what countries are doing to accommodate asylum/refugee claims. How much of their budget they are attributing to the claim process, etc.

      But from personal experience, I can tell you that the gov't doesn't fund most of our refugee claimants. We do. Citizens. Religious and community groups fundraise, plan, secure housing and other essentials for claimants, and commit to supporting them in the communities, teaching them language, how to operate in a Canadian city, etc. I have personally assisted a family from Sudan and a family from Syria.

      It's no secret we've got tons of room; our country is bigger than yours is.

      What have you done for asylum-seekers and refugees?
       
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      @submissivelyspeaking
      The US takes more asylum seekers in one month than Canada does in a entire year. Canada does not have the illegal immigration problem that the US does, you have 50,000 max, we have 25 million, yet you seem to be very content to criticize us for trying to control our borders.
       
      tenguy, Aug 29, 2018
  12. stumbler

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    Someone who has been caught lying multiple times including a couple times on this page alone is in no position to accuse anyone else of lying.

    Oh bullshit. Nearly every estimate of the number of undocumented immigrants is between 11 and 12 million.
     
  13. shootersa

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    The general is a lying hypoctrite.
    He can divert and minimalize and attack all he wants.
    Doesn't save his credibility or his reputation.
     
  14. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    So, about the whole “some kids’ lives are more important than other kids’ lives” front, where are we?
     
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    Gee maybe shootersa is so blinded by his hate for me so much he can't even see you. But I doubt it. Its a lot easier just to parriot the same old worn out personal attacks then it is to be confronted with his own words.
     
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    Shooters words are clear and easy to understand.
    He puts the lives of Americans first.
    It does not mean he doesn't care about other lives.
    That is not a difficult concept to understand.

    It is impossible to say one cares about the lives of kids when they are used to advance a political agenda.
    That also is not a hard concept to understand.
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      Shooter Mexico is part of America. Remember America is a continent group consisting of both North America which includes Canada, the US, and Mexico, and South America.
      Tienes tanto o aprender sobre el mundo que hasta ahora parece haber ignorado. Tal vez si alguna vez te alejaste de tu mundo de pan blanco para ver el mundo, entenderías que a veces un riesgo es mejor que el cierto resultado de permanecer donde estás.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Aug 29, 2018
    2. shootersa
      Irrelevant to the discussion.
      Mexican (or central or south american or canadian) citizens are not American citizens.
      But you already know that.
       
      shootersa, Aug 29, 2018
    3. Sanity_is_Relative
      No I don't because they are Americans because they were born in America; what you mean is they are not US citizens but are too ignorant to know that the name of the nation is not America, it is the United States Of America.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Aug 30, 2018
    4. shootersa
      Jesus
      Really?
      So in the same sense we're all citizens of earth?
      Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
       
      shootersa, Aug 30, 2018
  17. stumbler

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    @shootersa

    Why you just keep repeating this same lie over and over again shootersa? Especially when I already called you out on it and then you back tracked and said I did but you didn't believe me.

    It is just plainly stupid for you to keep telling the same lie over and over again when the proof you are liying is right on this same page.
     
    1. shootersa
      Your credibility cannot go any lower.
      Old bones.
      Using kids to advance your political agenda.
      Spewing about immigrant children being "ripped from the arms of their mothers and locked in cages" but silent when American families are permanently separated because of the murders comitted by ILLEGAL imigrants.
      You dhould just siddown. You're embarrasing yourself
       
      shootersa, Aug 29, 2018
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    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    That’s just such nonsense.

    Your words are clear, and repeated above.

    You’re trying to create equivalency where it isn’t, and claim equivalency where you’ve denied it.

    The Trump administration changed a policy with respect to how asylum applications were handled in order to be able to take children from their parents, specifically to act as a deterrent for people planning to come and ask for asylum. If that isn’t using children as a bludgeon to advance a political agenda, I don’t know what is.

    Plain. Simple. And if that doesn’t sicken you, you’re missing something fundamental in your moral makeup.
     
    1. shootersa
      What sickens Shooter more is how fake Americans put the lives of everyone else above American lives and politicize anything just to spew about trump.
       
      shootersa, Aug 29, 2018
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    I could not have said it better myself and it exposes shootersa for the complete fraud he really is.
     
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    pigeons

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    American lives first - simple concept
     
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