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  1. conroe4

    conroe4 Lake Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    It's the job of the IRS, it's none of your business.

    There's that cut bait with a hook in it again. You just don't know how to have a conversation without being abrasive, do ya?
    Ok you washed up rig hand, washed up newpaper editor, addled drug head, and gin sponge, with a lime.
    I get my news from Fox and ABC13, and some from links on here, some from other forums. Some from newsletters I get through email.
    Conservative fighters, and such. But I don't go and PASTE 14 fucking pages of that, and I don't do it over several threads, all at once.
    I don't make you scroll though page after page after page like you do to us. It's ridiculous.

    So there ya have it...I spit the bait out also, but hey, you buy a boat, trailer, truck, haul it all to the lake not forgetting your expensive rod and tackle, hopefully you have a license,
    and after spending all that money, hooksets are free. So go man, set that hook, ya never know, ya might foul hook something, even if it's a rock.

    Oh yeah, I forgot a couple, the Houston Chronicle, and we call it the Houston Comical.
    And the Conroe Courier, but that's mainly local news. Their reporters can't hold a candle
    to rawstory...LOL
     
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  2. latecomer91364

    latecomer91364 Easily Distracte

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    That's bullshit - you lefties are always trying to take away people's rights to privacy, saying "If you have nothing to hide, then just show them to us." It's because there's no law forcing even POTUS or anybody else to make their tax returns public. It's just none of your business, no matter how hard you contort logic to show there's some kind oi 'good reason' that you absolutely have to see them - just more Dem bullying.

    Perhaps tax returns could be gotten through subpoena, but for that you have to have an actual crime you're investigating - not a 'suspect' where you hope to find some kind of evidence of some kind of crime.

    Ahhh... but you mindless lefties think that just because in your heart, you KNOW he has to have done something at some point, it's okay to trash the law and the Constitution.
     
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  3. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Thank you.

    You straight up answered my question.

    I always wondered about this. And this is the most writing I think I have ever seen you do. Kind of like a drilling analysis report.

    And none of the rest of them will probably unde3rstand. But it was the can't get it reference wan't it?
     
    1. conroe4
      Nah, it was the way you asked so nicely.

      Besides, I had to write reports as part of the job...I retired from that in 2011 and never looked back.
      I prefer just giving drive-by comments and tossing roadblocks like my bosses used to do to me.
       
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  4. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I have never seen stumbler as abrasive as to call someone what I high lighted. :yuck:

    And stumbler has flamed me as harshly as anyone here. :eek:
     
    1. conroe4
      Ok, I take back the gin sponge with lime.
       
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  5. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    Your feelings got hurt over this?


    Fuck, it hurt my feelings, due to the fact that I didn't think about writing it first..
     
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  6. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Now it looks like the state of New York is also going to go after Trump's taxes.
     
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    foxpoll_trump_tax_returns.png
     
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  8. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Fine. And while were at it, lets see all the elected officials returns....
     
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      Yeah, but...
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 16, 2019
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  9. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Now you ought to think about this. Not just to he is. But what he did and what he plead guilty to.

    Manafort associate begs for leniency after getting busted for steering foreign funds to Trump’s inauguration

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/ma...d-steering-foreign-funds-trumps-inauguration/
     
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  10. Sanity_is_Relative

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    They Say It’s Bad Now But Republicans Disclosed Private Tax Returns In 2014

    WASHINGTON ― The Trump administration and its defenders in Congress argue that Democrats are breaking the rules in seeking the president’s private tax information.

    “We should not be in a situation where individual private tax returns are used for political purposes,” Jay Sekulow, one of President Donald Trump’s private attorneys, said Sunday on ABC News’ “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

    “When you have people in the Congress who, for political reasons, are trying to get access to someone’s tax returns, that’s as wrong as it gets,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Friday on C-SPAN.

    Accusing Democrats of having “political” ― as opposed to legitimate oversight ― reasons for wanting to see Trump’s tax returns is the GOP’s main talking point these days.

    And as talking points go, it’s an awkward one. Republicans themselves used private tax returns for political purposes just a few years ago, and they used the very same law that Democrats are now relying on to request the last six years of Trump’s tax returns.

    Back in 2013, Republicans thought the Internal Revenue Service under President Barack Obama was mistreating conservative groups that wanted to be recognized as tax-exempt nonprofits. So they asked the IRS to hand over tax information for conservative groups such as Crossroads GPS as well as a few liberal groups such as Priorities USA.

    Congress has the power to ask for copies of anyone’s tax return thanks to a 1924 law enacted as a check on corruption in the executive branch.

    In 2014, after getting the documents on the groups they requested, plus tax info relating to several dozen other organizations, Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee made it all public. They believed it showed that an IRS official named Lois Lerner had unfairly plotted to deny tax-exempt status to Crossroads GPS and other conservative groups. The committee included the documents as an attachment to a letter asking the Justice Department to prosecute Lerner. During a closed-door hearing, the committee’s Republicans voted to make the letter public.

    The Justice Department declined to prosecute Lerner, and it ultimately turned out that the IRS had improperly picked on both conservative and liberal organizations.

    A spokesman for Republicans on the Ways and Means Committee now said the only comparison between the Lerner episode and Democrats’ request for Trump’s taxes is that in both cases, the IRS is being used against political enemies.

    “The 2013 investigation was initiated only after the IRS publicly admitted to targeting certain taxpayers based on their political beliefs,” the spokesman said, “and only after an audit report by the Inspector General revealed that politically motivated criteria were used by political appointees of the Obama administration to identify tax-exempt applications for review.”

    It’s true that lawmakers have to have a legitimate purpose for obtaining and disclosing private tax information, according to George Yin, a tax professor at the University of Virginia School of Law. But in 2014, Republicans themselves “failed to satisfy this almost trivial, commonsense restriction,” Yin argued in a 2016 paper, which said that most of the private information the committee published was irrelevant to the claims against Lerner. By contrast, Yin wrote in a 2017 commentary, using the law to look at Trump’s returns in order to expose possible conflicts of interest is exactly what the law’s authors intended.

    Trump is the first modern president not to divest from his businesses upon taking office and not to disclose a single year of tax information, which could reveal details about his income and how much tax he pays.

    During a Ways and Means oversight hearing in February, Republicans invited Ken Kies, who formerly served as tax counsel for the committee, to testify about the law that gives Congress access to tax returns. Kies warned Democrats that according to his reading of the statute, disclosing private tax information ― even if it has been obtained through a legitimate request ― may be a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

    When Democrats asked Kies if Republicans had broken the law in 2014, he said they “absolutely” had.

    Democrats have said they won’t rush to publicize any information they receive from the Treasury Department. The Trump administration, for its part, has hinted that it will not obey the law and will instead argue in court that Democrats don’t have a legitimate reason to get at the president’s private tax information.

    In light of Republicans’ past tax disclosures, Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) said Friday that the privacy defense is “pretty hypocritical.”
     
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  11. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Oh, this is the cap on the septic tank called "main stream media"!

    The irs scandal surfaced only after the irs admitted they were focusing on conservative non profits, and it was directed by political appointees.

    Demands to see trumps tax returns is more of the same political weaponizing, but with a bit of spin........ its deplorable hypocrisy.

    Really.
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      Keep sucking on the koolaid fountain.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Apr 9, 2019
    2. anon_de_plume
      Except you forget that several times, Trump told us he would release his taxes. And the IRS has said that being under audit is not a valid reason to withhold them. He has also backtracked and said, "I might release them after I'm out of office."

      But we both know he only says that to taunt others.
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 16, 2019
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  12. ace's n 8's

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    With the left attempting to see Trumps tax returns, surely they will find some impeachable offense within the stacks of paper, that nobody in Congress will be able to understand.
     
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  13. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    Trump Promised To Release His Tax Returns But Will Defy The Law To Keep Them Secret


    Donald Trump is trying to defy a law requiring the Internal Revenue Service to turn over his tax returns upon request to Congress, despite Trump’s repeated promises that he would disclose them if he ran for president.

    “If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns. Absolutely. I would love to do that,” Trump said in a May 2014 television interview, 13 months before announcing his presidential campaign.

    “I want to tell you right now I have no problem with giving my tax returns,” he told Fox News in April 2015, two months before coming down his escalator in Trump Tower.

    But 1,392 days following that announcement, Trump’s new position is that perhaps no one will see his tax returns, ever.

    “I got elected. They elected me,” Trump told reporters Friday — repeating a relatively new talking point that American voters don’t care about his returns because they would not have elected him otherwise.

    “Oh, no, never. Nor should they,” his chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, told Fox News on Sunday when asked if Democrats would ever get Trump’s returns. “Keep in mind, that that’s an issue that was already litigated during the election. Voters knew the president could have given his tax returns, they knew that he didn’t, and they elected him anyway.”

    And a lawyer for Trump informed the Treasury Department that Trump objects to House Ways and Means Committee chairman Richard Neal’s request for six years of Trump’s tax returns, calling it an attempt to score “political points against President Trump.”
    In a letter Friday, William Consovoy wrote that the Massachusetts Democrat had no “legislative purpose” in asking for the returns and was opening a “Pandora’s box” by doing so. “The IRS should refrain from divulging the requested information until it receives a formal legal opinion from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel,” Consovoy wrote.


    “The law is very clear,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said last week, adding that Democrats who now control that chamber would not be “walking away” from their demand.

    Trump for years claimed that releasing his returns was of little consequence to him, and in fact would just prove how rich and successful a businessman he really was.

    “Maybe I’m going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate. I’d love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama’s birth certificate,” Trump said in April 2011, back when he was the national face of the false, racially motived claim that Obama was not born in the United States.

    (Obama wound up releasing his birth certificate later that month; Trump did not, however, release his tax returns.)

    Trump during the 2012 presidential campaign berated GOP nominee Mitt Romney for waiting too long to release his returns and getting a lot of unnecessary media attention because of it. “If you didn’t see the tax returns, you would think there is almost something wrong,” Trump said on Sean Hannity’s show in January that year.

    After Trump was officially a candidate himself, though, his statements about releasing his returns began to change.


    “We will see what I am going to do with tax returns. I have no major problem with it, but I may tie them to a release of Hillary’s emails,” Trump told CBS News in August 2015.

    In January 2016, he told NBC News that he intended to release them but that the returns were so massive that it was taking time to review them. “We’re working on that now. I have very big returns, as you know, and I have everything all approved and very beautiful and we’ll be working that over in the next period of time,” he said.

    On Feb. 10, 2016, he told NBC that he would release his returns “over the next few months” and that the holdup was the size and complexity. “It’s the very big tax returns. The biggest, I guarantee you this, the biggest ever in the history of what we’re doing,” he said. “So, it’s very complicated stuff. But we’ll be releasing that.”

    But toward the end of that month, Trump began claiming a new reason for not disclosing his returns: “For many years, I’ve been audited every year. Twelve years, or something like that. Every year, they audit me, audit me, audit me,” he said at a GOP candidates’ debate on Feb. 25, 2016. “I will absolutely give my return, but I’m being audited now for two or three years, so I can’t do it until the audit is finished. Obviously.”

    Trump wound up becoming the first major party presidential nominee in 40 years to refuse to release his tax returns — a custom that was established after the scandal-plagued White House of Richard Nixon.


    Previous presidents released their tax returns annually, even though those returns were also under routine audit.

    Trump’s lawyer appears to be alluding to that in his letter last week. “The IRS is already conducting its own examination,” Consovoy wrote, citing that as another reason why Neal’s request is inappropriate.
     
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  14. stumbler

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    The Dictator in Chief marches on to the cheers of his supporters. You go Fuhrer. No laws apply to you. You, your family, and your entire administration are above all laws.


    Steve Mnuchin admits Treasury Dept. coordinated with White House on Trump’s tax returns despite legal roadblocks


    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/st...-trumps-tax-returns-despite-legal-roadblocks/
     
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  15. stumbler

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    MSNBC’s Katy Tur busts GOP congressman defending Trump’s refusal to hand over his taxes — by reading him the tax code

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/ms...d-over-his-taxes-by-reading-him-the-tax-code/
     
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      That ... sounds very familiar. :laugh:
       
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  16. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Just as an update to a previous post I might have created the wrong impression that the news sites I post from are all I watch and/or read which is not the case. On a daily basis I check more than 20 news sites which includes ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, and Fox News. I also subscribe to email updates from more than a dozen newspapers. I just wanted to clear that up.

    Trump IRS chief admits there’s no rule preventing release of president’s tax returns while under audit

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/tr...venting-release-presidents-tax-returns-audit/
     
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  17. shootersa

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    So, lets get every elected and appointed federal officials tax returns and publicize them.
     
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      Yeah, but...
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 16, 2019
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  18. stumbler

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    You know I actually go a step further. I have always thought individual tax returns should be public records. And not just politicians. But everyone. But laws would have to be passed for that. When there is a law right now that says Trump's tax returns must be handed over. The same law that has actually been used by Republicans to get the tax returns of liberals. The same law that as far as anyone knows this is the first time the Treasury Department has refused to just comply with. Because Trump. No laws apply to the mad king decorator. And his phony lying hypocritical supporters who used to say they were "conservatives" are just fine with that.

    Steve Mnuchin could be held in contempt of Congress over Trump tax return flub

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/steve-mnuchin-held-contempt-congress-trump-tax-return-flub/
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      "the mad king decorator"

      Pretty funny!
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 16, 2019
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  19. stumbler

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    Steven Mnuchin gets dismantled by a conservative who is fed up with his ‘brazen defiance of the law’

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/st...mantled-conservative-fed-brazen-defiance-law/
     
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    1. shootersa
      Mnunchin and holden have so much in common now.....
       
      shootersa, Apr 12, 2019
    2. anon_de_plume
      Who's Holden?
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 16, 2019
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  20. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    The only thing that might bother the Trumpers from the tax returns would be for the revelation that Trump's net debts exceed his net assets by several times, and that he is in debt to several unsavory characters in other countries.

    A major aspect of Trump's appeal has been that he is so rich that he does not need to cater to anyone. Knowing that Trump is badly in debt, and that his lavish lifestyle is a facade would end that.