My daughter told my wife that many doctors have already been vaccinated?
Maybe volunteered for the test?? I haven't had the chance to get clarification about that

 

Pfizer say they "HOPE to be able to" produce 50 million doses of their vaccine
by the end of the year ,
and
1.3 Billion doses by the end of 2021.

Great news .
But sobering.

In terms of covid , 26 months is a long time ,
and
how many people can 1.3 billion doses treat in that time ?
How many doses to achieve immunity ?
How long does immunity last ?

If people don't get a lot smarter ,
and carry on experimenting with their and their loved ones lives ,
there may be a lot of their families and friends missing by then.

At least another million ,
and at current rates of stupidity , more than another 2.5 million.
(not to mention the much bigger numbers with medium to long term serious effects)

buckle up folks
this rollercoaster has a long way t go yet

 

There are lots of these kinds of headlines right now. Because reality is coming to bear.

Massachusetts Prepares to Open Field Hospitals as COVID Cases Climb

https://www.thedailybeast.com/massa...field-hospitals-as-covid-cases-climb?ref=home

 

*sighs
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html



New US cases November 9, 103,657 Deaths, 745.


And looking at new cases and deaths worldwide, the US is not exceeding the world.
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...kksKV7EKpicX5Sfl1iWWVRarJCcWJxaDACDgo3bgQAAAA

But hey, always good to scare the hell out of people with figures that don't lie, but with liars that figure.

 

The COVID Tracking Project
@COVID19Tracking
Our daily update is published. States reported 1.2 million tests and 131k cases, the highest single-day total since the pandemic started. There are 62k people currently hospitalized with COVID-19. The death toll was 1,347.

5:30 PM · Nov 10, 2020

 

Nothing much has changed.
Better management , and knowledge and learning has improved/lessened the overall fatality rate a little ,
but it's still running around the 2.5% to something under 3% where it's rampant.

With such a veriety of micky mouse testing , recording and tabulating that so many countries are doing/using , we'll likely never know the true toll ,
and it will certainly be a long time before we have any true idea of the actual long term serious health issues it is leaving for more people than we care to admit yet.

It is already quite evident that many people may have shortened life expectancy ,
some likely very much shorter.

One of the serious concerns should be ,
with the on going continual avoidance of serious efforts to control it around so much of the world ,
is the ever present risk that it could evolve or mutate into a more deadly form at any stage ,
ah la SERS , with about a 30% fatality rate.

It is well documented that it is evolving all the time , sometimes quite quickly , and often , as clearly evidenced by the gnome history .already recorded.

(recently we had a variant of our very own ,
at that stage not recorded anywhere else in the world ,
and that's with our total of only a couple of thousand cases , the majority imported)

Giving it years to evolve , as many are ,
is a free pass gift to an evolving virus , that's for sure .

 

The fucker will evolve and mutate no matter what is done to minimize its effect.

Can hardly wait to watch Biden deal with it and the spin the media puts on it.

Or the excuses despicables make for him.

 

Trump and Pence tried to take credit for the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine but the development of this vaccine wasa not funded by operation warp speed!

More lies!



Thinskin

 

Here in the Netherlands the shlter at home mandate seems to be having positive effects!

Coronavirus cases drop by 32% in a week, lockdown to be eased next week

Coronavirus cases fell by almost one-third in the past seven days, raising hopes that lockdown measures can be eased next week. The latest weekly report by the public health agency RIVM recorded 43,621 new infections, a 31.9% drop from the previous week’s total of 64,087. Hospital admissions were also down by 23% at 1,520, while the number of patients admitted to intensive care fell from 321 to 275. However, the number of recorded deaths from Covid-19 increased from 435 to 565. The proportion of tests returning a positive result fell from 16.6% to 14.5%, still well above the World Health Organization’s target level of 5%. Crucially, the R number, which represents the estimated rate at which the virus is spreading, was calculated to be 0.91 on October 23. If the number is below 1 it means the number of infections in the population is declining. The latest daily figures showed a slight drop of six to 4,695. At the peak of the second wave, on October 30, 11,119 new cases were recorded.

Health minister Hugo de Jonge said the extra restrictions imposed on November 4, such as closing museums, swimming pools, libraries and zoos, would be lifted next week if the falling trend continues. However, bars and restaurants will stay closed for another month. ‘My expectation is that we can end those measures after two weeks, as we said, and return to the partial lockdown we had before,’ he told NOS. ‘But we still need to keep going for a while so we can collectively drive down the infection rate even further. You might say we have turned the corner, but we need to keep up a strong downward trend because the number of infections is still far too high.’ De Jonge also said extra regional lockdown measures such as a curfew or shutting secondary schools would not be needed in the areas with the highest infection levels, such as Rotterdam and Twente.



https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/...-32-in-a-week-lockdown-to-be-eased-next-week/

Thinskin

 

From Reuters....

U.S. reports more than 100,000 COVID-19 cases for seventh day in a row

SYDNEY (Reuters) - The United States reported a record number of new COVID-19 cases for the seventh day in a row on Tuesday, according to a Reuters tally, while the number of deaths surged to their highest daily count since August.

With case numbers still being filed by a handful of states, the U.S. had reported at least 134,000 new infections by late Tuesday. It has reported an average of 120,000 cases every day for the past week.

The daily death toll stood at 1,450, the first time it has risen above 1,400 since mid-August.

Hospitalizations of infected people also continued to climb rapidly, reaching 61,471 by late Tuesday, the highest ever during the pandemic.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-cases-for-seventh-day-in-a-row-idUSKBN27R09T

Thinskin

 

The Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine was not funded by the USA it was funded by Germany!

Prognosis
Pfizer Vaccine’s Funding Came From Berlin, Not Washington

It’s said that success has many authors, and the encouraging data from Pfizer Inc.’s experimental Covid-19 vaccine had plenty of people in Washington lining up to take credit.

Vice President Mike Pence was among Trump administration officials saying support from the government’s Operation Warp Speed program helped accelerate the development of the vaccine, which was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 infections in an interim analysis.



The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government.

BioNTech is credited for contributing the messenger RNA technology, which prompts the body to make a key protein from the virus, creating an immune response. The biotechnology company already had a history of working with Pfizer on influenza vaccines, and in March they clinched a deal to co-develop a shot to prevent against Covid-19 at research sites both in the U.S. and Germany. The two companies began human testing of the vaccine in April, before the existence of Operation Warp Speed was revealed publicly.

Berlin gave the German company $445 million in an agreement in September to help accelerate the vaccine by building out manufacturing and development capacity in its home market.

What the U.S. did, meanwhile, was commit to buying hundreds of millions of vaccines in advance to ensure Americans were among the first in line if it clinches an emergency-use authorization or approval from the FDA. The Trump administration agreed in July to pay almost $2 billion for 100 million doses, with an option to acquire as many as 500 million more, once that clearance comes.

As part of that agreement, the U.S. gets to decide who gets the vaccine first, and will work with the company on logistical support. While most vaccine front-runners that have been tapped by Warp Speed will distribute their doses through a government partnership with McKesson Corp., Pfizer is handling its own delivery of its products. The company has designed reusable containers that can keep the doses at ultracold temperatures, and is organizing trucks and flights to move them.

Operation Warp Speed is credited with speeding along several other vaccine programs, including one from Moderna Inc.that uses similar technology to Pfizer’s and could produce trial data later this month. The Trump administration’s rapid-vaccine operation, led by the Health and Human Services Department, the Defense Department, and other agencies, could well prove to be the reason many Americans get a vaccine in 2021, even if it’s not made by Pfizer.

Some Republicans, including Donald Trump Jr. and Texas Senator Ted Cruz, questioned the timing of Pfizer’s release of its positive data on Monday, almost a week after the presidential election -- with the implication that the information could’ve changed the outcome and tipped the scales toward President Donald Trump, who lost to former Vice President Joe Biden.

said on Oct. 27, a week before Election Day, that it hadn’t met the threshold for positive cases that would’ve allowed it to report the data. After that, it revised its trial protocols to raise that threshold higher, after consulting with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on what would be acceptable to gain approval. The FDA has been under pressure from scientists to set tough standards for a vaccine so that Americans will feel it has been rigorously vetted and is safe to use.

If Pfizer hadn’t raised its threshold in response to the FDA’s recommendations, it’s possible it could’ve hit the lower bar of 32 positive cases before the Nov. 3 election. But it’s unclear when the trial hit that number. The company didn’t find out it had surpassed the new, revised threshold of 62 positive cases until Sunday.

All along, Pfizer’s top executives have attempted to quell notions that it has been influenced by political players.

Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla has repeatedly said that the drug giant has avoided taking taxpayer dollars for research and development purposes.

“I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy,” Bourla said in an interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sept. 16. “When you get money from someone, that always comes with strings. They want to see how we are growing to progress, what types of moves you are going to do. They want reports. I didn’t want to have any of that.”

“Basically I gave them an open checkbook so that they can worry only about scientific challenges, not anything else. And also, I wanted to keep Pfizer out of politics, by the way,” Bourla added.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington

Thinskin

 

Really?
How many years have we been fighting viruses with marginal success?

Easy to say "isolate and eliminate" if it isn't your life being upended for little or no change in the pandemic.

We cannot stop living because we're afraid of dying.
[end quote: ]

********

Well but
The same old pathetic rhetoric , with no basis in reality.

We've been fighting cancers for decades to , but we don't give up just because it takes some effort and inconvenience.
We enjoy the successes , and continue to improve and gain more successes.

We've had more than marginal success with many viruses , and have the potential for a lot more , if ignorant people made just a little effort ,
and or ,
if ignorant people weren't misled
and kept ingnorant by misinformation and vested interests.

This virus Can be Controlled
and it Can be Eliminated ,
and it can be done reasonably quickly ,
and
in doing so is much cheaper ,
and in doing so is much cheaper and better for quality of life , lifestyles , social and business ,
than just letting it run rampant for years , and
dealing with the consequences probably for decades.

If authorities had taken this seriously , and informed their populations of the truth and the facts ,
and taken simple reasonable steps ,
this virus could be under control virtually everywhere ,
and eliminated from many places
BY NOW.

Control is simple.
Restrict then stop the spread
for two or three cycles plus a bit
20 to 50 days.

NEWS FLASH
Soap and Water KILLS COVID 19
along with othr things like 80% alcohol , and
UV C light (in as little as 30 seconds)
so personal precautions are inexpensive and very easy.
Don't touch you're face without washing your hands , for example.

But realistically , if many or most of your population is ignorant or ilinformed , there's not much hope ,
until the majority wise up.

Unfortunately , that means the rest of us have to have stricter border controls ,
and miss out on things that should be easy by now.

We have no limits on public gatherings , concerts , race meets , sports events socialising or anything like that ,
but because we've been well informed , and know the ever present risks from imports ,
many precautions are still taken voluntarily , so we can continue to enjoy or freedoms and social and business opportunities.
Precautions don't cost anything ,
and they impose no real restrictions in general ,
but they pay off handsomely.

I'm off to my watering hole now.
Cheers.

 

Across the world countries have tried everything from doing next to nothing, to hard lockdowns and quarantines.
It works until the strictest restrictions are eased up and then it comes roaring back.

No country has found the key.

What we have done is destroy economies and lives.

Politicized it.

Killed people, either with covid, as with the patients forced on the most vulnerable population, or with stress.

Yeah, we need to listen to the experts, but remember to that they are not Gods. Not one "expert" got it right from the beginning and much of what they advised was harmful, contradictory and plain wrong.
Its why we are not a nation run by "experts".

We wear masks. We distance. We wash.
And then we do stupid shit like shut down industries (restaurants and bars) and leave others open (hardware, grocery and liquor stores).

 

That must be why your case count is so high.

You do write some absolute garbage

G'night all.

Thinskin

 

And I don't know why he always seems to neglect to mention that by most standards the US is one of the worst in the world. Because we are dealing with COVID like a shit hole country.

 

There's quite a few countries that have it under control.

Take Taiwan for instance.....they recorded their first case on the exact same date as the US did.
Taiwan acted immediately and got it under control.
While tRump did virtually nothing to implement a coordinated attack on it and saw their infection rate skyrocket to over 10 million and nudging 250,000 deaths.
Taiwan hasn't hit 500 cases so far and have had only 7 deaths in total.

 

Yes, lets look at Taiwan
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/30...ing-covid-19-using-electronic-health-records/

Two things stick out about Taiwan.
First, they are a culture that has already accepted masks.
Second, their health system allowed them to hack individual medical records and force people to be tested and quarantined.

Now, we can quickly go with masks, it shouldn't be a big issue to say wear a mask and distance. It became a big deal when early on the advice was contradictory and delivered weakly. That is on Trump and Fauci and the medical "experts".

What was worse was the disjointed, contradictory practices. We don't have a national data bank of health records, we have HIPPA. If Trump had ordered any of the actions Taiwan took he would have been crucified. Hell, he was crucified anyway. Called a racist.

You also need to recognize we are 50 states, and each decided how to handle covid. Hell, each county decides. Remember when Trump tried to send feds in to deal with riots?
Imagine if he tried to federalize the response to covid!

No matter. His fault, no matter what.

New Zealand has done better with it also.

But the real positive news is that the medicos are rapidly learning how to deal with it. Deaths have not increased even though new cases have skyrocketed.

Course, that isn't news, is it?

 

More problems exposed in remdesivir trial that claims statistically siginicant survival rates with remdesivir.



Thinskin