The current new variants are not the ones to worry about , re the vaccines.
It is the fact that they vary/mutate faster also.

Hence more people getting infected faster =

more variants faster =

more chances of a more difficult mutation every day it continues.
and every week and month that risk increases exponentially while it is increasing.

The only way to decrease that risk , is to decrease the numbers ,and that is not being achieved.

We always knew it could happen , now the first warning shot is already here and been fired.

What will the next few months produce ?
if we don't get some control and slow this thing down.
The constant problem is that there is already a more dangerous variation spreading any day , for days before we know if it.

 

UK - 68,000 cases yesterday

Now tell us about the idea that getting down to 12,000 cases was a good time to lift restrictions ,
and open things up again

They'll rue that day for long time.

The day they left 12,000 cases mutating and spreading again.

 

Sadly Aussie is suffering from yoyoitis to,
or at least the east coast states are.

Now Queensland , having tried to open up to quickly to some things ,
has Brisbane basically in lockdown while they try to trace any victims of the new English fast spreader.

Here's another lesson .
The carrier , from England , was quarantined in New South Wales before traveling to Queensland.

Now the problem is ,
they were only quarantined for 10 days.

That's just stupidly risky ,
espescially when your already trying to open things to fast anyway.

It is known that this virus can be infectious for up to at least 14 days , after the last contact.

So a ten day only quarantine is just asking for problems.
(and that has to mean their last test had to be at least on only day nine)
No wonder they're for ever yoyoing.

We don't even do the second test untill 12 days in
(or for some soon it will be the third test)

Now they have to consider ,
they can not be sure there are no more cases
untill they pass the 14 day mark after the last known contacts ,
and that holds for every new community case they find.

and remember it is the fast spreader variant

 

My sister in law who is a former nurse and now hospital administrator has helped vaccinate all front line staff at a hospital here.

660 vaccinations in three days and because she is not frontline she does qualify for a vaccination yet.

Goed gedaan!

Thinskin

 

Got yours yet?

 

I am not high enough risk but were you here you would be happy to know dementia patients are higher on the list than me so you would be before me!

Thinskin

 

You assume a fact not in evidence.
Shooter does not have dementia.
Where are the mentally challenged on your priority list?
That might get you your shot sooner.
(by the way, isn't setting priorities for who gets vaccinations ........... when they finally start that is ............. a sort of rationing of medical care that you have accused the US health care system of?)

 

I think the Netherlands was the last EU nation to start vaccinations. I've read quite a few stories that accuse the Dutch government of screwing it up.

 

Later than all!
One wag called Netherlands the village idiot of the European Community.

On a different note news out of Florida is that stem cells were used experimentally to treat Covid, and of the volunteers under 65, all were rapidly and completely cured, of the over 65 volunteers, over 90% were quickly cured.

Approval to fast track the experiment is being sought.

 

Yes, Kiwis do have world class medicos and facilities. One of thr residents on Shooters surgical team trained in New Zealand.

He noted that Kiwis blood circulates the opposite of northern hemisphere citizens.

 

Ive been wondering how they were getting in with the development of a covid breathalyser test.

Tonight I see Indonesia has started using them.
Not very reliable yet , but got to be better than nothing , or nowhere near enough.

It only takes 80 seconds to produce results.

You blow in the bag , then they plug the blow tube into an electronic sniffer ,
and it gives a negative or positive reading.

It is not very good at distinguishing between covid and some other ailments ,
but a good start ,
and surely greatly reduces the number needing further testing ,
and ,
there and then , on the spot.

I knew a few have been working on it , again , including here , but nothing about it for a long time.
Hope it proves a handy tool in practice.

The world needs to be able to test more much faster , with these new variants .
( 5 known I think now)

We now have 19 of the English fast spreader imports , and 1 of the South African ,
in quarantine )

It is time to slow down our import rate , before it overwhelms our boarder workers.
But
once again our government will be
"watching developments"
again
and likely not get to taking the inevitable action , untill something goes wrong ,
and it bites then on the butt

Really bloody stupid , when you think about it logically.
After all , after all this time on restricted border traffic ,
what real actual difference will slowing it down to a manageable safer number for a few weeks.
F A
Give the overworked staff a chance to breath untill the vaccine arrives at least.

If they start catching the fast spreaders ,
we'll be in real trouble ,
or
the border will have to shut down completely.

 

As of yesterday, more than 265,000,000 tests for COVID-19 have been administered in the US, and test results are available 1-2 days after the lab receives the specimen.

Tests are free to everyone, through local health control systems.

 

This is something @slutwolf has been saying since the start of this thread nearly a year ago. This virus is going to be a motherfucker to try and stamp out and might not be even possible.

China Struggling With New COVID-19 Surge After Claiming Victory in Pandemic

https://www.thedailybeast.com/china...e-after-claiming-victory-in-pandemic?ref=home

 

Here we go
highly at risk of to little to late
Yet Again.

. * * * * *
Covid-19: Lockdown expected if UK or South African variant found in community - Shaun Hendy
Almost a quarter of the country's live cases are now the UK variant with that amount expected to increase.
all in manager isolation quaratine
.
* * *

There is an increased risk of community transmission from the UK strain of Covid-19 that is now arriving in the country, says epidemiologist Michael Baker.
*
There were 31 new imported cases of Covid-19 reported today.

* * *

3 minutes ago ;
Nearly 200 more international fishermen have made their way to Christchurch, with some testing positive for Covid-19 on arrival.

In an update from the Ministry of Health, it said the group of Ukrainian and Russian mariners arrived on Wednesday last week.

Eleven of them tested positive for Covid-19 and have been transferred to a quarantine facility in Christchurch.

* * *

Covid-19: MIQ nurses concerned about staffing, instability at border facilities

Oh , they've finally noticed.
So fucking do something real about it.
Now.
Not Tomorrow.

* * *

NZ Covid risk 'almost never been higher'

No shit Sherlock ?

So what did I say above yesterday .
Do they need a fucking updated map with GPS predictions and a radar alarm to remind them ?

If this government dosen't wake the fuck up quickly ,
and goes back to being Muppets acting like bunnies again ,
it will be to late.

We WILL be back in deep shyte

likely deeper than ever before.

Shut the fucking borders down , NOW ,
at least for a few days ,
and re-evaluate the developing situation ,
and reopen with reduced risk to border staff.

 

Surprise surprise ,

professors and other medical experts are calling on the government to act now , not to late ,
and consider closing our borders to at least the countries worst effected by the new fast spreader.
Their quite strong demands for NZ ,
where interference in government by other authorities is frowned upon in most cases.
But definitely justified now.

And , in yet another exposé
After being continuously told our vaccines will arrive in early to mid March ,

It turns out they are not due before mid April "at least"
Which in poli speak translates to "unlikely before at least May"

All the more reason to cut down the risky imports.

There's already warnings about the continual and ongoing stress on border and quaratine staff.

And there is rising calls for the government to fly in enough vaccines to protect border workers.
Why do they even need to be told ?

Princess Jacinda's crown is very tarnished and dillapidated already .
It'll fall apart completely if she's dosen't up her game
(this government has almost completely failed to deliver on promises for the whole of their last term , 3 years , and already this term.
and with continuous exposé of failings , misleading information etc ,
we are beginning to worry about just how much other governance information is wrong and misleading )

 

Wonder if @thinskin has his vaccination scheduled yet?

 

@shootersa

 

No excuse for the confusion and lack of organization getting the shots into the arms of the people.. Our federal and state governments knew for months a vaccine was coming, this isn't a surprise to anyone.

 

I do not know why slut wolf was suspended but here is an updated link from nature of the latest virus developments!

The list is updated regularly.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w

thinskin

 

another guy is also suspended