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  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Do you think it is acceptable to keep running up the deficit? Yes or no.

    The only time taxes and the national debt declined was during the administrations of Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. That was possible back then because they cut military spending.

    Why is it a good idea to cut taxes while raising defense spending? That is what Reagan, Bush II and Trump did.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Of course not.
      Is it acceptable to defend a president who had 8 years to do something to reduce deficits and did not, but demonize a president who has had less than two years to do something about the mess? Yes or no.
       
      shootersa, Nov 17, 2018
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  2. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Trump has said, and backed it up with action, that social security and medicare are off the table; they will not be cut.

    Despicables continue to shout that trump is going to cut social security. It is nothing more than a scare tactic.

    And the debt doubled in 8 years under the obama administration.
    How does that fucker sleep at night?
     
    1. Dearelliot
      Just as the debt doubled under Both Bushes and Reagan and oh wait not Bill Clinton what's that... under a democrat in office 8 yrs the debt only went up 20%
       
      Dearelliot, Nov 17, 2018
    2. shootersa
      Under obama the debt went from $9 trillion to $19 trillion in 8 years.
       
      shootersa, Nov 17, 2018
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  3. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    It will not be touched for those that are entitled, however, reform measures are in the future.

    'Cuz, that's all they got.

    He sleeps just fine, the goal was larger government and that is the result of larger government...more spending
     
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  4. Dearelliot

    Dearelliot Porn Star

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    What will it take: He started out like an idiot, the very first day it was The crowd at his inauguration was the biggest ever, EVER!!! and c'mon Trump lovers it hasn't stopped. He goes on with BS day in and day out!!! It has been non stop "HEY LOOK AT ME!" Then the lies the constant lies, he comes on tells you what he has done and most of it isn't true and he doesn't tell the whole story. "A million new jobs in steel" except NOT! ..Do you see where I'm going???
    And you ask When are you...
    His words, the words of those who are around him have no meaning. I cant put one ounce of credence into anything the man says in any way or what he allows those around him to say..
    So for a mature person to say I can give Trump credit, he has to be basing that statement on blind faith and I'm an atheist!

    So instead of as usual calling me names Tell me why cant the man act like any normal hard working leader, Why does he always have to be the guy at the party with the lamp shade on his head shouting "Hey I'm the president you're not!!" As for fake news , almost all of the news from the media has been true surely more fact based than FOX news.
     
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      Look.
      Trump is a pompous gas bag. We knew that about him from the beginning. Simply, he is not likeable. And thats what despicables have concentrated on from the beginning. HE LIED!! is the mantra. They have tried to ignore that trump has worked his agenda and is doing what he said he would do. A pleasant surprise.
      For that, trumps pomposity and his penchant for exaggeration is the lesser evil, when compared to other politicians who only take care of their business.
       
      shootersa, Nov 17, 2018
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      Hmmm are you really sure Trump isn't taking care of his business? Would you ever consider the amount of money the Trump clan has cleared since he became king? Did Saudi's loan his son in law maybe a half a billion dollars ? and that's silly to say He exaggerates, my god man he is a chronic absolute unbelievable outright liar!, and when you say what he has done, The jobs created under Obamas last 20 months in office equaled or exceed the job growth under trump first 20, the man has simply gotten on the gravy train driven by Obama. But truth be told Aces and sixes was right all wasted time talking here, I must be crazy wasting my time doing this, hell I could be out raking leaves..
       
      Dearelliot, Nov 17, 2018
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    3. shootersa
      Kay.
      Bye.
       
      shootersa, Nov 17, 2018
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  5. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Is it acceptable to defend a president who had 8 years to do something to reduce deficits and did not, but demonize a president who has had less than two years to do something about the mess? Yes or no.

    - shootersa

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    Yes. Nevertheless, Obama's mistake was in not in imposing a heavy tax burden on the rich. For two years he had Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress. For years public opinion surveys have indicated majority support for a more progressive tax system. Currently, economic inequality is as severe as it was going into 1929. We know how that turned out.

    Obama was climbing out of the Great Recession, which began under the administration of George the Lesser. President for Life Trump is riding on the economic recovery Obama orchestrated.

    The only time I am aware of that tax cuts happened at the same time the national debt was reduced was the administrations of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. Both also cut military spending. Since Reagan Republicans have thought it was acceptable to cut taxes while raising military spending.
     
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      Obama blew it. Let's face it, he blew it big time. Of all the recent presidents he had the best opportunity to do good for the country and its citizens and he utterly blew it. Why do you think he lost the House AND the Senate? The man was a complete failure.
       
      deleted user 777 698, Nov 18, 2018
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  6. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    So, impass.
    Shooter wants a smaller, less invasive, less expensive and more effecient government.

    Distant lover supports a larger, more invasive, more expensive, inefficient government.

    The thing is, distant lover wants to fund his government with someone else's money.

    Shooter is unwilling to be distant lovers funding source.
     
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I do not want an inefficient government. I want an expensive government, paid for by high taxes on the rich, that efficiently keeps the business community under control.

    Rich people who don't like it can move to a low tax country like Honduras. They should be required to keep wealth in this country. I will let them take with them a suitcase with two changes of clothing and toilet articles. I will help them pack.

    Since the Reagan administration, the rich have looted the country while paying lower taxes. I want a powerful government to force them to give back what they have taken from the rest of us.
     
    1. deleted user 777 698
      You are uneducated. No one in their right mind can value any opinion you have.
       
      deleted user 777 698, Nov 18, 2018
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  8. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Yep
    Impass.
     
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