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  1. stumbler

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    I will just say it again. This lose lose situation is just so fun to watch. And especially when the whole nation is watching. And this is what they are seeing.



    'Would break liberal brains': Trump mulls trip to D.C. to discuss entering speaker race

    Travis Gettys
    October 5, 2023 12:50PM ET


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    Donald Trump is intrigued by the possibility of serving temporarily as House Speaker – and is reportedly considering a trip to Capitol Hill in the next few days to speak with Republican leaders.

    The former president suggested Thursday morning that he would be willing to serve as speaker in the "short term" while running for a second term in the White House, and sources briefed on the conversations told The Messenger that he's been discussing the possibility with aides and allies.

    “A lot of people have been calling me about speaker," Trump said Wednesday during a break in his New York fraud trial. "All I can say is we'll do whatever is best for the country and the Republican Party."

    The sources said Trump's phone has been "blowing up" with Republicans urging him to go to Washington to meet with a group of candidates to replace the ousted House speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), but one source said he's deeply attracted to the idea of serving himself.

    “Speaker Trump would break liberal brains,” that source said.

    POLL: Should Trump be allowed to run for office?

    Another GOP insider familiar with the discussions said Trump wasn't actually interested but was considering it to help tamp down Republican infighting in Congress, but some Republicans were actively encouraging him to serve, which would violate the conference's own rules.

    "The ‘some’ is a big number," said another Republican familiar with Trump's thinking. "I just don’t know if he’s going to do it. Sometimes he believes he should go, other times he’s telling people it might be a bad idea."




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  2. anon_de_plume

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    I do love they are trying to blame the Democrats for McCarthy being ousted. Hell, even McCarthy tried blaming the Democrats. And now they lash out with the office maneuvers!
     
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    First of all there is some reporting that actually Matt Gaetz expected the Democrats would jump in and save Kevin The Coward and he could just grandstand.

    But there is also a lot of reporting that the straw that broke the camel's back was Kevin The Coward going on the Sunday shows lying about the Democrats and the shutdown. They actually played the video of McCarthy doing that and it was like fuck him if he's going to lie like that.
     
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    Patrick McHenry.....didn't be say "Give me Liberals or Give Me Debts?"
     
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    Why should it be up to the Democrats to bail McCarthy out? It was his decision to make deals with the ultra-right crazies to get the office in the first place. This is a textbook example of something coming back to bite you on the ass.
     
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      I didn't say it was up to the Democrats to bail McCarthy. But with the Republicans blaming the Democrats, it would appear they think the Democrats should have bailed him out.
       
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  6. umpire2

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    I know that you cannot simply "turn back the clock", but the Republican Party needs to clean house and that starts with the voters who not only tolerate idiocy, incompetence and undemocratic behaviors, but continue to re-elect public morons. I actually wish the Republican Party well IF they can return to the basic conservatism of the Eisenhower years.
     
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    Liz Cheney thinks Jim Jordan will lose Speakership vote
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    (R-Wy.) thinks Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will lose the Speakership vote if House Republicans choose him to fill the currently vacant seat.

    “If the Republicans decide that Jim Jordan should be the Speaker of the House … by the way, I don’t think that will happen, I think he’ll lose,” Cheney said in a speech Thursday at the University of Minnesota.

    Several Republicans have publicly endorsed Jordan to be the next speaker after the House voted Tuesday to remove former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in a historic, first-of-its-kind vote.


    Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) predicted Thursday that Jordan will earn enough votes to make him Speaker, more than House Majority Leader

    (R-La.), who also is vying for the seat.

    Cheney doesn’t think Jordan will earn enough votes, but if he were to do so, she said there would “no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected Republicans could defend against the Constitution.”

    Cheney said Jordan was part of former President Donald Trump’s plan to overturn the 2020 election.

    “Jim Jordan knew more about what Donald Trump had planned for Jan. 6 than any other member of the House of Representatives,” Cheney said. “Jim Jordan was involved, was part of the conspiracy in which Donald Trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election.”

    Cheney said there was a handful of people, Jordan being the leader, who knew what Trump had planned on that day. Cheney said in her speech that someone needs to ask Jordan why he didn’t report his knowledge about the events on Jan. 6 to Capitol Police.

    The race to become the next Speaker is still new, and others could join Jordan and Scalise in the battle for Speakership ahead of next week’s expected vote.

    Trump may be one of those joining the race. Trump told Fox News Digital on Thursday that he would accept a short-term role and serve as a “unifier” for the Republican party as Speaker.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/liz-cheney-thinks-jim-jordan-223159958.html
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Yeah, let's put a guy that doesn't respect government in charge of government!
       
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  8. Barry D

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    I'm pretty sure NO ONE CARES ABOUT LIZ CHENEY, especially the Democrypts.....
     
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  9. shootersa

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    Nope. Deplorables don't care and the despicables have dropped her like 2 week old tuna fish. You know, since they got their use out of her. She should have talked to Feinstein before she jumped.

    Appears they don't grow them very smart in Wyoming.:)
     
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  10. anon_de_plume

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    LOL! Personal attacks instead of addressing what she said...

    Not surprising coming from two mental midgets...
     
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      ...... coming from the genius ..........

      .... "mental midgits" ......

      Can't make this stuff up!:):):):)
       
      shootersa, Oct 6, 2023
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      Truth hurts...
       
      anon_de_plume, Oct 6, 2023
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    Hes the guy that said give me liberty or give me death.

    That dude is ollld...
     
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      It's actually his Irish cousin!
       
      anon_de_plume, Oct 6, 2023
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      Your facts are spoiling my funny
       
      Allie in cali, Oct 6, 2023
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  12. stumbler

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    The thread title should be who is the House Speaker?


    Trump Shoots Down Scalise’s Speaker Bid Over His Health Concerns: ‘Don’t Know How You Can Do the Job’ With Cancer
    Ken MeyerOct 12th, 2023, 1:44 pm

    Former President Donald Trump took an unusually measured approach by rejecting Rep. Steve Scalise’s (R-LA) House Speaker nomination on the grounds of the congressman’s health.

    Despite Trump endorsing Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) to succeed Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), Scalise clenched the GOP nomination for the role on Wednesday by winning the House Republican Conference vote. Questions remain about whether Scalise actually has enough votes to become speaker, and there have been recurring concerns about his health while he undergoes treatment for blood cancer.

    In a Thursday radio interview with Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade, Trump insisted that he likes “both” Jordan and Scalise, but argued against speakership for the latter because he’s “in serious trouble from the standpoint of his cancer.” Kilmeade repeatedly tried to ask if Scalise’s health was the primary motivator behind Trump’s Jordan endorsement, though Trump wouldn’t directly answer the question, focusing primarily on Scalise’s stamina between the cancer and the job demands.

    TRUMP: He’s got to get better for himself. I’m not talking about even the country now. I’m saying he’s got to get better. And this is tremendous stress. All of the things that you hear about and, you know, things that you don’t want to get involved in from the standpoint of getting. Well, Steve is going through very, very serious cancer therapy. And of course, then he had that horrible attack years ago that, you know, it was amazing that he he came back. I went to the hospital. I was with him the night it happened. I was literally with him, holding his hand. And I was there the night that it happened that the doctors gave him probably a 10 percent chance that he made it. But there’s tremendous after effects there. But he’s got a very serious form of cancer. And, you know, most importantly, I want Steve to get well, I just don’t know how you can do the job when you have — that’s a serious problem.

    KILMEADE: Is that the only reason you endorsed Jim Jordan?

    TRUMP: And you know what it does? The sweep is they drain you of strength. Supposedly. It’s like a draining of strength. And we need tremendous strength both inside and out, because we have radical left, lunatics like Nancy Pelosi and Schiff and all these crazy people that are so bad for our country. And they’ve got to fight them off and they’ve got to fight the outside world.

    KILMEADE: Right. So is that the only reason, Mr. President, is that the only reason?

    TRUMP: He is really hurt by by the, you know, the amount of everything that he’s going through.

    KILMEADE: Is that the only reason you pick Jim Jordan over Steve Scalise? His health?

    TRUMP: I like Jim. I think Jim’s great. I like them both, by the way. But I think Jim is a great, tremendous fighter, a tough guy. Really like him a lot. But, you know, don’t forget, they have a vote now. They have to vote. And I think it’s going to be very hard, maybe in either case, for somebody to get you know, if you lose four votes, you can’t get it. Don’t you know, I think Steve will lose far more than four. And I think probably Jim will, too. And then you end up in one of these crazy stalemates. It’s a it’s a very interesting situation. I like him very much. He likes me very much. I was there the night that he was so badly hurt. I was literally hearing that he wasn’t going to be able to make it from the doctors. They were saying that they did a great job and he did a great job. But, you know, he’s got to get well —

    KILMEADE: Is that the only reason you picked him over Jim Jordan? It looks like Jim Jordan will now vote for Steve Scalise.

    TRUMP: Well, I mean, look, I’m going to enjoy I’m going to be with anybody they pick. And if Jim decides to do that, that’s going to be up to Jim. But I will certainly be with anybody that, you know, I get along with. Frankly, I get along with all of them. But, I mean, the one thing with Steve, he’s got to get well, he’s got to get well, he’s got to get strong.


    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trum...dont-know-how-you-can-do-the-job-with-cancer/

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    1. anon_de_plume
      Despite what his followers might think, Trump isn't a doctor.
       
      anon_de_plume, Oct 13, 2023
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  13. stumbler

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    GOP's Scalise ends his bid to become House speaker after failing to secure the votes to win gavel
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    House Majority Leader Steve Scalise of La., talks to reporters as he announces he is ending his campaign to be the next House speaker after a Republican meeting at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, Oct. 12, 2023. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican

    ended his bid to become House speaker late Thursday after hardline holdouts refused to back the party’s nominee, throwing the GOP majority into deeper chaos with the chamber unable to function.

    Scalise told GOP colleagues at a closed-door evening meeting of his decision and pointedly declined to announce backing for anyone else, including his chief rival, Rep. Jim Jordan, the far-right Judiciary Committee chairman backed by

    who had already told colleagues he no longer would seek the job.

    Next steps are uncertain as the House is essentially closed while the Republican majority tries to elect a speaker after ousting Kevin McCarthy from the job.


    “I just shared with my colleagues that I’m withdrawing my name as a candidate for speaker-designee,” Scalise said as he emerged from the closed-door meeting at the Capitol.

    Scalise, R-La., said the Republican majority “still has to come together and is not there.”

    He had been working furiously to secure the votes after being nominated by a majority of his colleagues, but after hours of private meetings over two days and late into the evening it was clear lawmakers were not budging from their refusal to support him.

    Asked if he would throw his support behind Jordan, Scalise said, "It’s got to be people that aren’t doing it for themselves and their own personal interest.”

    He said he would push quickly for a resolution. “But it wasn’t going to happen. It wasn’t going to happen today. It wasn’t going to happen tomorrow. It needs to happen soon, but I’ve withdrawn my name,” he said.

    Frustrations have mounted as the political crisis spiraled and Republicans lost another day without a House speaker. Scalise was trying to peel off more than 100 votes, mostly from those who backed Jordan.

    But many hard-liners taking their cues from Trump have dug in for a prolonged fight to replace McCarthy after his historic ouster from the job. They argued that Majority Leader Scalise was no better choice, that he should be focusing on his health as he battles cancer and that he was not the leader they would support. No House votes were scheduled.

    McCarthy said afterward that Scalise would remain as majority leader but had no other advice for his colleagues. The California Republican had briefly flirted with a comeback bid but it's unclear if he would try again.

    “I just think the conference as a whole has to figure out their problems, solve it and select the leader,” he said.

    The House is entering its second week without a speaker and is essentially unable to function during a time of turmoil in the U.S. and wars overseas, and the political pressure increasingly is on Republicans to reverse course, reassert majority control and govern in Congress.

    Action is needed to fund the government or face the threat of a federal shutdown in a month. Lawmakers also want Congress to deliver a strong statement of support for Israel in the war with Hamas, but a bipartisan resolution has been sidelined by the stalemate in the House. The White House is expected to soon ask for money for Israel, Ukraine and the backfill of the U.S. weapons stockpile.

    The situation is not fully different from the start of the year, when McCarthy faced a similar backlash from a different group of far-right holdouts who ultimately gave their votes to elect him speaker, then engineered his historic downfall.

    But the math this time is even more daunting, and the problematic political dynamic only worsening.

    Scalise, who is seen by some colleagues as hero for having survived a 2017 shooting on lawmakers at a congressional baseball game practice, won the closed-door Republican vote 113-99.

    But Scalise would have needed 217 votes to reach a majority in a floor battle with Democrats. The chamber is narrowly split 221-212, with two vacancies, meaning Scalise could lose just a few Republicans in the face of opposition from Democrats who will most certainly back their own leader, New York Rep. Hakeem Jeffries. Absences heading into the weekend could lower the majority threshold needed.

    Jordan's backers revived calls for party members to get behind the Ohio Republican, who is a founding leader of the hard-right House Freedom Caucus.

    “Make him the speaker. Do it tonight,” said Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind. “He’s the only one who can unite our party. It’s time to get behind him.”

    Other potential speaker nominees were being floated, including from the leadership team, but splitting the votes multiple ways would almost certainly only complicate the factional dynamics in the House majority.

    Some Republicans simply want Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., who was appointed interim speaker pro tempore, to be given greater authority to lead the House. A proposal was floated for just that earlier Thursday by the conservative but pragmatic Republican Governance Group of lawmakers.

    Rank-and-file Republicans left Thursday night's meeting flummoxed about what to do next.

    "I’m a freshman caught up in this maelstrom,” said Rep. Mark Alford, R-Mo. “We’re a ship without a rudder right now. And I’m thoroughly disappointed in the process. And I just pray to God that we find something.

    Exasperated Democrats, who have been watching and waiting for the Republican majority to recover from McCarthy’s ouster, urged them to figure it out, warning the world is watching.

    “The House Republicans need to end the GOP Civil War, now,” Jeffries said.

    “The House Democrats have continued to make clear that we are ready, willing and able to find a bipartisan path forward,” he said, urging that the House reopen and change GOP-led rules that allowed a single lawmaker to put in motion the process to remove the speaker.

    As Congress sat idle, the Republicans spent a second day behind closed doors, arguing and airing grievances but failing to follow their own party rules and unite behind the nominee.

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, said the meetings had been marked by “emotional” objections to voting for Scalise.

    Some Republicans simply took their Chick-fil-A lunches to go.

    Jordan had given his most vocal endorsement yet to Scalise and announced he did not plan to continue running for the leadership position.

    “We need to come together and support Steve,” Jordan, R-Ohio, told reporters before the midday closed session.

    But it was not enough to sway the holdouts.

    Handfuls of hard-liners announced they were sticking with Jordan, McCarthy or someone other than Scalise.

    Rep. Troy Nehls, R-Texas, reaffirmed his support for Trump as speaker; the position does not need to go to a member of Congress.

    Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, repeatedly discussed Scalise's health during a radio interview that aired Thursday.

    “Well, I like Steve. I like both of them very much. But the problem, you know, Steve is a man that is in serious trouble, from the standpoint of his cancer,” Trump said on Fox News host Brian Kilmeade’s radio show.

    Scalise has been diagnosed with a form of blood cancer known as multiple myeloma and is being treated.

    “I think it’s going to be very hard, maybe in either case, for somebody to get,” Trump said. "And then you end up in one of these crazy stalemates. It’s a very interesting situation.”

    Many Republicans want to prevent the spectacle of a messy House floor fight like the grueling January brawl when McCarthy became speaker.

    But others said it was time for Republicans to get out from behind closed doors and vote.

    “Stop dragging it out,” said Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., on social media. “If Kevin McCarthy had to go 15 rounds then the next Speaker should be able to do the same or more if they have to.”



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    Great news for biden and the despicables.
    They can hold up aid to Israel and blame the deplorables.

    Course, biden didn't need congress to send the Ford or provide aid to ILLEGAL MIGRANTS did he?
     
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  15. stumbler

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    What's that we hear around here sometimes? How low can they go?

    Cancer survivor Jamie Raskin shames GOP for tanking Scalise Speaker bid over diagnosis

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    Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) was nominated by his Republican colleagues for speaker of the House, but many of them subsequently refused to back him – in part because of his cancer diagnosis.

    Scalise announced earlier this year that he has multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer that is treatable but not curable.

    And Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), who underwent treatment for cancer earlier this year and says his diffuse large B-cell lymphoma is in remission, shamed GOP lawmakers for abandoning their colleague.

    POLL: Should Trump be allowed to run for office?

    "When I came down with cancer, my Caucus colleagues rallied around to support me as Ranking Dem on Oversight," Raskin posted on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, Friday. "I’m dumbfounded that GOP Members (& Trump!) used Steve Scalise’s cancer as a reason to abandon him on the House floor — after nominating him for the job!"

    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) first questioned Scalise's ability to serve as speaker on Wednesday – saying he should fous on his health instead of the House job.

    After he was nominated for the job, Republican lawmakers raised similar concerns.

    "I think many members are concerned about that," said Rep. Bob Good of Virginia, a Scalise holdout. "I've heard them express the opinion that you just can't take on something more stressful if you're going through chemo."

    Scalise ultimately lost the vote for speaker, and Republicans have not yet found a candidate who appears they could win the job.



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    Republican head of the House's foreign policy committee said the current GOP caucus is 'one of the biggest threats' around
    Madison Hall
    Updated Fri, October 13, 2023 at 12:43 PM MDT·2 min read
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    • Rep. Mike McCaul said the House GOP caucus is 'one of the biggest threats' around.

    • McCaul currently leads the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

    • He said the Republican Party's inability to elect a new speaker helps America's adversaries.
    While the US is in the middle of funding wars in Ukraine and Israel, the Republican head of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs said that the GOP caucus itself is 'one of the biggest threats' around.

    "The world's on fire," Rep. Mike McCaul, a Texas Republican who leads the Foreign Affairs Committee and who formerly chaired the Committee on Homeland Security, said at a press conference Thursday evening. "Our adversaries are watching what we do... quite frankly, they like it."

    McCaul said he told the GOP caucus that the party's failure to speedily appoint a new speaker amidst global turmoil validates Chinese Leader Xi Jinping's claims that "Democracy doesn't work."


    He added that he had recently spoken to a contact in Israel, who said the country would need supplemental funding and "aid to replenish the Iron Dome," but that no help can happen until a new speaker is seated.

    "So I see a lot of threats out there," McCaul said, "but one of the biggest threats I see is in that room because we can't unify as a conference and put a speaker in the chair to govern... So it's very dangerous what we're doing, and I just wanted them to know that we're playing with fire."

    The last speaker of the House, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, was ousted by a group of eight Republican members and the entirety of the Democratic Caucus earlier this month following GOP firebrand Rep. Matt Gaetz filing the single "motion to vacate" needed to initiate the formal process.

    Days later, Hamas launched an attack on Israeli civilians, plunging the region into increasingly chaotic and gruesome warfare that's killed thousands. Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry does not currently have the authority to bring legislation to a vote in the House, leaving the chamber powerless until a full-fledged speaker is elected.

    Read the original article on Business Insider


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-head-houses-foreign-policy-164607388.html
     
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    Faced with more lawsuits, Ohio State denies covering up sex abuse scandal years after paying out millions in damages
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    Ohio State University has paid out $60 million in settlement money in the last few years to hundreds of former students and athletes who say they were sexually abused decades ago by a school doctor.

    Its former president has publicly apologized “to each person who endured” abuse at the hands of the late Dr. Richard Strauss.

    And the university has repeatedly said it was on the side of the hundreds of men that Strauss preyed on from the 1970s to the 1990s, mostly under the guise of performing medical exams like hernia checks, which require a doctor to examine a patient’s genitals.


    But faced with at least five more lawsuits from some 236 men alleging they too were molested by Strauss, OSU is now denying it ever “admitted” to any wrongdoing.


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    In a response to the lawsuits filed Tuesday in the federal court for the Southern District of Ohio by OSU’s attorney Michael H. Carpenter, the university says now it never admitted “Dr. Strauss committed 1,429 sexual assaults and 47 rapes.” The settlements that the university paid out were without admission of liability and were reached through mediation.

    It also denies covering up the abuses by Strauss, who died by suicide in 2005, and said it cannot corroborate the conclusions of the independent law firm picked to probe the scandal, Perkins Coie, which declared in its 2019 report that OSU coaches and administrators knew for two decades that Strauss was molesting male students but failed to stop him.

    The university issued an apology following the release of the report saying, “Our institution’s fundamental failure at the time to prevent this abuse was unacceptable — as were the inadequate efforts to thoroughly investigate complaints raised by students and staff members.”

    And as for the abuse claims of the hundreds of students whose lawsuits are outstanding against the university, “Ohio State states is it without knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as the truth of the remaining allegations.”

    In addition, OSU requested in the court papers that the former students suing the school pay the school’s legal fees.

    Strauss survivor Steve Snyder-Hill, one of the men suing OSU, called the university’s demand that they shoulder the legal costs “a slap in the face.” But what he said truly angers him is the suggestion in the court papers that some of their claims should be dismissed because they didn’t realize at the time they were being sexually abused.

    “That is an insult to the #MeToo movement and blatantly spits in the face of every person who experienced sexual assault,” Snyder-Hill said.

    Former OSU wrestler and Strauss victim Tom Lisy wasn’t surprised and said he “expected Ohio State to lie in their filing.”

    “They have done it throughout to protect their brand,” he said. “That’s why they covered up Strauss from the beginning.”

    Matt Reed, a former OSU gymnast suing the school, said he was “disgusted with the continuing lies and victimization” of Strauss victims by the university and by Ohio Attorney General David Yost, whose name appears at the bottom of the answer.

    “I expected Ohio State to continue the war against us,” Reed said. “I did not expect a complete denial.”

    Ohio State spokesman Ben Johnson declined to answer specific questions about the university’s response. “The court filings speak for themselves,” he said via email.

    Neither Carpenter nor Yost responded to requests for comment by phone and email from NBC News.

    Legal experts said it’s not uncommon for defendants to deny allegations in a complaint after a case against them moves forward. In this case, it was the Supreme Court that pushed the case forward in June by refusing OSU’s request to reconsider a lower court ruling that said former students should be allowed to sue the school for failing to protect them from Strauss in the 1980s and 1990s.

    But OSU’s fresh denials come more than four years after then-university president Michael V. Drake expressed, on behalf of OSU, “profound regret and sincere apologies” to the Strauss victims and praised “the strength and courage of (the) survivors.”

    “The difference between the answer and OSU’s public position is still striking,” said Ilann Maazel, one of the attorneys involved in the remaining lawsuits against the university.

    Tommy James, an attorney who has taken on big institutions like the Alabama Department of Youth Services, said he’s seen language like this before.

    “Even when defendants, such as Ohio State, have previously acknowledged a failure to prevent abuse, they frequently deny similar allegations involving the same perpetrators in subsequent lawsuits,” said James, who is not involved in any of the lawsuits against OSU.

    Rocky Ratliff, a former Ohio State wrestler and Strauss victim who is also a lawyer representing some of the plaintiffs, said OSU lacks “a moral compass and they continue to demean and belittle survivors.”

    “It’s disappointing that the school that we love and have bled for keeps fighting against its most loyal alumni while pretending to care,” added Will Knight, another former OSU wrestler who says he was abused by Strauss and is suing OSU.

    Ohio State has been playing defense since 2018 when whistleblower and former OSU wrestler Mike DiSabato came forward with allegations that Strauss molested him and many of his teammates during physicals.

    The scandal spread to Washington, D.C., when DiSabato and several other wrestlers accused their former assistant coach, powerful Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, of turning a blind eye to Strauss’ abuses.

    Jordan, who is named in several of the lawsuits filed against OSU, has repeatedly denied any knowledge of what Strauss was doing. And he continued to reiterate that story on Tuesday when Ratliff and three other former OSU wrestlers told NBC News that Jordan betrayed them and that he lacks the necessary “character” to be the next speaker of the House, a nomination Jordan secured Friday following a vote by House Republicans. But his future in getting the required number of votes on the floor remains uncertain.


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    Oh lower.
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      Yeah, OSU is pretty low to admit to the abuse one day, only to backtrack the next...
       
      anon_de_plume, Oct 15, 2023
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      Yep.
      Can't count on biden to do anything.
       
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