You need not worry. I take into consideration that you have a fetish that demands that you nitpick my posts even if it means it proves only that in the end it is you who is the dumbass as has been the case frequently. I only worry about how people I have some respect for feel about my thoughts this leaves you well outside the target area. BTW you will note it is you who usually comes to my posts, not the other way around. I have no interest in attempting communication with you.

 

Are these the same scientists that said Antarctica would be ice free by 2012?

Are those the "facts" and "scientists" you are relying on to back up your claims?%-)

 

Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling


Well, the results are in, and the winner is….Don Easterbrook. Easterbrook also spoke at the Heartland conference, with a presentation entitled “Are Forecasts of a 20-Year Cooling Trend Credible?” Watch that online and you will see how scientists are supposed to talk: cool, rational, logical analysis of the data, and full explanation of it. All Iever see from the global warming alarmists, by contrast, is political public relations, personal attacks, ad hominem arguments, and name calling, combined with admissions that they can’t defend their views in public debate.
Easterbrook shows that by 2010 the 2000 prediction of the IPCC was wrong by well over a degree, and the gap was widening. That’s a big miss for a forecast just 10 years away, when the same folks expect us to take seriously their predictions for 100 years in the future. Howard Hayden, Professor of Physics Emeritus at the University of Connecticut showed in his presentation at the conference that based on the historical record a doubling of CO2 could be expected to produce a 2 degree C temperature increase. Such a doubling would take most of this century, and the temperature impact of increased concentrations of CO2 declines logarithmically. You can see Hayden’s presentation online as well.
Because PDO cycles last 25 to 30 years, Easterbrook expects the cooling trend to continue for another 2 decades or so. Easterbrook, in fact, documents 40 such alternating periods of warming and cooling over the past 500 years, with similar data going back 15,000 years. He further expects the flipping of the ADO to add to the current downward trend.

But that is not all. We are also currently experiencing a surprisingly long period with very low sunspot activity. That is associated in the earth’s history with even lower, colder temperatures. The pattern was seen during a period known as the Dalton Minimum from 1790 to 1830, which saw temperature readings decline by 2 degrees in a 20 year period, and the noted Year Without A Summer in 1816 (which may have had other contributing short term causes).
Even worse was the period known as the Maunder Minimum from 1645 to 1715, which saw only about 50 sunspots during one 30 year period within the cycle, compared to a typical 40,000 to 50,000 sunspots during such periods in modern times. The Maunder Minimum coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, which the earth suffered from about 1350 to 1850. The Maunder Minimum saw sharply reduced agricultural output, and widespread human suffering, disease and premature death.
Such impacts of the sun on the earth’s climate were discussed at the conference by astrophysicist and geoscientist Willie Soon, Nir J. Shaviv, of the Racah Institute of Physics in the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and Sebastian Luning, co-author with leading German environmentalist Fritz Vahrenholt of The Cold Sun.
Easterbrook suggests that the outstanding question is only how cold this present cold cycle will get. Will it be modest like the cooling from the late 1940s to late 1970s? Or will the paucity of sunspots drive us all the way down to the Dalton Minimum, or even the Maunder Minimum? He says it is impossible to know now. But based on experience, he will probably know before the UN and its politicized IPCC.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...bal-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/2/

 

I guess Nature and his cohorts on this thread only watch Fox News and other right wing trash. See my original post for how many actual climate SCIENTISTS agree with you, DENIERS!!

ONE OUT OF OVER 9000

 

Bullshit!

You never hesitate to throw out some comment on my posts. Usually with crude attempts of sarcasm or else outright misunderstanding about whatever subject is being discussed.

The only threads I comment on of yours will have one or both of two ingredients.

1.) It is a subject that is interesting to me.

2.) It contains (usually in the title) ridiculous errors. Example: Being so lazy as to post the states name as New Hamshire not only in the title but in the body of the thread. Then you get pissed when I poke fun (In a nice way) at you.

 

I am going to just say, I read this.

 

Perfect, a typical RO'S response.

 

If you don't like my responses, don't post to me. I guarantee you'll not get any response from me.

 

Scientist you say? Do you even know what a scientist is???? You seem to be as confused about that as you are about this phony man made global warming crap. What you posted read "authors of peer-reviewed climate change articles rejected anthropogenic global warming".

So to you authors = climate scientist???? 9000 of them huh?%-)

They seem to be the "authors" of science fiction.....

 

You told me you don't respond to my posts.

But, then again that little tidbit was hardly an intelligent response, was it?

 

I shall reply to Tenguy's point here.

No, I do not buy into Al Gore's points - as such. He is only the messenger. And also from what I seen, something of an alarmist.

I am actually in the Bjørn Lomborg school when it comes to Climate Change. He argues that while the science unmistakably shows what is happening, that we humans are to blame, what we should be doing is putting our efforts into dealing with the results. This is real world stuff. It is achievable with our current level of technology and is relatively cheap.

Which is in contrast to what many Governments think is a remedy. A tax grab on a grand scale in an effort to 'turn the clock back.' In my view, not only is will this not work; it being unaffordable for most of the World, it is unrealistic.

We are still increasing our inefficient use of fossil fuels. This is not going to stop or even slow down in the foreseeable future. Try and tell the peoples of China, India and other developing Nations they can't have a car, electricity and all the mod-cons we take for granted.

What is indisputable, is that as a species, we must stop fouling our nest to the extent we have and are continuing to do. Because there will be real World consequences and they won't be pretty.

The Science is done and dusted. Evolution is true. The Planet is over 4 billion years old. Anthropogenic Climate Change is real. There is NO credible peer-reviewed Scientific Evidence saying otherwise.

That's all I ever say: "Show me the Evidence. From the Experts. Not from some bunch of halfwit Politicians and Business people worried about having their backhanders and profits threatened.

 

Oh, they don't even know where it is. Or the part it will play in accelerating sea level rise. Latest research from this year, which I saw published the other day, should be exciting more interest than it is so far.

 

Then we basically believe the same thing(s), with the possible exception of how much the human involvement has contributed.

My take for sometime has been that we will not reverse or even slow the climate change, and that we likely did not accelerate it at the rate that we are being told.

Asia is on a path to contribute more carbon to the atmosphere than the rest of the developed countries combined. What is in the atmosphere and what is projected to be added to it in the next few years, is likely to put us past the tipping point, if we aren't already there.

So if sea levels are going to rise to the point of inundating coastal cities, then maybe we should start thinking of how to either move them or to be like the Netherlands and dike them.

But besides the climate change, we are poisoning our water, air and arable land at an alarming rate, who is on the public bandwagon to stop this? Our world population is exploding, without the means to provide sustenance for those who are arriving, who is hollering about this?

We have tons of problems in the world, climate change is not the biggest of them.

 

If you're studying ignorance, then stop - you're at Honours level.

China is indeed the biggest polluter. Guess who is 2nd? With 6% of the World Population.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

This is not an US/Other Folks thing. This is a Human thing; all of us - everywhere.

 

And what exactly has the country's population to do with the amount of CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere?

A ton of CO2 is a ton of CO2, no matter how many people it took to produce it.

 

Don J. Easterbrook (born January 29, 1935, in Sumas, Washington) is a geology professor emeritus...

Do you understand the concept of relative expert?

 

We're not coming up FROM the dip - we're heading INTO it.

 

Run for your life! The sky is falling, the sky is falling! :excited:

 

None, I agree. But Natureboy suggested it was the Third World doing the major dirty and suggested it could not be anything to do with US as it only has 6% of the World's population.

I am merely pointing out that the facts are, that even with only 6%, America is the 2nd biggest pollutor.

 

No I never said anything like that liar....